Best MBR for $1500

Pred · 04-20-2006, 10:48 AM

My wifes uncle wants to buy my AR, and my brother-in-law wants to buy my G3. In 2 months theres a huge gunshow(National Gun Day), so I've got some research to do. If I sell both of these guns, I'll easily have $1500 to throw at a rifle, but the question is what should I buy. The three main rifles that come to mind are the M-14/M1A, HK91/G3/Cetme, and the FAL. My guess is the FAL is the least accurate of the three, but I'd say all three are reliable. I've read the M-14's can have problems with headspacing, especially the Polytechs. I also know the FAL's are long and heavy, and the G3's don't have the best trigger in the world. SO, if everyone had $1500 to spend on a MBR, what would they buy and why? This can include anything, the Romak-3, whatever you would buy.

silentknight · 04-20-2006, 11:49 AM

An M1 gets my vote. As for they why, I've always had a thing fo rthe M1. Also you could join the Garand collecters association to get one through the CMP for about $500

Pred · 04-20-2006, 12:11 PM

Before SKS says it, theres also the AR-10. I have a feeling this thread will become my public think tank on this subject LOL.

silentknight · 04-20-2006, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pred

I have a feeling this thread will become my public think tank on this subject LOL.

Don't worry about it, thats what it here for.

Pred · 04-20-2006, 12:19 PM

So far I've got:

M-14/M1A
HK91/G3/Cetme
FAL
Romak-3
AR-10

All of these rifles will work, and all could be had for $1500 or less. Now comes the hard part LOL

Beer Forever · 04-20-2006, 12:19 PM

AR-10, who me? Why would you want to get a good affdordable, reliable, accurate, light, and tough rifle. THat would make absolutley make no sense.

Pred · 04-20-2006, 12:32 PM

The M-14 seems to have headspacing issues. Most everyone that gets the Polytech has to spend about $300 on a bolt job, which puts it at about the same price as a Springfield. The gun is very accurate out to 1000 yards. A good scope on it and 600-700 yard shots are easy, but it's also the most expensive of the group. The HK/G3/Cetme design has been around along time too, and they are also very accurate, but with the range of a M-14? Their probably the cheapest of the group, with $800-$900 getting you a nice JLD PTR 91, or about $600 getting you a nice Century made gun. Scoping one without a build in rail is expensive though. The FAL is rugged, but not as accurate(I think) as the rest. It's also very long and very heavy, kindof weird to maneuver with(from what I've read). This gun also carries a price tag upwards of $1000. From what I've seen most don't have a built in scope rail, so again it will take some money. The Romak-3 on the other hand has the range, cheap ammo(like the .308), and scoping is not a problem. It's also one of those rifles people will stop to look at when at the range. These should be had(if you can find them) for about $800. However one draw back is the scope that comes with it is only a 4x or 6x, so if you want a higher power scope you have to buy the new mount(which isn't bad but still) and another scope. To me the AR-10 seems a little high for what it is. It carries a price tag an M-14, and I don't know what it's capable of compared to the others. While alot of people are starting to make parts for them, they are still harder to find and cost more then most. Besides the Romak all the rifles accept a 20 round mag, and I'm thinking reliability is not an issue with any of them. I know the M-14, G3, and FAL will work in just about any weather condition. I think Israel, however, switched from the FAL because the gun didn't like sand to well. I'm guessing most of these guns dont, but then again I don't live in the desert so whats it matter.

Beer Forever · 04-20-2006, 12:38 PM

If it was me I would already have an AR-10. Just hold each of them and see what suits you best. THe M1 is big, heavy, and bulky. THat is why they don't them anymore. Look on atlanticfirearms.com they have all of those rilfes in stock with some good summaries.

Also, you can hit they 700 to 800 yard shots with a good 20' AR-10 and it will give you an excuse to get an E O Tech

Pred · 04-20-2006, 12:59 PM

The only problems with the AR-10, as I said, is that it's the newest rifle of the bunch. It's never been used in combat(that I know of, I could be wrong), and the price tag is almost that of a M-14, which has been used in combat, not to mention every competition known to man. AR-10 parts are very expensive, and still a little difficult to find(Armalite and DPMS are the only two that come to mind). You know the M-14 can hit something at 1000 yards, can the AR-10? With the same accuracy as an M-14?

