Why so little Mausers. - Page 2

vanmantraveler · 05-30-2007, 12:13 AM

HUMMM would my 1917 M96 be a pre war.... LOL
Mine shoots great even after 90 years..... Scope mounts are a whole other story... I have yet to find a set I am happy with.

Bushkey · 05-30-2007, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by maarten221

Goeie dag Bosman,
I beleive that the Musgrave rifles are cloned and not refurbed. Musgrave made some fine rifles. I love them! What caliber is your rifle?
Groete
Maarten Venter

Dag Maarten, van watter Venters is jy?

I have the .308. Love it a lot, probably cause it was the first rifle I ever hunted and killed a buck with.

Groetnis

Bossie

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Originally Posted by JoeLee

Don't count on me,you being a Gunman must find the last piece,of what seems to be an endless puzzle.Enjoy the World of Guns.

I'll figure it out, I am sure. Thanks

lefty o · 05-30-2007, 05:08 AM

sorry joelee, but the best mauser on the face of this earth will not compete accuracy wise, or come remotely close on lock time . there is a reason a mauser hasnt won anything in 40+years in the benchrest world. fine rifles, but not all that when it comes to precision shooting.

samuel · 05-30-2007, 05:58 AM

Right on LeftyO.But they can be great hunting rifles. samuel.

JoeLee · 05-30-2007, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lefty o

sorry joelee, but the best mauser on the face of this earth will not compete accuracy wise, or come remotely close on lock time . there is a reason a mauser hasnt won anything in 40+years in the benchrest world. fine rifles, but not all that when it comes to precision shooting.

lefty o,Somehow I don't remember in any sense,rime or reason equating the Mauser Rifle,on my post about it,as a Bench Rest Animal.My only intent was to illuminate the fact that the Mauser Rifle,with tuning can rise way above the standard of an issued Military Arm,on par with or better than, any commercial box rifle.But as always as now the issue must be stretched until it's contorted.

Bushkey · 05-30-2007, 08:48 AM

What is your thoughts, is it worth it or not to customize, I wanted to put a serious scope on it with bipod and synthetic stock for some serious playing out to about 400 yards. What kind off accuracy can I expect at 100 yards with match grade ammo?

JoeLee · 05-30-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bushkey

What is your thoughts, is it worth it or not to customize, I wanted to put a serious scope on it with bipod and synthetic stock for some serious playing out to about 400 yards. What kind off accuracy can I expect at 100 yards with match grade ammo?

Wow,That's a hard nut to crack with a sight unseen rifle.Match ammo is only one key for many door's in order to achieve accuracy.Just mount a good scope and mounts,bag shoot it and see how it prints.If you like what you see go from there.You can deplete a bank account building an accurate rifle.Many fine rifles can out shoot the owner,a fact I must admit to at the age I am now,but as a general rule that is true.

maarten221 · 05-30-2007, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bushkey

Dag Maarten, van watter Venters is jy?
I have the .308. Love it a lot, probably cause it was the first rifle I ever hunted and killed a buck with.
Groetnis
Bossie
I'll figure it out, I am sure. Thanks

Bossie, ek is van die Nelspruit Venters.
.308 is one of the best calibres to have in S. Africa. Can take pretty much anything that us mere mortals can afoord to shoot. Wouldn't take on Rhino and such though

Should do a number on the monster warthogs up in the Marble Hall area!

Groete
Maarten

myarmor · 05-30-2007, 11:20 AM

I have to agree with LeftyO and Samuel. While the Mauser action is a reliable workhorse of an action, it's not exactly ideal now a days to build a bench rest rifle on. However if your Mauser is chambered in 308 and in good shape, and you are wanting to shoot out to 400yards I say Drill and Tap it and see how she does. Even if you get 1" to 1-1/2" groups you will have a ton of fun. Depends on what level of accuracy you are looking for. And you mentioned playing so.....
400 yards for a 308 isn't hard.

JoeLee · 05-30-2007, 11:41 AM

Except for one poster that I can see,how did this whole Bench Rest thing get born?

Bushkey · 05-30-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by maarten221

Bossie, ek is van die Nelspruit Venters.

Ek het toevalig 'n Oom Martin Venter hier in Tzaneen geken. Een van sy Eland bulle het perongeluk sy dood veroorsaak.

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Originally Posted by maarten221

.308 is one of the best calibres to have in S. Africa. Can take pretty much anything that us mere mortals can afoord to shoot. Wouldn't take on Rhino and such though

Should do a number on the monster warthogs up in the Marble Hall area!
Groete
Maarten

Trust me I know what it is capable off. I am a big .308 supporter/advokate. I have seen footage of Elephant culling where they used the R1 in 7.62x51 many years ago. I also know off Buffalo that fell to it here by us. I won't recommend it thoug but yes....monster Warthog won't make it.

