What .308 semi-auto rifle do you like, want, or have.

Beer Forever · 08-19-2006, 04:36 PM

I was going to get an AR-10 with the T-6 stock because of the soft recoil, but after checking out the selection Springfield M1As I don't know which one to get. Money is a factor.

FutureMarine · 08-19-2006, 04:56 PM

Saiga .308's are always a good choice. id love to have one, but they are banned by name(thanks BRG3 for the info

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Beer Forever · 08-19-2006, 05:37 PM

SOmething a little more high end than a SAIGA.

heilung · 08-19-2006, 05:47 PM

FN FAL s with a good receiver such as Imbel and good parts are great shooters, 3" groups at 100 yds.. 95 Armies around the world couldnt be wrong. Some still have them.

FutureMarine · 08-19-2006, 05:53 PM

okay then i suggest my favorite rifle, the M1a/M14

Pred · 08-19-2006, 06:38 PM

Well, here is what you can pick from. M1A, Cetme/G3, JLD PTR 91, FAL, Saiga, and a AR-10(I might have left one or two out, but that should about cover it). Unless your wanting to spend over $750 your choices are the Cetme/G3 and a Saiga. Maybe, just maybe you'll find a nice FAL for less then that, but probably not, most of them are around $800. Not trying to put down Heilung's FAL's, but 3" groups and I'd throw that rifle in the sea, especially if I spend $800+. My G3, at half the price, will get 1"-1.5" groups and easily hit any plate we have at the range(range goes out to 300yds). Then you have your M1A's, PTR's and AR-10's in the $1000 and up club. A Saiga is a good low budget gun. It's accuracy is decent, but the 8-round mags and having to, if your not skilled, risk destorying the gun for a pistol grip setup is a major draw back. Sure you can send it off, but thats still $300. Now your at $600 with the gun, might as well spend the same money for a good Cetme/G3. I just looked at Centerfire and they have metric FAL's for $650, but I'm thinking those are guns put together by Century, which is a hit or miss deal. I don't know much about them, but the .458 SOCOM uppers will work with standard AR lowers and mags.

Big Dog · 08-20-2006, 10:48 AM

I have the CETME and I love it. But, on my "want to get" list is the M1A, if and when I get the bucks together.

ash · 08-20-2006, 12:18 PM

Took my CETME to the range the other day after a tear down and good cleaning. And with 150 gr FMJ handloads got 6" groups with open sights.
More practice needed to be sure but not bad out of a $200 gun.

Beer Forever · 08-20-2006, 12:20 PM

THe only thing keeping me away from the G3, FAL, or CETME is the weight and bulk. I do a little hunting and I would get tired of luging one of those around. I am thouroughly impressed with them though especially the accuracey. :uzi:

I think the M1A Scout is what I need.

Pred · 08-20-2006, 01:31 PM

Well, weight should not be a factor. The rifle in your picture will weigh 9.3lbs without a scope. A Cetme = 9.68lbs, FAL = 9.79lbs, and G3 = 9.9lbs.

utahvarminter · 08-20-2006, 03:25 PM

My dad's got that M1A scout in Synthetic. That's a sweet rifle, it's lighter, and is more comfortable (balanced) than any FAL/G3 (which are much more expensive) I've held. I pegged a bush the size of a bicycle at 300yds, standing, with iron sights, so it's gotta be accurate. I'd definitely go with an M1A. The only issue is magazines; you have to be carefull the manufacturer you get em from, and they're not cheap, unlike FAL Mags. If you like the AR-10 design, you might want to try a Bushmaster BAR-10. They take unmodified FAL mags, and you can get one around the same price used as an M1A.

Pred · 08-20-2006, 03:34 PM

Wait, are you saying G3's and FAL's are more expensive then M1A's?

Beer Forever · 08-20-2006, 05:27 PM

I know that the M1A Scout is about $1300 and I don't know of many other .308 that are more costly aside from the high end bolts and AR-10.

