12-03-2007, 09:28 PM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada
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| 338 win mag vs. 300 win mag Which do you think is a better caliber? Do you think that there is really any noticable difference between the two? |
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12-03-2007, 09:50 PM
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| long range would be the difference, the 300 will perform better on longer shots |
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12-03-2007, 10:32 PM
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL
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| Recoil will be the biggest difference - the .338 would make you flinch. The .338 has a good bit more energy than the .300 win mag. But, unless you are hunting bear, the .338 really won't give you much of an advantage. The .300 win mag will take anything in North America with no problem. |
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12-03-2007, 10:40 PM
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| I've been checking into these two rounds as well. I want a dedicated elk gun. The 300 will shoot a bit flatter, but it looks like the 338 w/210 grain bullet isn't too bad in comparison. My main criteria is knockdown power. I don't want to track a bull for miles after his lungs have been blown out. I am not looking for power to make up for bullet placement. I just want it to be dead when I pull the trigger. I have learned the hard way about poor judgement and pulling the trigger. One shot-one kill. MikeB |
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12-03-2007, 10:47 PM
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I can shoot 110 gr to 220 gr. bullets with a lot more choices than the .338 and 26.5 lbs of recoil vs. 31.4 lbs. does make a difference. I normally shoot 180 Grain Bullets for Moose and caribou,and Black Bears,which would be fine for Elk. 220 gr. for Grizzly Bears and Buffalo. Rich
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12-03-2007, 11:29 PM
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| Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vancouver Island
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magnums, sharing the same parent case, brought out in the latter part of the 1950's. - 458 - 338 - 300 - 264 magnums. The 300 win mag was brought out to replicate the 300 H&H; same performance in a shorter action. Basically a 30-06 magnum. The 338 is a 33 cal magnum that just punches a bigger hole than the 300 . Myself, I use the 300 H&H for deer and elk and the 338 win for moose and bear. If you handload there is quite an advantage with the 338 for deer size game by slowing the bullet down a tad, giving good stopping power without blood shot meat. A heavier bullet works better in heavy brush as well. Both my 300 H&H and 338 win are in pre-64 Model 70 with the 338 having a 1 inch shorter barrel. The 338 kicks more but I only notice that at the range. When you get a shot out hunting, you don't hear it or feel it, so it makes no difference. Another bonus to handloding for the 338 is I use the 225 gr. round nose to load for my 33 win in my old "86". I file the bullet ends flat so they work in the tubular magazine. I made a jig from a block of wood that I can file 8 bullets at a time. I find no difference in carrying the 300 or the 338 as both weigh about the same. Have a 375 H&H in a pre 64 M70, which is nicer to shoot but is considerably heavier to pack around, so the 338 gets to go out more. Regards: Rod | |
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12-03-2007, 11:46 PM
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| Shoot 'Em Up   Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springdale, Arkansas
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| The biggest advantage the .338 has over the .300 is that it can chunk larger, and heavier bullets downrange. The .300 Win mag does shoot flatter, but you can also shoot lighter bullets in the .338, that shoot just about as flat. For an elk only rifle, I would probably just go with the .300 Win Mag, as the extra power and recoil of the .338 just isn't required. However, if you throw in grizzly bear or bison, the .338 would be a better choice, but the .300 Win Mag can surely take those animals, too. Again, the .300 is just fine, but if you just gotta have the extra recoil and power of the .338, then go with that. The .338 really isn't all that useful outside of Alaska, where large bears and moose thrive.
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12-04-2007, 03:15 PM
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| Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada
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| YEs thnak you for all the responses. I think i would proboly go with the 300 win mag. I saw my dad shoot a bull elk at 280 yards with the nosler accubonds and it flipped it off its feet. The bullet penetrated well through the vitals and then exited out the side as it was a head on shot. The 338.s extra recoil would also be a factor in accuracy as if you cannot stand the extra recoil then the few extra foot pounds of energy are not worth it. Has anyone else talked about the 338 federal. My dad also shot a calf moose with it this year. When he shot you could see the blood or whatever come out the opposite side! the exit hole was about three inches across, again with the accubond. HAs anyone else used this bullet? |
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12-04-2007, 04:25 PM
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12-04-2007, 04:57 PM
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12-06-2007, 06:38 PM
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| Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada
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| Anyfeed back on the noslers?  |
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