Beer Forever · 04-20-2006, 01:01 PM

I see your point. The M1 is going to be heavy. Are you going to get the SOCOM? Maybe you can get an awsome Bulgarian AK and a different .308

Pred · 04-20-2006, 01:07 PM

The M-14 and AR-10 will soak up most of the money, while the FAL will still take a good chunk of it. That leaves me with the Romak-3 and the G3 platform. Both are going to run about the same price, while I think range, and maybe accuracy? will go to the Romak-3. However I would think the G3 would make more sence in a combat role.

Beer Forever · 04-20-2006, 01:11 PM

Do you want to part with your SKS?

Pred · 04-20-2006, 01:14 PM

Hmm, never thought of it, maybe. I actually take back what I wrote about the edge going to the Romak-3. I also just read that the PTR-91's are just about as accurate as the M-14s at half the price.

Beer Forever · 04-20-2006, 01:48 PM

I was given an interesting offer earlier. I was asked if I wanted to trade my WASR-10 and my Mossberg 500 for one new Bulgarian or a Yugo AK-47. What do you think I should do?????

silentknight · 04-20-2006, 02:00 PM

Sounds like a good deal sks, you can always pick up another mossberg cheap later on.

Pred · 04-20-2006, 02:08 PM

Hey hey hey hey... no thread stealing SKS :nod:

Beer Forever · 04-20-2006, 02:11 PM

Oh come on. You weren't using it.

Pred · 04-20-2006, 02:20 PM

Hmm, the more I read the more confused I get about what rifle to buy.

Beer Forever · 04-20-2006, 02:23 PM

Bulgarian AK with a sniper Dragunov scope. then you have enough left over to buy a good XD-40 or Sig Sauer .357

Pred · 04-20-2006, 02:29 PM

Yeah, while thats something I want, it's not what I need. But, then again I might not sell any of them and just go buy another AK, I dont know.

04-20-2006, 10:48 AM	#1
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Best MBR for $1500 My wifes uncle wants to buy my AR, and my brother-in-law wants to buy my G3. In 2 months theres a huge gunshow(National Gun Day), so I've got some research to do. If I sell both of these guns, I'll easily have $1500 to throw at a rifle, but the question is what should I buy. The three main rifles that come to mind are the M-14/M1A, HK91/G3/Cetme, and the FAL. My guess is the FAL is the least accurate of the three, but I'd say all three are reliable. I've read the M-14's can have problems with headspacing, especially the Polytechs. I also know the FAL's are long and heavy, and the G3's don't have the best trigger in the world. SO, if everyone had $1500 to spend on a MBR, what would they buy and why? This can include anything, the Romak-3, whatever you would buy.

04-20-2006, 11:49 AM	#2
silentknight Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,125 Images: 3	An M1 gets my vote. As for they why, I've always had a thing fo rthe M1. Also you could join the Garand collecters association to get one through the CMP for about $500 __________________ Sic Vis Pacem Parabellum

04-20-2006, 12:19 PM	#6
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	AR-10, who me? Why would you want to get a good affdordable, reliable, accurate, light, and tough rifle. THat would make absolutley make no sense. __________________ Paramedic sks forever Last edited by Beer Forever; 04-20-2006 at 12:23 PM.

04-20-2006, 12:38 PM	#8
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	If it was me I would already have an AR-10. Just hold each of them and see what suits you best. THe M1 is big, heavy, and bulky. THat is why they don't them anymore. Look on atlanticfirearms.com they have all of those rilfes in stock with some good summaries. Also, you can hit they 700 to 800 yard shots with a good 20' AR-10 and it will give you an excuse to get an E O Tech __________________ Paramedic sks forever

04-20-2006, 01:01 PM	#10
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	I see your point. The M1 is going to be heavy. Are you going to get the SOCOM? Maybe you can get an awsome Bulgarian AK and a different .308 __________________ Paramedic sks forever

04-20-2006, 12:11 PM	#3
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Before SKS says it, theres also the AR-10. I have a feeling this thread will become my public think tank on this subject LOL.

