Triple Barrel Rifle/Shotgun

bigbuddy21 · 01-29-2008, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

This brings to mind when I was a kid and into my teenage years, you could buy an over and under gun that one barrel was a rifle (30-30) and the other a shotgun. ?
You don't see them anymore today and these would make excellent survival guns.

Did anyone here ever own or use one. I think Savage made some of them. Could be wrong...A.H

I HAVE AN OLD STEVENS O/U .22 ON TOP
.410 ON BOTTOM.
ALL MY BROS. LEARNED ON THAT GUN

SwedeSteve · 01-29-2008, 02:09 AM

That's the one I started with! Mine had a brown plastic stock set. I am eyeing a used 223/12ga, black stock for $275.

Nathan123 · 01-29-2008, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

This brings to mind when I was a kid and into my teenage years, you could buy an over and under gun that one barrel was a rifle (30-30) and the other a shotgun. ?
You don't see them anymore today and these would make excellent survival guns.

Did anyone here ever own or use one. I think Savage made some of them. Could be wrong...A.H

My uncle has one AH. It is a Tikka. .222 12G O/U It is a great little thing. I will see if i can get a few pictures of it for ya.

MOD 70 · 01-29-2008, 11:12 AM

Sporting Arms of The World by Ray Bearse says drilling.It says"Two rifle barrels(usually one centerfire and one rimfire)and two shot cartridge barrels.The Germans call this four barrel combination aVierling,"How cool is that! Hope it comes with wheels!

SwedeSteve · 01-29-2008, 02:20 PM

A typical drilling.

MOD 70 · 01-29-2008, 03:15 PM

Thanks for picture! Looks pretty nice! 16 X 16 X 8x57 ? Just a guess.

TJ80 · 01-29-2008, 05:02 PM

jerry in that case its not much. that mini sprint is pretty old and i have been through one more of those and this year am moving up to a full sized sprint car.

jerry · 01-29-2008, 05:13 PM

good deal TJ.

I used to love watching those race in Tucson when they had a dirt track.

Lng Rng · 01-29-2008, 05:42 PM

I might be wrong, but I think Remington still makes a rifle/shotgun combo gun. It is called the SP94. Here is a Link-http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/combination_shotgun-Rifle/SPR94.asp

tclifford · 11-01-2009, 02:54 PM

To All,
After reading all the talk about the Drilling Triple Barrel (a.k.a. Dreiling), I feel very smug. Sorry, but I do. I have one. Double 12 ga over, and 7.57 under. But, unlike the ones I'm seeing above, and in the books, mine has hammers! Two hammers, and the right barrel firing pin has a "swing away" lever that allows the hammer to by-pass the right shot gun barrel and strike an angle firing pin for the bullet. It's been in my family since my great uncle had it "hand made" (of course) in Germany circa 1920. I told it took 3 men nearly a year to make that particular gun. I know he paid a LOT for it! But, he had the money, was single, a little goofy, so why not. He only fired it once (another, and funny story), my dad used it for years with "low base" shells. So have I, my son, and in about 10 years my grandson. That would make 5 generations. As for value? Well, that depends on a lot. The maker, year and condition matter a lot, but if they are unique (hammer, etc) they start to become priceless. My son is a gun dealer, and we always take it to our show's booth as an eye catcher. Last November I flatly turned down $16,000 cash! That same fella and his family are now offering $35,000, and it's a used gun albeit in beautiful condition for a "field gun" with engravings that are truly "KILLER"!

DUGABOY1 · 11-01-2009, 06:02 PM

BobJonesGuns.Com - German-Austrian Long Guns

The link above will take you to a place where you can look over the Drillings, and other combination guns available to the shooting public.

After reading all the responces you got from your post, I feel there is a need for a few corrections on this subject.

First the Drilling (meaning a three barreled gun) The most common of which it two side by side shot barrels with a single rifle barrel below, and between the shot barrles for a rifle cartridge. These guns are not rare by any means, and are just like the old 30-30 lever action is in the north american woods, the most ofthen platform seen in the woods of Europe.

The aere extremely accurate from the rifle barrels, and work fine as fowelers as well. They are not heavy, but handle very well for wing shooting, and are outstanding for things like red stagg, and the very large Eastern Europian "WILD BOARS' Often called "Russians" by Americans. Thse drillings are most often fitted with claw mounted large scopes for shooting driven boar at night on snow covered ground.

