Is this old news about a ricochet?

Sooner Shooter · 03-04-2008, 07:46 PM

I was visiting at my mechanics shop today and he showed me a u tube video of a guy shooting a 50 caliber I think at a distance of what he said was 100 yards. He mentioned "no more iron" after the bullet ricochets back and knocks his had and ear muffs off. Didn't seem to be hurt!

mitch_mckee · 03-04-2008, 07:52 PM

Looks authentic, though I don't see how it happened:

YouTube - Guy hit in head with .50 caliber...

killer · 03-04-2008, 08:02 PM

I used to shoot bowling pins with pistols at my gun club. You had 15 seconds to clear 5 pins off the table 21 feet away. Sounds easy but believe me I saw many a "dude" shooter empty a clip and not even wobble a pin.

Anyway when the shoot was 1st being discussed we were told at the gun club meeting only expanding bullets were to be used. Someone forgot to tell a friend guest shooter that had used a .45 with FMC and I saw the bullet literally bounce back off the hard maple pin and hit him on the upper thigh and fall to the ground.

When I used to practice at the gun club I did dig some of my 240 gr .44 mag bullets out of the hard maple bowling pins for giggles. The best round I found was the .44 mag 180 grain...it zipped through them and flung them back hard.

MOD 70 · 03-04-2008, 08:02 PM

I think it`s a lot further than that. The bullet has a very long return time in that video. By the way it skips in front of him, he`s a lucky dude! If it actually hit his head instead of his hearing protection, he`d be toast!

lefty o · 03-04-2008, 08:16 PM

ricochets can go in ANY direction.

JMax · 03-04-2008, 08:17 PM

I thought pins were made from ash instead of maple. When shooting at Second Chance I used a 230gr wad cutter in 38 cases @ 900ft/sec to move pins off the tables. There time stopped when the pin was on the ground. 45 ball had numerous bounce backs. SWC or HP bullets worked best as they typically entered the pin if loaded right.

MOD 70 · 03-04-2008, 08:40 PM

Along time ago I fishing a river and heard what sounded like mad bees passing twenty feet above me. It was a guy and his kids shooting 22`s at cans with no back-stop over the next hill. Couldn`t hear their shots and when I realized what it wAs it scared the crap out of me. They buggered off when they saw my truck ripping into the pit they were in.Would been an interesting conversation if I`d of caught them!

Bravo · 03-04-2008, 08:49 PM

I've watched that a few times. Is it real? Hard to say, it's pretty easy to get your hands on special effects software these days and edit video and sound.

If it did happen, it hit the backstop (high), ricocheted down and back at him, hit the ground about 50 feet in front of him, ricocheted up into his ear muff. Lucky guy.

Sooner Shooter · 03-04-2008, 09:00 PM

It seems authentic but why didn't they try to show a mark where it hit. Head, muffs or just a picture of his face or side of his head. They didn't seem like the kind to have special effects equipment but then again I shouldn't judge should I?

mitch_mckee · 03-04-2008, 09:08 PM

I saw this at the first of the vid:

AVS Video Tools, Video Converter, Audio Tools, Video Editor, DVD Player, DVD Copy, TV Box.

What are they selling? I can't tell.

Sooner Shooter · 03-04-2008, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bravo

I've watched that a few times. Is it real? Hard to say, it's pretty easy to get your hands on special effects software these days and edit video and sound.

If it did happen, it hit the backstop (high), ricocheted down and back at him, hit the ground about 50 feet in front of him, ricocheted up into his ear muff. Lucky guy.

Bravo may have hit the nail on the head.

Palladin8 · 03-04-2008, 09:54 PM

I bought a box of bowling pins from the gun store/ indoor range. The owner told me to be careful because they "shoot back". Sure enough my friend was shooting my glock 23 at them while I was loading my .45lc. I heard the gun go off and then a loud F*@#. I saw my friend hopping around and he said it hit his ankle. He pulled off his shoe and he had a pretty nice welt developing. After that I never shot them with an automatic pistol again.

killer · 03-04-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JMax

I thought pins were made from ash instead of maple. When shooting at Second Chance I used a 230gr wad cutter in 38 cases @ 900ft/sec to move pins off the tables. There time stopped when the pin was on the ground. 45 ball had numerous bounce backs. SWC or HP bullets worked best as they typically entered the pin if loaded right.

Both ash and hard maple are used to my knowledge. Our source had maple pins. What size table did you use? Did diff calibers get placed on diff spots on the table? The .22's at our shoots got to have pins on very rear of the 4x8 sheet of plywood.

I can't shoot a pistol worth a darn but I did see some consistent shooting under 5 seconds with .44 mags. I did clear the table once under 5 seconds with my Desert Eagle but only once.