04-20-2006, 12:32 PM	#7
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	The M-14 seems to have headspacing issues. Most everyone that gets the Polytech has to spend about $300 on a bolt job, which puts it at about the same price as a Springfield. The gun is very accurate out to 1000 yards. A good scope on it and 600-700 yard shots are easy, but it's also the most expensive of the group. The HK/G3/Cetme design has been around along time too, and they are also very accurate, but with the range of a M-14? Their probably the cheapest of the group, with $800-$900 getting you a nice JLD PTR 91, or about $600 getting you a nice Century made gun. Scoping one without a build in rail is expensive though. The FAL is rugged, but not as accurate(I think) as the rest. It's also very long and very heavy, kindof weird to maneuver with(from what I've read). This gun also carries a price tag upwards of $1000. From what I've seen most don't have a built in scope rail, so again it will take some money. The Romak-3 on the other hand has the range, cheap ammo(like the .308), and scoping is not a problem. It's also one of those rifles people will stop to look at when at the range. These should be had(if you can find them) for about $800. However one draw back is the scope that comes with it is only a 4x or 6x, so if you want a higher power scope you have to buy the new mount(which isn't bad but still) and another scope. To me the AR-10 seems a little high for what it is. It carries a price tag an M-14, and I don't know what it's capable of compared to the others. While alot of people are starting to make parts for them, they are still harder to find and cost more then most. Besides the Romak all the rifles accept a 20 round mag, and I'm thinking reliability is not an issue with any of them. I know the M-14, G3, and FAL will work in just about any weather condition. I think Israel, however, switched from the FAL because the gun didn't like sand to well. I'm guessing most of these guns dont, but then again I don't live in the desert so whats it matter.

04-20-2006, 12:59 PM	#9
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	The only problems with the AR-10, as I said, is that it's the newest rifle of the bunch. It's never been used in combat(that I know of, I could be wrong), and the price tag is almost that of a M-14, which has been used in combat, not to mention every competition known to man. AR-10 parts are very expensive, and still a little difficult to find(Armalite and DPMS are the only two that come to mind). You know the M-14 can hit something at 1000 yards, can the AR-10? With the same accuracy as an M-14?

04-20-2006, 01:07 PM	#11
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	The M-14 and AR-10 will soak up most of the money, while the FAL will still take a good chunk of it. That leaves me with the Romak-3 and the G3 platform. Both are going to run about the same price, while I think range, and maybe accuracy? will go to the Romak-3. However I would think the G3 would make more sence in a combat role.

04-20-2006, 01:11 PM	#12
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	Do you want to part with your SKS? __________________ Paramedic sks forever

04-20-2006, 01:14 PM	#13
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Hmm, never thought of it, maybe. I actually take back what I wrote about the edge going to the Romak-3. I also just read that the PTR-91's are just about as accurate as the M-14s at half the price.

04-20-2006, 01:48 PM	#14
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	I was given an interesting offer earlier. I was asked if I wanted to trade my WASR-10 and my Mossberg 500 for one new Bulgarian or a Yugo AK-47. What do you think I should do????? __________________ Paramedic sks forever Last edited by Beer Forever; 04-20-2006 at 01:55 PM.

04-20-2006, 02:00 PM	#15
silentknight Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,125 Images: 3	Sounds like a good deal sks, you can always pick up another mossberg cheap later on. __________________ Sic Vis Pacem Parabellum

04-20-2006, 02:08 PM	#16
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Hey hey hey hey... no thread stealing SKS :nod:

04-20-2006, 02:11 PM	#17
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	Oh come on. You weren't using it. __________________ Paramedic sks forever

04-20-2006, 02:20 PM	#18
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Hmm, the more I read the more confused I get about what rifle to buy.

04-20-2006, 02:23 PM	#19
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	Bulgarian AK with a sniper Dragunov scope. then you have enough left over to buy a good XD-40 or Sig Sauer .357 __________________ Paramedic sks forever

04-20-2006, 02:29 PM	#20
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Yeah, while thats something I want, it's not what I need. But, then again I might not sell any of them and just go buy another AK, I dont know.