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Originally Posted by JoeLee

I've seen blueprinted Mauser's

What does that actually mean "blueprinted".

JoeLee · 05-30-2007, 02:05 PM

Way more then I'm capable or typing on this keyboard,so here's a link on Blueprinting the action.

Action Blueprinting

Bushkey · 05-30-2007, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeLee

Way more then I'm capable or typing on this keyboard

O, I see why not. Thanks for the info.

maarten221 · 05-30-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bushkey

Ek het toevalig 'n Oom Martin Venter hier in Tzaneen geken. Een van sy Eland bulle het perongeluk sy dood veroorsaak.
Trust me I know what it is capable off. I am a big .308 supporter/advokate. I have seen footage of Elephant culling where they used the R1 in 7.62x51 many years ago. I also know off Buffalo that fell to it here by us. I won't recommend it thoug but yes....monster Warthog won't make it.

Ons het 'n plaas net buite Tzaneen gehad vir 'n lang ruk in die vroië 80's. Plaas se naam was Mizpah. Saam met Oom Servaas en Oupa Maarten op die plaas gebly. My pa het stories vir Radio Springbok geskryf daai tyd.

7.62x51 is capable of taking pretty much anything on the planet - with good shot placement. I saw video's of elephant culling with R1's as well.

Groete
Maartemn

lefty o · 05-30-2007, 09:05 PM

joelee, it got started because you equated the mauser as being the equal to the best built rifles, including locktime. even if you take the BR thing out of it, the mauser 98 is not comparable to a good modern rifle in terms of accuracy, or lock time. they are fine rifles, capable of excellent accuracy. i happen to have an 1896 swede mauser thats been massaged and is occasionally capable of producing 1/4" groups, but that in no way shape or form puts it on par with a well built modern rifle. concerning locktime, the 98's time is measured in hundreths of a second, while modern rifles ie. 700rem, mod10 savage are measured in miliseconds, with the old remington 788 being the fastest of them all.

05-30-2007, 08:48 AM	#26
Bushkey Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Africa Posts: 35	What is your thoughts, is it worth it or not to customize, I wanted to put a serious scope on it with bipod and synthetic stock for some serious playing out to about 400 yards. What kind off accuracy can I expect at 100 yards with match grade ammo? Last edited by Bushkey; 05-30-2007 at 10:04 AM.

05-30-2007, 12:13 AM	#21
vanmantraveler Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: always on the move Posts: 19	HUMMM would my 1917 M96 be a pre war.... LOL Mine shoots great even after 90 years..... Scope mounts are a whole other story... I have yet to find a set I am happy with.

05-30-2007, 05:08 AM	#23
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,812	sorry joelee, but the best mauser on the face of this earth will not compete accuracy wise, or come remotely close on lock time . there is a reason a mauser hasnt won anything in 40+years in the benchrest world. fine rifles, but not all that when it comes to precision shooting.

05-30-2007, 05:58 AM	#24
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	Right on LeftyO.But they can be great hunting rifles. samuel.

05-30-2007, 11:20 AM	#29
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	I have to agree with LeftyO and Samuel. While the Mauser action is a reliable workhorse of an action, it's not exactly ideal now a days to build a bench rest rifle on. However if your Mauser is chambered in 308 and in good shape, and you are wanting to shoot out to 400yards I say Drill and Tap it and see how she does. Even if you get 1" to 1-1/2" groups you will have a ton of fun. Depends on what level of accuracy you are looking for. And you mentioned playing so..... 400 yards for a 308 isn't hard.

05-30-2007, 11:41 AM	#30
JoeLee Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North New York State. Posts: 1,241	Except for one poster that I can see,how did this whole Bench Rest thing get born?

05-30-2007, 02:05 PM	#32
JoeLee Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North New York State. Posts: 1,241	Way more then I'm capable or typing on this keyboard,so here's a link on Blueprinting the action. Action Blueprinting

05-30-2007, 09:05 PM	#35
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,812	joelee, it got started because you equated the mauser as being the equal to the best built rifles, including locktime. even if you take the BR thing out of it, the mauser 98 is not comparable to a good modern rifle in terms of accuracy, or lock time. they are fine rifles, capable of excellent accuracy. i happen to have an 1896 swede mauser thats been massaged and is occasionally capable of producing 1/4" groups, but that in no way shape or form puts it on par with a well built modern rifle. concerning locktime, the 98's time is measured in hundreths of a second, while modern rifles ie. 700rem, mod10 savage are measured in miliseconds, with the old remington 788 being the fastest of them all.