[Sniper[MI]]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Mooseman684

Now you are asking for a bit Much ! Maybe a Savage Model 110 FP...

That's my bet, a nice Savage in 7mm Mag just for fun........:cheer:

Not necesarily the 110 FP though. My wood stocked Savage hunting rifle can reach that far.... It is spot on accurate at 200 yds. I shot that far all the time at the range.........

[Mooseman684]

500 Dollars just covered My 10X Super Sniper Scope,Killflash cover and Mildot Master Range Chart ! ( Rifle NOT included !):jaw:

[gonzo454]

Sniper rifle … what a world we live in where this could be thought of as a derogatory term, I am not certain but I THINK that a sniper is one of 3 things…

An individual involved in military operations that save the lives of numerous service men and women by executing well placed rounds in such a manner as to disrupt opposing leadership, or instill harmful physiological boundaries in the minds of the opposition in order to effect a battlefield shift of power, or hold said battle field power.

An individual involved in civilian police operations who saves the lives of civilians by a closely related concept to the one outlined above.

An individual who thinks highly of the previous two individuals and makes an attempt to pay homage, or feel some kinship with said individuals by participation in a practice of long distance shooting.

By the way if you go hunting and make shots up to 6 or 700 yards killing an animal, does that then make you a “Sniper” simply because you stalked and shot a live target.

The word Sniper has been adopted to reflect personnel of great skill, who are capable of excellence in stealth, deductive reasoning, long distance shooting and team work, but that is not the only relevant meaning.

To my mind a rifle can easily be considered a sniper rifle with out being in the hands of one skilled enough to use it. Consider this…is a half minute rifle not a half minute rifle simply because my 13 year old son is shooting it, and does not have the skill to shoot that well… I say the rifle is what it is in the case in question “a half minute rifle”. So if a rifle optics combination is capable of keeping 5 inch groups at 1000 yds that rifle is a Sniper rifle whether my 13 year old son can produce those numbers or not.

Additionally I would not call a high paid hit man a Sniper…simply a murderer, to do otherwise is an insult to Snipers of all the worlds military and police organizations who take their profession very seriously, and see it as a life saving tool.

[Triplesixkoe]

Quote:       Originally Posted by SPOCAHP ANAR

Are you currently employed in the assasination business? Call me a stickler for details but.... it gripes me to hear people call a rifle with a scope a sniper rifle. If the your intention is to become a high paying hitman then the term fits the description. Just as many incorrectly call semi autos ASSAULT Rifles the same goes for Scoped Rifles. The word "Sniper" is an adjective in which it is used to describe the noun "Rifle". A highly crafted precision rifle with premium optics is just that; a highly crafted precision rifle with premium optics. Now if you are looking for something that was designed to be a sniper rifle and/or was/is used as one then the descriptor "Sniper' would fit.

You say TOM-A-TO...I Say TOM-AH-TO


Oh and by the way BHEISER....I think a good mauser with a good scope along with some camo tape would be your best, most affordable bet for what you said you are looking for.

[Pred]

Yeah, I'd try to find a nice 8mm Mauser(try to stay away from the German ones cause of the price). Hey, what about those K-31's? Arn't those supposed to be REALLY accurate, cause there only like $120-$130.

[Dale]

Quote:       Originally Posted by bheiser

i have an enfield, i just want something that looks mean and is accurate

Who you trying to scare or impress?

I'm with Pha on this one....and, btw, isn't Maryland where Malvo did his sniping from the trunk of a car?

A large ego will get you in trouble faster than lack of common sense.

I'd better not say any more on this subject.

[gonzo454]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Dale

and, btw, isn't Maryland where Malvo did his sniping from the trunk of a car?

Well if you call random acts of violence perpetrated against non-combatants at 100 yards or less sniping…but I just think it is where Malvo committed murder and the “news” incorrectly labeled a coward, mistakenly calling him a Sniper. However I could be mistaken…again as with most of my posts just an opinion.

This line of conversation does raise a question…say that a rifle could be (for those who do not subscribe to my ideology just play along if you choose) determined to be a Sniper rifle…What would be the requirements, and “qualifications” that you would need to see in order to quantify that claim, and why, and what are your “limits” for acceptable caliber choice?

[SPOCAHP ANAR]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Triplesixkoe

You say TOM-A-TO...I Say TOM-AH-TO

Don't you mean sniper tomato?

