My Next rifle. - Page 2

Johnny_Revolver · 03-20-2007, 04:18 PM

Lefty: BVSS or LVP? My assumption is the BVSS ( lol, Beavus ) is more the dedicated Varminter / perhaps bench rester with its more pronounced curve to the pistol grip, the LVP strikes me as being the slightly better carry and shoot with out a rest style rifle.

That LVP is a handsome devil.. I`m a month short of signing up, so i`ll do some research. I can ( if there are any left at this particular shop ) do a great deal on a BVSS, $200 less than elsewhere. But, I want the better rifle for me, more than a saving.

myarmor · 03-20-2007, 04:25 PM

If your looking for a Savage, this model 12 F/TR Precision Target Rifle is raising my eyebrows:
Savage Arms New 2006 Products

Scroll down and look. It's awesome and sporting a 30" barrel and the new Target Accu-Trigger adjustable down to 6oz

lefty o · 03-20-2007, 04:25 PM

all the heavy barreled varmint rifles are supposed to adjust down to 1.5#'s. i am not 100% positive about the lvp. id' think the BVSS would run right around 10 pounds. mine definately is not carry friendly with added weight in the stock, the muzzle brake, and the very heavy scope- unloaded 15#'s.

myarmor · 03-20-2007, 04:31 PM

The new Target Accu-Trigger action is slightly redesigned and looks like they will be selling it outright for those looking to mainly build. Check it out on their new list I posted. It's almost all the way down the page. And a nice addition chambering for the 6.5-284 Norma. Though I would be concerned with wearing out a button rifled barrel with such a round.. Still cool though.

Midas · 03-20-2007, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myarmor

The new Target Accu-Trigger action is slightly redesigned and looks like they will be selling it outright for those looking to mainly build. Check it out on their new list I posted. It's almost all the way down the page. And a nice addition chambering for the 6.5-284 Norma. Though I would be concerned with wearing out a button rifled barrel with such a round.. Still cool though.

Thats odd, I've never heard of a button rifle barrel having any inherent weaknesses when it comes to barrel life

BattleRifleG3 · 03-20-2007, 05:09 PM

I'm looking into a Remington 700 SPS Varmint.

lefty o · 03-21-2007, 11:10 AM

button rifled, cut rifled- makes no difference to longevity. heat and poor cleaning methods kill barrels.

Midas · 03-21-2007, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lefty o

button rifled, cut rifled- makes no difference to longevity. heat and poor cleaning methods kill barrels.

Thats what I thought

myarmor · 03-21-2007, 06:59 PM

I would just be concerned about a factory Savage barrel running a cartridge that has been shown to have short life. Not trashing Savages barrels, just a personal concern.
6.5-284 Cartridge Guide

Sorry if I highjacked the thread. That wasn't my intention.

ArkansasHunter · 03-21-2007, 07:06 PM

My next rifle is going to be a Browning BLR pistol grip leveraction in 358 caliber. I have got to have one !
Anybody know where I can put one on layaway and pay it out for 12 months ? ltms

lefty o · 03-21-2007, 07:21 PM

alright, most of these overbore cartridges pretty much kill barrels at 1000-1500rnds. thats not a surprise, but my question is why do you think that a barrel manufactured by savage is going to go south any faster? trust me im not the #1 savage fan, but other than being a little rough, there barrel life has always been fine.

Midas · 03-21-2007, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lefty o

alright, most of these overbore cartridges pretty much kill barrels at 1000-1500rnds. thats not a surprise, but my question is why do you think that a barrel manufactured by savage is going to go south any faster? trust me im not the #1 savage fan, but other than being a little rough, there barrel life has always been fine.

I think its just part of the odd negativities that people associate with Savage

lefty o · 03-21-2007, 07:40 PM

could be. i hate the junkutrigger and cheap plastic stocks, so i guess its conceivable people may not care for the barrels.

Midas · 03-21-2007, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lefty o

could be. i hate the junkutrigger and cheap plastic stocks, so i guess its conceivable people may not care for the barrels.

Precisely

Johnny_Revolver · 03-21-2007, 08:48 PM

Way to whore up my thread, you pack of swine

lefty o · 03-21-2007, 09:07 PM

Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Johnny_Revolver · 03-21-2007, 09:08 PM

Midas · 03-21-2007, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny_Revolver

Way to whore up my thread, you pack of swine

Anytime, ole' buddy

BattleRifleG3 · 03-22-2007, 09:31 AM

In Australia, do you have the same selection of Remington, Savage, Weatherby, CZ, Ruger, and such? Remingtons here can sometimes be had at great prices, as they often flood the market, but perhaps in the land down under availability is different.

Johnny_Revolver · 03-22-2007, 03:27 PM

BRG, we have a fairly good range for the size of the market we have. That`s the key element, its a much smaller market as you can well imagine with an estimated population of 20 million people.

The SPS Varmint you suggested, can be had for $1,000 with a throw away scope and mounts, a standard SPS can be had for between $825 and 899 just give comparison.

I just can not warm to the SPS series. The CDL`s I tried in left hand were absolutely lovely, bar the 4 mm of urethane on the stock and the maddening lack of calibre choice in the lefty range.