Everyone always wanted to see the show when the big guns got up there, but how humilating when after the thunder all 5 pins still stood.

wunhunglo · 03-05-2008, 03:32 AM

We had a girl on a local farm killed by a ricochet many years ago. Her brother was shooting his .22lr when one round ricoched off a wall at right angles, round the corner of the house. He didn't realise it at the time but his sister was hanging out the washing and had her arms up and the bullet entered her right armpit, straight into her lung. No screams, sound or anything, just found her dead by the washing line. Medics couldn't find cause of death, no bleeding apparent but autopsy eventually found the entry wound. Only shooting death we've ever had in the area.

Ricochets can be very dangerous.

Farmer · 03-05-2008, 05:36 AM

Hi,

I got hit in the head by my own .45 from my norinco 1911 as few years back. The bullet bounced back off the frame at the 25m range and clocked me squarely between the eyes. It just broke the skin but was enough to push me backwards, luckily no permnent damage as it only hit me in the head!!!!!!!!!!

wunhunglo · 03-05-2008, 07:04 AM

Well farmer.............Were you wearing safety glasses? And do you wear them now???

Wingwiper · 03-05-2008, 12:08 PM

The video is also on military.com under the SHOCK and AWE section, it was posted sometime back and you may need to search about 60 pages back.

It has happen more often than people realize.

Lefty O hit the nail square on the head when he said " ricochets can go in ANY direction."

It is best to have an absobant background when shooting. When I was a kid I had a classmate lose and eye to his own ricochet, 22 short.

Sooner Shooter · 03-05-2008, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wingwiper

The video is also on military.com under the SHOCK and AWE section, it was posted sometime back and you may need to search about 60 pages back.

It has happen more often than people realize.

Lefty O hit the nail square on the head when he said " ricochets can go in ANY direction."

It is best to have an absobant background when shooting. When I was a kid I had a classmate lose and eye to his own ricochet, 22 short.

Wingwiper

I've even heard of a guy shooting on a bridge and coming back to hit him. I guess it hit a groove in a big rock and just circled back up. Oh I'm aware of ricochets and like you say one needs something to absorb the bullet. As Mitch pointed out there was an ad for video stuff before the You Tube video which made me wonder. I'm not denying it can't happen.

rckymtnboy · 03-05-2008, 02:29 PM

The software mentioned in the video is mainly used for converting video to user-friendly formats, cutting, simple editing like adding titles, etc.. It's not a visual effects program by any means. Not that the video couldn't be doctored by another program that is not mentioned, but by the looks of it, it seems to be the real deal.

JMax · 03-05-2008, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killer

Both ash and hard maple are used to my knowledge. Our source had maple pins. What size table did you use? Did diff calibers get placed on diff spots on the table? The .22's at our shoots got to have pins on very rear of the 4x8 sheet of plywood.

I can't shoot a pistol worth a darn but I did see some consistent shooting under 5 seconds with .44 mags. I did clear the table once under 5 seconds with my Desert Eagle but only once.

Everyone always wanted to see the show when the big guns got up there, but how humilating when after the thunder all 5 pins still stood.

I earned Master Blaster in 91 shooting revolvers and turned 5 tables in under 21 seconds. Thats when the tables changes to 5' wide and a second deck with two pins on the wings 18" off the table surface. Pins were set 3' from the back edge. The 9 pin event shot w/9mm had pins 1' from the back edge.

03-04-2008, 07:46 PM	#1
Sooner Shooter Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,488	Is this old news about a ricochet? I was visiting at my mechanics shop today and he showed me a u tube video of a guy shooting a 50 caliber I think at a distance of what he said was 100 yards. He mentioned "no more iron" after the bullet ricochets back and knocks his had and ear muffs off. Didn't seem to be hurt! __________________ Save the drama for your mama!

03-04-2008, 08:02 PM	#3
killer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 993	I used to shoot bowling pins with pistols at my gun club. You had 15 seconds to clear 5 pins off the table 21 feet away. Sounds easy but believe me I saw many a "dude" shooter empty a clip and not even wobble a pin. Anyway when the shoot was 1st being discussed we were told at the gun club meeting only expanding bullets were to be used. Someone forgot to tell a friend guest shooter that had used a .45 with FMC and I saw the bullet literally bounce back off the hard maple pin and hit him on the upper thigh and fall to the ground. When I used to practice at the gun club I did dig some of my 240 gr .44 mag bullets out of the hard maple bowling pins for giggles. The best round I found was the .44 mag 180 grain...it zipped through them and flung them back hard. __________________ "Yeee Hawww...I'm a cowboy on an iron horse." Killer's cabin: http://buckmountainchateau.com/