Only on obsolete company that I know of in the USA ever made drillings,the American three barrel gun co. Almost all are made in Germany, Belgium, or Austria. and there are many brand names on them.

The survival drillings given to the German pilots were not 12 ga but 16 ga double, and the rifle barrel was 9.3X74R. The 16 ga shot gun in Germany has always been the top seller. The 12 ga is far more popular in the USA, and England.

I've owned several of these combination gun over the years, and they are an absolute dream to hunt with. I had one in particular, that I wish I had not sold. It was a German made Kittner Drilling, but was different in that the double barrels on top were rifle barrels, chambered for 9.3X74R, and the single barrel on the bottom was a 16 ga shot barrel.

The average price today in the USA is in the $3K-$9K range, but they are only worth anything if in very good shape, and chambered for usefull cartridges.

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DUGABOY1 · 11-01-2009, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lng Rng

I might be wrong, but I think Remington still makes a rifle/shotgun combo gun. It is called the SP94. Here is a Link-http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/combination_shotgun-Rifle/SPR94.asp

Remington's combinations are not made by Remington, but by Baikal in Russia!

nathangdad · 11-01-2009, 06:38 PM

However, it may or may not be worth a great deal of money.

Research needs to be done as to who manufactured the gun, when it was made, the actual caliber which (for the rifle) is very likely to be
European metric, and most of all the condition of the firearm.

It would be interesting if you can post this info in the future.

Metronome · 11-01-2009, 08:45 PM

Not to go off topic, but the combo .30-30/shotgun might have been made by a now defunct American gun company, if it is the one I am thinking of it should have had a lever that looked like it belonged to a Winchester 94, but it acted as a way to unlock the breech to expose the chambers... I think it also had double triggers.

JimBob · 11-01-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TJ80

Ok this lady i work with was telling me today about how her dad used to have a rifle/shotgun that looked similar to a SxS shotgun either in 10ga or 12 ga with a rifle barrel mounted underneith it. I am wondering if anyone has heard of said gun and who made it ect. She said that it is very old and is worth a lot of money. i am not able to get pictures of it, even though i know it would help. Just trying to figure out what type of gun it is and what it might have been used for. Thanks in advance. Tyler

The fact that she said it is 10 or 12 guage would lead me to suspect this is an American made drilling.Prior to 1900 the L.C.Smith Co. made drillings and in the late 1800s and early 1900s there was the 3 Barrel Gun Company located in Wheeling,WV operated by Frank Hollenbeck.A friend had an L.C.Smith that was 10 guage over .45-70.

DUGABOY1 · 11-01-2009, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metronome

Not to go off topic, but the combo .30-30/shotgun might have been made by a now defunct American gun company, if it is the one I am thinking of it should have had a lever that looked like it belonged to a Winchester 94, but it acted as a way to unlock the breech to expose the chambers... I think it also had double triggers.

BobJonesGuns.Com - C4350D

If this is the drilling you are talking about, it was not made in the USA it was imported by Sloans sporting goods. The American three barrel company never made anything that good! That is the reason they are no longer in buisness! They were pretty sloppiely madelike most American double barreld shotguns. That drilling is an absolute steal at that price! It is plain but a very well made drilling, and perfect for hunting in North America! Ammo for that gun is avaliable in any country store in any place where deer hunting is allowed!

DUGABOY1 · 11-01-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tclifford

To All,
After reading all the talk about the Drilling Triple Barrel (a.k.a. Dreiling), I feel very smug. Sorry, but I do. I have one. Double 12 ga over, and 7.57 under. But, unlike the ones I'm seeing above, and in the books, mine has hammers! Two hammers, and the right barrel firing pin has a "swing away" lever that allows the hammer to by-pass the right shot gun barrel and strike an angle firing pin for the bullet. It's been in my family since my great uncle had it "hand made" (of course) in Germany circa 1920. I told it took 3 men nearly a year to make that particular gun. I know he paid a LOT for it! But, he had the money, was single, a little goofy, so why not. He only fired it once (another, and funny story), my dad used it for years with "low base" shells. So have I, my son, and in about 10 years my grandson. That would make 5 generations. As for value? Well, that depends on a lot. The maker, year and condition matter a lot, but if they are unique (hammer, etc) they start to become priceless. My son is a gun dealer, and we always take it to our show's booth as an eye catcher. Last November I flatly turned down $16,000 cash! That same fella and his family are now offering $35,000, and it's a used gun albeit in beautiful condition for a "field gun" with engravings that are truly "KILLER"!