In persepective: If I couldn`t get a 12VLP Savage for much less than 1300, then a VXI Leupold for 480 ish ( I`ll get it cheaper ) if you consider mounts, a nice new leather strap and a bag it`ll make 2 grand look sick. You can see why I`m taking my time in choosing.

It`s terribley hard to get everything I wanted, so I`ve trimmed the list to what I require tailing off the what would be nice to have. So far, the VLP Savage is the closest.

Please consider, I`m talking Australian dollars.

03-20-2007, 04:18 PM	#21
Johnny_Revolver Gun Liker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,209 Blog Entries: 6	Lefty: BVSS or LVP? My assumption is the BVSS ( lol, Beavus ) is more the dedicated Varminter / perhaps bench rester with its more pronounced curve to the pistol grip, the LVP strikes me as being the slightly better carry and shoot with out a rest style rifle. That LVP is a handsome devil.. I`m a month short of signing up, so i`ll do some research. I can ( if there are any left at this particular shop ) do a great deal on a BVSS, $200 less than elsewhere. But, I want the better rifle for me, more than a saving. __________________ It`s a good life, provided you don`t weaken.

03-20-2007, 05:09 PM	#26
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	I'm looking into a Remington 700 SPS Varmint. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

03-21-2007, 06:59 PM	#29
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	I would just be concerned about a factory Savage barrel running a cartridge that has been shown to have short life. Not trashing Savages barrels, just a personal concern. 6.5-284 Cartridge Guide Sorry if I highjacked the thread. That wasn't my intention. Last edited by myarmor; 03-21-2007 at 07:09 PM.

03-21-2007, 08:48 PM	#35
Johnny_Revolver Gun Liker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,209 Blog Entries: 6	Way to whore up my thread, you pack of swine __________________ It`s a good life, provided you don`t weaken.

03-21-2007, 09:08 PM	#37
Johnny_Revolver Gun Liker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,209 Blog Entries: 6	__________________ It`s a good life, provided you don`t weaken.

03-20-2007, 04:25 PM	#22
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	If your looking for a Savage, this model 12 F/TR Precision Target Rifle is raising my eyebrows: Savage Arms New 2006 Products Scroll down and look. It's awesome and sporting a 30" barrel and the new Target Accu-Trigger adjustable down to 6oz

03-20-2007, 04:25 PM	#23
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,812	all the heavy barreled varmint rifles are supposed to adjust down to 1.5#'s. i am not 100% positive about the lvp. id' think the BVSS would run right around 10 pounds. mine definately is not carry friendly with added weight in the stock, the muzzle brake, and the very heavy scope- unloaded 15#'s.

03-20-2007, 04:31 PM	#24
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	The new Target Accu-Trigger action is slightly redesigned and looks like they will be selling it outright for those looking to mainly build. Check it out on their new list I posted. It's almost all the way down the page. And a nice addition chambering for the 6.5-284 Norma. Though I would be concerned with wearing out a button rifled barrel with such a round.. Still cool though.

03-21-2007, 11:10 AM	#27
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,812	button rifled, cut rifled- makes no difference to longevity. heat and poor cleaning methods kill barrels.

03-21-2007, 07:06 PM	#30
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,722	My next rifle is going to be a Browning BLR pistol grip leveraction in 358 caliber. I have got to have one ! Anybody know where I can put one on layaway and pay it out for 12 months ? ltms

03-21-2007, 07:21 PM	#31
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,812	alright, most of these overbore cartridges pretty much kill barrels at 1000-1500rnds. thats not a surprise, but my question is why do you think that a barrel manufactured by savage is going to go south any faster? trust me im not the #1 savage fan, but other than being a little rough, there barrel life has always been fine.

03-21-2007, 07:40 PM	#33
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,812	could be. i hate the junkutrigger and cheap plastic stocks, so i guess its conceivable people may not care for the barrels.

03-21-2007, 09:07 PM	#36
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,812	Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!

03-22-2007, 09:31 AM	#39
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	In Australia, do you have the same selection of Remington, Savage, Weatherby, CZ, Ruger, and such? Remingtons here can sometimes be had at great prices, as they often flood the market, but perhaps in the land down under availability is different. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

03-22-2007, 03:27 PM	#40
Johnny_Revolver Gun Liker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,209 Blog Entries: 6	BRG, we have a fairly good range for the size of the market we have. That`s the key element, its a much smaller market as you can well imagine with an estimated population of 20 million people. The SPS Varmint you suggested, can be had for $1,000 with a throw away scope and mounts, a standard SPS can be had for between $825 and 899 just give comparison. I just can not warm to the SPS series. The CDL`s I tried in left hand were absolutely lovely, bar the 4 mm of urethane on the stock and the maddening lack of calibre choice in the lefty range. In persepective: If I couldn`t get a 12VLP Savage for much less than 1300, then a VXI Leupold for 480 ish ( I`ll get it cheaper ) if you consider mounts, a nice new leather strap and a bag it`ll make 2 grand look sick. You can see why I`m taking my time in choosing. It`s terribley hard to get everything I wanted, so I`ve trimmed the list to what I require tailing off the what would be nice to have. So far, the VLP Savage is the closest. Please consider, I`m talking Australian dollars. __________________ It`s a good life, provided you don`t weaken.