03-04-2008, 08:02 PM	#4
MOD 70 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southern B.C. Posts: 169	I think it`s a lot further than that. The bullet has a very long return time in that video. By the way it skips in front of him, he`s a lucky dude! If it actually hit his head instead of his hearing protection, he`d be toast! __________________ If God didn`t intend for man to eat animals he wouldn`t have made them out of meat

03-04-2008, 08:40 PM	#7
MOD 70 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southern B.C. Posts: 169	Along time ago I fishing a river and heard what sounded like mad bees passing twenty feet above me. It was a guy and his kids shooting 22`s at cans with no back-stop over the next hill. Couldn`t hear their shots and when I realized what it wAs it scared the crap out of me. They buggered off when they saw my truck ripping into the pit they were in.Would been an interesting conversation if I`d of caught them! __________________ If God didn`t intend for man to eat animals he wouldn`t have made them out of meat

03-04-2008, 09:00 PM	#9
Sooner Shooter Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,488	It seems authentic but why didn't they try to show a mark where it hit. Head, muffs or just a picture of his face or side of his head. They didn't seem like the kind to have special effects equipment but then again I shouldn't judge should I? __________________ Save the drama for your mama!

03-04-2008, 08:16 PM	#5
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 6,360	ricochets can go in ANY direction.

03-04-2008, 08:17 PM	#6
JMax Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SoCal Posts: 84	I thought pins were made from ash instead of maple. When shooting at Second Chance I used a 230gr wad cutter in 38 cases @ 900ft/sec to move pins off the tables. There time stopped when the pin was on the ground. 45 ball had numerous bounce backs. SWC or HP bullets worked best as they typically entered the pin if loaded right.

03-04-2008, 08:49 PM	#8
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 2,294	I've watched that a few times. Is it real? Hard to say, it's pretty easy to get your hands on special effects software these days and edit video and sound. If it did happen, it hit the backstop (high), ricocheted down and back at him, hit the ground about 50 feet in front of him, ricocheted up into his ear muff. Lucky guy.

03-04-2008, 09:08 PM	#10
mitch_mckee Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 1,085	I saw this at the first of the vid: AVS Video Tools, Video Converter, Audio Tools, Video Editor, DVD Player, DVD Copy, TV Box. What are they selling? I can't tell.

03-04-2008, 09:54 PM	#12
Palladin8 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,531	I bought a box of bowling pins from the gun store/ indoor range. The owner told me to be careful because they "shoot back". Sure enough my friend was shooting my glock 23 at them while I was loading my .45lc. I heard the gun go off and then a loud F*@#. I saw my friend hopping around and he said it hit his ankle. He pulled off his shoe and he had a pretty nice welt developing. After that I never shot them with an automatic pistol again.

03-05-2008, 03:32 AM	#14
wunhunglo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa" Posts: 4,829	We had a girl on a local farm killed by a ricochet many years ago. Her brother was shooting his .22lr when one round ricoched off a wall at right angles, round the corner of the house. He didn't realise it at the time but his sister was hanging out the washing and had her arms up and the bullet entered her right armpit, straight into her lung. No screams, sound or anything, just found her dead by the washing line. Medics couldn't find cause of death, no bleeding apparent but autopsy eventually found the entry wound. Only shooting death we've ever had in the area. Ricochets can be very dangerous.

03-05-2008, 05:36 AM	#15
Farmer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Limbri NSW Au Posts: 510	Hi, I got hit in the head by my own .45 from my norinco 1911 as few years back. The bullet bounced back off the frame at the 25m range and clocked me squarely between the eyes. It just broke the skin but was enough to push me backwards, luckily no permnent damage as it only hit me in the head!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Cheers, Rob I'm into gun control - I always use both hands!!!!!!!

03-05-2008, 07:04 AM	#16
wunhunglo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa" Posts: 4,829	Well farmer.............Were you wearing safety glasses? And do you wear them now???

03-05-2008, 12:08 PM	#17
Wingwiper Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 789	The video is also on military.com under the SHOCK and AWE section, it was posted sometime back and you may need to search about 60 pages back. It has happen more often than people realize. Lefty O hit the nail square on the head when he said " ricochets can go in ANY direction." It is best to have an absobant background when shooting. When I was a kid I had a classmate lose and eye to his own ricochet, 22 short. Last edited by Wingwiper; 03-05-2008 at 12:09 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

03-05-2008, 02:29 PM	#19
rckymtnboy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Kalispell, Montana Posts: 412	The software mentioned in the video is mainly used for converting video to user-friendly formats, cutting, simple editing like adding titles, etc.. It's not a visual effects program by any means. Not that the video couldn't be doctored by another program that is not mentioned, but by the looks of it, it seems to be the real deal. __________________ When they come for my guns, I'll give 'em the bullets first!