Quote:       Originally Posted by gonzo454

This line of conversation does raise a question…say that a rifle could be (for those who do not subscribe to my ideology just play along if you choose) determined to be a Sniper rifle…What would be the requirements, and “qualifications” that you would need to see in order to quantify that claim, and why, and what are your “limits” for acceptable caliber choice?

Most hunting rifles bought at wally world with a scope could fit the bill as a sniper rifle; meeting the needs, range and ballistics capability. A rifle used to hunt deer is not a sniper rifle. But pop a few cops from an apartment window and it becomes one.

snip·er ( P )
n.
A skilled military shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place.
One who shoots at other people from a concealed place.

[Oxford]

bheisera...What is the intended target for the sniper rifle you've described?

[Gio]

A good long range rifle would probably be anything 30 caliber or over. .223 is also good. But if it is a Sniper Rifle obviously you want to kill something. Hopefully not People. So .30 caliber would work. Maybe -06 or 8mm. My K98 is almost perfect condition and it was 150 off of impact guns. + shipping and the dealers fee.

[Mooseman684]

Guys...Check out this link and watch the full Intro !
http://www.snipersparadise.com/
Rich

[jellydonut]

Quote:       Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3

Now defending our nation, homes, and families against all foes foreign and domestic is of course a priority. But if you're going to get enough practice with your rifle to be any good defending your country, you're going to have to use it recreationally. Unless you're in a militia (beyond being a privately armed American) you probably won't be learning any "sniping" techniques, just the regular tried and true shooting of targets and game animals.

You make being in a militia sound like a bad thing.. per the Constitution, every able-bodied man of 18yrs old and older is automatically in the militia, correct? So, by default, everyone SHOULD know sniping techniques. I'm with Gonzo.

[Mooseman684]

I Hunt Snipe ...so I guess I am a "Sniper" !
Rich

[gonzo454]

Well in my opinion the deal falls like this…

Snipers are the pinnacle of what they do…so too then the rifle they use should be the pinnacle of what it does, no mere wally world off the shelf weapon in any caliber can be called a sniper rifle. They may fire sniper quality calibers, but they can not be called sniper rifles until you know more about the rifle…the individual rifle…very few rifles are made to the standards of a sniper rifle straight out of the gate. The HK PSG-1 is one rifle I can think of readily that come out of the box as a Sniper rifle, and it is guaranteed to shoot .5 MOA or less OUT OF THE BOX. You see boys and girls the accuracy of the rifle is in question when you are looking for a precision tool. Some rifles will never be Sniper rifles…even in the hands of a trained sniper, and other rifles will be sniper rifles and never reach the hands of a professional…if a sniper had a 2 minute rifle, as most of you know, he would have a 20 inch Danger zone at 1000 yards, and that is unacceptable odds for a surgeon. On the other hand if a sniper had a half minute rifle that is a 5 inch danger zone at 1000 yards, that COULD be a head shot every time.
Half a minute is where a rifle first becomes acceptable for “sniper” quality, and I have personally see quarter minute rifles…that is 2 and one half inch groups at 1000 yards, definitely head shots every time.

It is my hope to always have a rife that shoots better than I do…that way I can always improve…but once you reach mechanical limits, that’s it, game over, it will increase no more…

[SPOCAHP ANAR]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Mooseman684

I Hunt Snipe ...so I guess I am a "Sniper" ! Rich

Me Too, but I never seem to find any. The guys always tell me to wait over in the bushes and they will flush one out for me, but I never catch him...... must be my aftershave!

[gonzo454]

So where can snipe be hunted…I do not know if there are any in Texas…but I would like to know where the closes available snipe are.

[Beer Forever]

If I give you this link don't buy the gun and perch up in a watchtower now.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976678721.htm

[Dale]

Quote:       Originally Posted by gonzo454

So where can snipe be hunted…I do not know if there are any in Texas…but I would like to know where the closes available snipe are.

Well, England has Snipe (hence the name Sniper for those who shot the bird for the aristocrats) so it makes sense they would've imported them into the USA.


So, there out there guys...keep looking. He he he he.

[gonzo454]

I was under the impression that the “original” snipe was an African native that was exploited during Brit occupation…that is simply my idea of how I remember the situation.

[Beer Forever]

So, snipe is some sort of bird?