need help

anthonyb · 12-07-2007, 12:10 AM

hey everyone im new to this. and i was hoping i could get some feedback i was wondering what type of 223 i should get i need to practice my shooting and i knw 223's are cheap to shoot.

thanks everyone

Lng Rng · 12-07-2007, 01:51 AM

Well, what kind of action do you want? How much do you have to spend? What are you going to be shooting? If you want to simply practice shooting, or don't have much experiance, you may want to get a .22.

But, I think we need a little more information before we can offer good advice.

anthonyb · 12-07-2007, 02:02 AM

im not real picky on the action i just want somthing thats not a piece. and i have 450 to spend.

Lng Rng · 12-07-2007, 02:07 AM

Well, if that 450 includes the scope, I would get a bull barrel NEF, and a Nikon prostaff scope.

If it doenst include the scope, maybe a Weatherby Vanguard or a Savage of some sort.

anthonyb · 12-07-2007, 02:18 AM

if i wanted a bolt action. would you still say weatherby or savage

samuel · 12-07-2007, 05:38 AM

I like both Weatherby Vanguard and Stevens/Savage leaning toward Weatherby for nice and Savage for econimy.Stevens is the lowest priced but needs trigger work which costs extra.For just about the same money the Rem. 700ADL is fine.Some things I like better on the 700. sam.

nathangdad · 12-07-2007, 08:21 AM

Rossi single shots are affordable and a single shot will force you to learn to shoot as opposed to a semi-automatic which will teach you to keep pulling the trigger as you move the hits toward the target.

NesikaChad · 12-15-2007, 12:06 PM

If you really REALLY want to learn shooting, I encourage you to look at rimfires.

Yes, a little 22LR.

Here's why.

The fastest 22LR out there still moves at about a third of the speed of a typical highpower rifle cartridge. That means the bullet hangs out in the barrel (barrel time) about three times longer than it's centerfire counterpart.

That barrel time forces you to apply marksmanship fundamentals more. It makes you a better (or worse) shooter. Pure lead bullets and rimfire cartridges are not as accurate or consistent as centerfire, so there is another hindrance. The other advantage is the cost per round is significantly cheaper. You get to spend money on gas to get to the range instead of ammunition.

Anschutz makes a fine rifle out of the box. If you elect to go this route, Eley and Lapua both produce the best ammunition available.

If you decide to go this route, I'd encourage you to look at these products.

Best of luck

C~

billy · 12-15-2007, 12:27 PM

CZ 452

nathangdad · 12-15-2007, 01:56 PM

You need an accurate single shot (preferably) or bolt action rifle. The semi-auto only teaches a person to shoot and walk their hits toward a target
(not unlike a machinegun). The single shot teaches you to think it out before firing.

samuel · 12-15-2007, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nathangdad

You need an accurate single shot (preferably) or bolt action rifle. The semi-auto only teaches a person to shoot and walk their hits toward a target
(not unlike a machinegun). The single shot teaches you to think it out before firing.

Who the he** taught you to shoot an auto-loader Rambo or Hollywood ??? I have been to and competed in matches all across this nation and seen auto-loaders used from M14 to .22lr especially AR,s and .45,s to 9mm and every shot was well aimed from the very first to the last.I never saw anyone "walk" bullets into a target.I never heard of anyone but you suggest doing so. sam.

Mooseman684 · 12-15-2007, 02:15 PM

ROFL...LMAO....

12-07-2007, 12:10 AM	#1
anthonyb Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 7	need help hey everyone im new to this. and i was hoping i could get some feedback i was wondering what type of 223 i should get i need to practice my shooting and i knw 223's are cheap to shoot. thanks everyone

12-07-2007, 08:21 AM	#7
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,905	Rossi is a good buy Rossi single shots are affordable and a single shot will force you to learn to shoot as opposed to a semi-automatic which will teach you to keep pulling the trigger as you move the hits toward the target.

12-15-2007, 12:27 PM	#9
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12-15-2007, 01:56 PM	#10
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,905	Single shot or bolt action You need an accurate single shot (preferably) or bolt action rifle. The semi-auto only teaches a person to shoot and walk their hits toward a target (not unlike a machinegun). The single shot teaches you to think it out before firing.

12-15-2007, 02:15 PM	#12
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,524 Images: 2	ROFL...LMAO.... __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

12-07-2007, 01:51 AM	#2
Lng Rng Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 961	Well, what kind of action do you want? How much do you have to spend? What are you going to be shooting? If you want to simply practice shooting, or don't have much experiance, you may want to get a .22. But, I think we need a little more information before we can offer good advice.

12-07-2007, 02:02 AM	#3
anthonyb Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 7	im not real picky on the action i just want somthing thats not a piece. and i have 450 to spend.

12-07-2007, 02:07 AM	#4
Lng Rng Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 961	Well, if that 450 includes the scope, I would get a bull barrel NEF, and a Nikon prostaff scope. If it doenst include the scope, maybe a Weatherby Vanguard or a Savage of some sort.

12-07-2007, 02:18 AM	#5
anthonyb Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 7	if i wanted a bolt action. would you still say weatherby or savage

12-07-2007, 05:38 AM	#6
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,185	I like both Weatherby Vanguard and Stevens/Savage leaning toward Weatherby for nice and Savage for econimy.Stevens is the lowest priced but needs trigger work which costs extra.For just about the same money the Rem. 700ADL is fine.Some things I like better on the 700. sam.

12-15-2007, 12:06 PM	#8
NesikaChad Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Black Hills South Dakota Posts: 48	If you really REALLY want to learn shooting, I encourage you to look at rimfires. Yes, a little 22LR. Here's why. The fastest 22LR out there still moves at about a third of the speed of a typical highpower rifle cartridge. That means the bullet hangs out in the barrel (barrel time) about three times longer than it's centerfire counterpart. That barrel time forces you to apply marksmanship fundamentals more. It makes you a better (or worse) shooter. Pure lead bullets and rimfire cartridges are not as accurate or consistent as centerfire, so there is another hindrance. The other advantage is the cost per round is significantly cheaper. You get to spend money on gas to get to the range instead of ammunition. Anschutz makes a fine rifle out of the box. If you elect to go this route, Eley and Lapua both produce the best ammunition available. If you decide to go this route, I'd encourage you to look at these products. Best of luck C~