That is amazing! I've been buying and tradeing in multi barreled firearms for 60 yrs, and I've never seen a drilling that sold for more than $10K, except the drilling that belonged to Hermon Guoring, which sold for $30K, but that was because it belonged to a famous, or infamous person. Now double rifles that is a different story all together. Many are a bargain at $30K. I suppose I need to start selling in your part of the country, where ever that is, as your location is not listed!

........................Things that make you go HUMMMMMMMMmmmmmm!

Purdy · 11-02-2009, 11:19 AM

Glockmeister you are incorrect in thinking drillings are heavy. My Krieghoff Trumpf, 12ga. over 30-06, weighs 7.5 lbs (a little more with the Zeiss 4X attached) which is less than my M-70 '06.

Mooseman, I'd like to get "tens of thousands of dollars" for mine

There isn't a great market demand for them in this country.

tclifford · 11-02-2009, 04:41 PM

To All,
My dreiling (drilling in Amercanize) was made by "Jos. Mayer, Saulgau". Having lived in Germany for 4 years, I believe Saulgau is a city or district. When I figure out how to add photos to this forum, I'll give you a peek and we can proceed.
Oh, my location (now) is Columbia, SC. The gun was originally shipped from Germany to San Francisco.
O'Ciao,
Tim Clifford

ironhead7544 · 11-02-2009, 09:21 PM

Some countries only allow a person to own a small number of guns. So the combo gun allows you to have more calibers. A 30/30 with 12ga would be a good survival gun.

01-29-2008, 02:09 AM	#22
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,576 Images: 1	That's the one I started with! Mine had a brown plastic stock set. I am eyeing a used 223/12ga, black stock for $275. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

01-29-2008, 11:12 AM	#24
MOD 70 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southern B.C. Posts: 169	Sporting Arms of The World by Ray Bearse says drilling.It says"Two rifle barrels(usually one centerfire and one rimfire)and two shot cartridge barrels.The Germans call this four barrel combination aVierling,"How cool is that! Hope it comes with wheels! __________________ If God didn`t intend for man to eat animals he wouldn`t have made them out of meat

01-29-2008, 02:20 PM	#25
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,576 Images: 1	A typical drilling. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

01-29-2008, 03:15 PM	#26
MOD 70 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southern B.C. Posts: 169	Thanks for picture! Looks pretty nice! 16 X 16 X 8x57 ? Just a guess. __________________ If God didn`t intend for man to eat animals he wouldn`t have made them out of meat

11-01-2009, 06:02 PM	#31
DUGABOY1 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 98	BobJonesGuns.Com - German-Austrian Long Guns The link above will take you to a place where you can look over the Drillings, and other combination guns available to the shooting public. After reading all the responces you got from your post, I feel there is a need for a few corrections on this subject. First the Drilling (meaning a three barreled gun) The most common of which it two side by side shot barrels with a single rifle barrel below, and between the shot barrles for a rifle cartridge. These guns are not rare by any means, and are just like the old 30-30 lever action is in the north american woods, the most ofthen platform seen in the woods of Europe. The aere extremely accurate from the rifle barrels, and work fine as fowelers as well. They are not heavy, but handle very well for wing shooting, and are outstanding for things like red stagg, and the very large Eastern Europian "WILD BOARS' Often called "Russians" by Americans. Thse drillings are most often fitted with claw mounted large scopes for shooting driven boar at night on snow covered ground. Only on obsolete company that I know of in the USA ever made drillings,the American three barrel gun co. Almost all are made in Germany, Belgium, or Austria. and there are many brand names on them. The survival drillings given to the German pilots were not 12 ga but 16 ga double, and the rifle barrel was 9.3X74R. The 16 ga shot gun in Germany has always been the top seller. The 12 ga is far more popular in the USA, and England. I've owned several of these combination gun over the years, and they are an absolute dream to hunt with. I had one in particular, that I wish I had not sold. It was a German made Kittner Drilling, but was different in that the double barrels on top were rifle barrels, chambered for 9.3X74R, and the single barrel on the bottom was a 16 ga shot barrel. The average price today in the USA is in the $3K-$9K range, but they are only worth anything if in very good shape, and chambered for usefull cartridges. .............................. __________________ ,,,,,,,,,Mac >>>===(x)===> Double rifles rule, all others just burn powder Last edited by DUGABOY1; 11-01-2009 at 09:22 PM.