Pred · 08-20-2006, 05:46 PM

An AR-10 will be about the same price as a M1A, as you said. But those JLD's are right there with em. It would be hard to find a really good FAL for under $800.

FutureMarine · 08-20-2006, 07:07 PM

i like that scout, SKS. but in your state cant you get the Flash hider, or would you rather go with the muzzel brake?

BattleRifleG3 · 08-21-2006, 08:52 AM

Years ago an AR-10 was my dream rifle but I didn't have the guts to plunk down a grand (and yes they had them for a grand back then.)

If money weren't an issue, I'd go with a SIG 540 (if I got the model right), that or a Galil. Or maybe an HAC-7.

For ones I have, I absolutely love the Saiga-308, and my G3 is pretty nice too. The G3 had some problems that I eventually fixed. The Saiga-308 had no problems but I felt the need to fix it anyway, so now it takes modified G3 mags.

gibsonlp24 · 08-23-2006, 04:19 PM

i love my winchester model 100...they are sort of hard to find(at least where i am), but they are worth the money. i have never had a problem with mine. its a 1962, the first model year and it works like its brand new.:full:

Mooseman684 · 08-24-2006, 02:08 AM

SkSForever, I have the M1A Springfield, The CETME and the FN-FAL STG58,
I love all 3 of them as far as firepower goes, but I will rank the M1A as the best as it is a National Match rifle and I put the action in a Fiberglass stock and it just feels GOOD !!! My friend Bill has 3 M1A's and an FN-FAL and he Likes the FAL the best due to its fine accuracy with a Steyr Hammer forged Barrel. Good luck on whatever you choose!
Rich

utahvarminter · 08-24-2006, 06:23 PM

My dad picked up an M1A for 900 used, I saw a DSA SA-58 used - 1100. I'm talking newly manufactured.

BattleRifleG3 · 08-25-2006, 08:28 AM

Once in a while someone does price-gouge and another gets a good deal. That FAL I believe would be US made and extremely high quality.

08-19-2006, 04:36 PM	#1
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	What .308 semi-auto rifle do you like, want, or have. I was going to get an AR-10 with the T-6 stock because of the soft recoil, but after checking out the selection Springfield M1As I don't know which one to get. Money is a factor.

08-19-2006, 04:56 PM	#2
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946	Saiga .308's are always a good choice. id love to have one, but they are banned by name(thanks BRG3 for the info ) __________________ Semper Fi

08-19-2006, 05:47 PM	#4
heilung Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 225	Fn Fal FN FAL s with a good receiver such as Imbel and good parts are great shooters, 3" groups at 100 yds.. 95 Armies around the world couldnt be wrong. Some still have them.

08-19-2006, 05:53 PM	#5
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946	okay then i suggest my favorite rifle, the M1a/M14 __________________ Semper Fi

08-20-2006, 10:48 AM	#7
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,214	I have the CETME and I love it. But, on my "want to get" list is the M1A, if and when I get the bucks together. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

08-19-2006, 05:37 PM	#3
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	SOmething a little more high end than a SAIGA.

08-19-2006, 06:38 PM	#6
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Well, here is what you can pick from. M1A, Cetme/G3, JLD PTR 91, FAL, Saiga, and a AR-10(I might have left one or two out, but that should about cover it). Unless your wanting to spend over $750 your choices are the Cetme/G3 and a Saiga. Maybe, just maybe you'll find a nice FAL for less then that, but probably not, most of them are around $800. Not trying to put down Heilung's FAL's, but 3" groups and I'd throw that rifle in the sea, especially if I spend $800+. My G3, at half the price, will get 1"-1.5" groups and easily hit any plate we have at the range(range goes out to 300yds). Then you have your M1A's, PTR's and AR-10's in the $1000 and up club. A Saiga is a good low budget gun. It's accuracy is decent, but the 8-round mags and having to, if your not skilled, risk destorying the gun for a pistol grip setup is a major draw back. Sure you can send it off, but thats still $300. Now your at $600 with the gun, might as well spend the same money for a good Cetme/G3. I just looked at Centerfire and they have metric FAL's for $650, but I'm thinking those are guns put together by Century, which is a hit or miss deal. I don't know much about them, but the .458 SOCOM uppers will work with standard AR lowers and mags.