01-29-2008, 05:02 PM	#27
TJ80 Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Alberta Canada Posts: 26	jerry in that case its not much. that mini sprint is pretty old and i have been through one more of those and this year am moving up to a full sized sprint car.

01-29-2008, 05:13 PM	#28
jerry Short Time Shirt Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 13,229 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	good deal TJ. I used to love watching those race in Tucson when they had a dirt track.

01-29-2008, 05:42 PM	#29
Lng Rng Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,096	I might be wrong, but I think Remington still makes a rifle/shotgun combo gun. It is called the SP94. Here is a Link-http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/combination_shotgun-Rifle/SPR94.asp

11-01-2009, 02:54 PM	#30
tclifford Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Columbia, SC from Monterey, CA thru the BVI in the Caribbean, to Ireland, and here. All 6 of our married children live between ATL and Florence, SC. Posts: 4	To All, After reading all the talk about the Drilling Triple Barrel (a.k.a. Dreiling), I feel very smug. Sorry, but I do. I have one. Double 12 ga over, and 7.57 under. But, unlike the ones I'm seeing above, and in the books, mine has hammers! Two hammers, and the right barrel firing pin has a "swing away" lever that allows the hammer to by-pass the right shot gun barrel and strike an angle firing pin for the bullet. It's been in my family since my great uncle had it "hand made" (of course) in Germany circa 1920. I told it took 3 men nearly a year to make that particular gun. I know he paid a LOT for it! But, he had the money, was single, a little goofy, so why not. He only fired it once (another, and funny story), my dad used it for years with "low base" shells. So have I, my son, and in about 10 years my grandson. That would make 5 generations. As for value? Well, that depends on a lot. The maker, year and condition matter a lot, but if they are unique (hammer, etc) they start to become priceless. My son is a gun dealer, and we always take it to our show's booth as an eye catcher. Last November I flatly turned down $16,000 cash! That same fella and his family are now offering $35,000, and it's a used gun albeit in beautiful condition for a "field gun" with engravings that are truly "KILLER"!

11-01-2009, 06:38 PM	#33
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,178	This is a design that was once popular However, it may or may not be worth a great deal of money. Research needs to be done as to who manufactured the gun, when it was made, the actual caliber which (for the rifle) is very likely to be European metric, and most of all the condition of the firearm. It would be interesting if you can post this info in the future.

11-01-2009, 08:45 PM	#34
Metronome Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 951	Not to go off topic, but the combo .30-30/shotgun might have been made by a now defunct American gun company, if it is the one I am thinking of it should have had a lever that looked like it belonged to a Winchester 94, but it acted as a way to unlock the breech to expose the chambers... I think it also had double triggers. __________________ I take my coffee how I take my women: bitter and overbearing.

11-02-2009, 11:19 AM	#38
Purdy Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Montana Posts: 430	Glockmeister you are incorrect in thinking drillings are heavy. My Krieghoff Trumpf, 12ga. over 30-06, weighs 7.5 lbs (a little more with the Zeiss 4X attached) which is less than my M-70 '06. Mooseman, I'd like to get "tens of thousands of dollars" for mine There isn't a great market demand for them in this country.

11-02-2009, 04:41 PM	#39
tclifford Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Columbia, SC from Monterey, CA thru the BVI in the Caribbean, to Ireland, and here. All 6 of our married children live between ATL and Florence, SC. Posts: 4	To All, My dreiling (drilling in Amercanize) was made by "Jos. Mayer, Saulgau". Having lived in Germany for 4 years, I believe Saulgau is a city or district. When I figure out how to add photos to this forum, I'll give you a peek and we can proceed. Oh, my location (now) is Columbia, SC. The gun was originally shipped from Germany to San Francisco. O'Ciao, Tim Clifford

11-02-2009, 09:21 PM	#40
ironhead7544 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 254	Some countries only allow a person to own a small number of guns. So the combo gun allows you to have more calibers. A 30/30 with 12ga would be a good survival gun.