08-20-2006, 12:18 PM	#8
ash Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 934 Images: 3	Took my CETME to the range the other day after a tear down and good cleaning. And with 150 gr FMJ handloads got 6" groups with open sights. More practice needed to be sure but not bad out of a $200 gun.

08-20-2006, 12:20 PM	#9
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	THe only thing keeping me away from the G3, FAL, or CETME is the weight and bulk. I do a little hunting and I would get tired of luging one of those around. I am thouroughly impressed with them though especially the accuracey. :uzi: I think the M1A Scout is what I need.

08-20-2006, 01:31 PM	#10
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Well, weight should not be a factor. The rifle in your picture will weigh 9.3lbs without a scope. A Cetme = 9.68lbs, FAL = 9.79lbs, and G3 = 9.9lbs.

08-20-2006, 03:25 PM	#11
utahvarminter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 487	My dad's got that M1A scout in Synthetic. That's a sweet rifle, it's lighter, and is more comfortable (balanced) than any FAL/G3 (which are much more expensive) I've held. I pegged a bush the size of a bicycle at 300yds, standing, with iron sights, so it's gotta be accurate. I'd definitely go with an M1A. The only issue is magazines; you have to be carefull the manufacturer you get em from, and they're not cheap, unlike FAL Mags. If you like the AR-10 design, you might want to try a Bushmaster BAR-10. They take unmodified FAL mags, and you can get one around the same price used as an M1A. __________________ My Photo Album

08-20-2006, 03:34 PM	#12
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Wait, are you saying G3's and FAL's are more expensive then M1A's?

08-20-2006, 05:27 PM	#13
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	I know that the M1A Scout is about $1300 and I don't know of many other .308 that are more costly aside from the high end bolts and AR-10.

08-20-2006, 05:46 PM	#14
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	An AR-10 will be about the same price as a M1A, as you said. But those JLD's are right there with em. It would be hard to find a really good FAL for under $800.

08-20-2006, 07:07 PM	#15
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946	i like that scout, SKS. but in your state cant you get the Flash hider, or would you rather go with the muzzel brake? __________________ Semper Fi

08-21-2006, 08:52 AM	#16
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Years ago an AR-10 was my dream rifle but I didn't have the guts to plunk down a grand (and yes they had them for a grand back then.) If money weren't an issue, I'd go with a SIG 540 (if I got the model right), that or a Galil. Or maybe an HAC-7. For ones I have, I absolutely love the Saiga-308, and my G3 is pretty nice too. The G3 had some problems that I eventually fixed. The Saiga-308 had no problems but I felt the need to fix it anyway, so now it takes modified G3 mags. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

08-23-2006, 04:19 PM	#17
gibsonlp24 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11	i love my winchester model 100...they are sort of hard to find(at least where i am), but they are worth the money. i have never had a problem with mine. its a 1962, the first model year and it works like its brand new.:full:

08-24-2006, 02:08 AM	#18
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,668 Images: 2	SkSForever, I have the M1A Springfield, The CETME and the FN-FAL STG58, I love all 3 of them as far as firepower goes, but I will rank the M1A as the best as it is a National Match rifle and I put the action in a Fiberglass stock and it just feels GOOD !!! My friend Bill has 3 M1A's and an FN-FAL and he Likes the FAL the best due to its fine accuracy with a Steyr Hammer forged Barrel. Good luck on whatever you choose! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

08-24-2006, 06:23 PM	#19
utahvarminter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 487	My dad picked up an M1A for 900 used, I saw a DSA SA-58 used - 1100. I'm talking newly manufactured. __________________ My Photo Album

08-25-2006, 08:28 AM	#20
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Once in a while someone does price-gouge and another gets a good deal. That FAL I believe would be US made and extremely high quality. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf