how important is a 2nd shot....Well......

jaeger · 04-04-2008, 08:22 PM

I just got off the phone with my Brother in law from Mich. Him and his father were in Copper Harbor UP doing some maint on their cabin. They decided to take the 4 wheelers out and check their bear blinds. Usually (well everytime I have been with them) we take handguns for the occasional run in with mama bear. Never happened in the 8 years I have been going with them, but this time was different I guess. He said he was re nailing some of the plywood when he heard a loud snort followed by what sounded like train coming through the bushes. He grabbed his remington 742 and turned around to see about a 250lb sow coming at his dad. He fired his first round striking the bear in the stomach area, the second hit the bear in the right in the upper shoulder area shattering both shoulders and dropped the bear about 6 feet from his father. His dad did draw and fire 3 rounds but none hit the bear. He was still standing next to the bear when he called me. They have to wait for DNR to come out and examine the bear. Figured I would share, and I guess I will keep my Remington 7600 for bear season up there. Oh and his 742 is a 30-06 and his dad was packing a smith .500.

dyeager535 · 04-04-2008, 08:30 PM

You know you need at least a .270 for bears, right? lol

That's a heck of a story though, good thing they were prepared!

Windwalker · 04-04-2008, 08:55 PM

Good story. Glad it had a happy ending.

AKHunter · 04-04-2008, 09:37 PM

Glad to hear your brother did well in stopping the bear before tragedy occured.

I have had plenty of bear encounters but have never been charged.

If there is another "charge" event for your father, hopefully that .500 hits the mark !

Magnumsrule · 04-04-2008, 09:42 PM

Good story.

jaeger · 04-04-2008, 09:52 PM

Yeah I tried to make light of the matter when talking to him and said that the bear probably got scared to death and the aht six had nothing to do with it.

Mooseman684 · 04-04-2008, 10:11 PM

Cut dads shirttail off for missing...He needs to learn not to PANIC, and aim before firing...He could have been mauled if it hadn't been for the Rifleman doing his Job !!!
Rich

jaeger · 04-04-2008, 10:20 PM

I personally think the 500 is a little much for him. He puts about 12 rds a year through it. pure stupidity/ buy hey thats why you take a fat guy bear hunting with you right

Mooseman684 · 04-04-2008, 10:31 PM

You got that right...you only have to outrun the fat guy !!!! LOL

rondog · 04-05-2008, 12:11 AM

Hey, us fat guys resent that remark! Ain't going hunting with any of you guys, I'll tell ya that......

Glad to hear the story had a happy ending. Sounds like ol' Dad needs to get to know the Smith a little better. 'Course, I've never had a bear coming at me either.

GlockMeister · 04-05-2008, 12:20 AM

Well that S&W .500 should have dropped it had he hit it and in the right spots. That's the trouble with those hand cannons under pressure. Hard to hit what you're aiming at when in a panic. Not saying I would have hit it in a panic or that I wouldn't have had to go and change my drawers either though. lol

Good little story, thanks for sharing it with us...

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

You got that right...you only have to outrun the fat guy !!!! LOL

LMAO, funny as hell, a little on the mean side, but the truth and nuttin' but the truth...

rondog · 04-05-2008, 12:24 AM

Yeah, I've also heard you only need to carry a .22 with you too, so you can shoot the fat guy in the leg when the bear charges.

EHCRain10 · 04-05-2008, 10:37 AM

good story, just shows you gotta practice alot

trapfreek · 04-05-2008, 02:32 PM

I bet his dad had to clean his shorts when that was over

meatloaf · 04-05-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rondog

Hey, us fat guys resent that remark! Ain't going hunting with any of you guys, I'll tell ya that......

Glad to hear the story had a happy ending. Sounds like ol' Dad needs to get to know the Smith a little better. 'Course, I've never had a bear coming at me either.

+1

Troy · 04-07-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by trapfreek

I bet his dad had to clean his shorts when that was over

dam near fill my shorts just reading about it, LOL.
lucky the guy on the rifle was on his game though.

SwedeSteve · 04-07-2008, 12:29 AM

Damn! Now I know why Moose asked me to hunt with him! No more late night sammiches! Dad needs to trade that pistol in, or start shooting it! I have shot exactly one bear with a pistol. He was a VERY old son of a biscuiteater. He wanted my salmon, and I gave it to him, along with a $450 flyrod. As I retreated, he decided I looked plump for the picking. I shot in front of him to try and spook him off, and damned if he didn't raise up to me! I shot him 5 times in the head and chest and he walked about 20 ft biting and clawing the earth. Meanwhile I was backpeddling and trying to get a speedloader out of my fishing vest. My pistol was a S&W M29. He died right there on the bank. He was dead before I reloaded, but I shot him 2 more times. It was in a remote area, and I just left him there. I reported it to F&G, and I paid a $500 fine just to make the mess go away. I wish I didn't have to shoot him, it just happens here. I can tell you that he had 5 teeth left in his jaw, and that Grizz was one old sucker!

04-04-2008, 08:22 PM	#1
jaeger Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 289 Images: 3	how important is a 2nd shot....Well...... I just got off the phone with my Brother in law from Mich. Him and his father were in Copper Harbor UP doing some maint on their cabin. They decided to take the 4 wheelers out and check their bear blinds. Usually (well everytime I have been with them) we take handguns for the occasional run in with mama bear. Never happened in the 8 years I have been going with them, but this time was different I guess. He said he was re nailing some of the plywood when he heard a loud snort followed by what sounded like train coming through the bushes. He grabbed his remington 742 and turned around to see about a 250lb sow coming at his dad. He fired his first round striking the bear in the stomach area, the second hit the bear in the right in the upper shoulder area shattering both shoulders and dropped the bear about 6 feet from his father. His dad did draw and fire 3 rounds but none hit the bear. He was still standing next to the bear when he called me. They have to wait for DNR to come out and examine the bear. Figured I would share, and I guess I will keep my Remington 7600 for bear season up there. Oh and his 742 is a 30-06 and his dad was packing a smith .500.

04-04-2008, 08:55 PM	#3
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,533	Good story. Glad it had a happy ending. __________________ America: Love it and protect it or leave it

04-04-2008, 09:42 PM	#5
Magnumsrule Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 591 Blog Entries: 2	Good story. __________________ Cartridge Group Like to discuss cartridges? Join HERE!

04-04-2008, 10:11 PM	#7
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,632 Images: 2	Cut dads shirttail off for missing...He needs to learn not to PANIC, and aim before firing...He could have been mauled if it hadn't been for the Rifleman doing his Job !!! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

04-04-2008, 10:31 PM	#9
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,632 Images: 2	You got that right...you only have to outrun the fat guy !!!! LOL __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

04-04-2008, 08:30 PM	#2
dyeager535 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 52	You know you need at least a .270 for bears, right? lol That's a heck of a story though, good thing they were prepared!

04-04-2008, 09:37 PM	#4
AKHunter Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 899	Glad to hear your brother did well in stopping the bear before tragedy occured. I have had plenty of bear encounters but have never been charged. If there is another "charge" event for your father, hopefully that .500 hits the mark !

04-04-2008, 09:52 PM	#6
jaeger Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 289 Images: 3	Yeah I tried to make light of the matter when talking to him and said that the bear probably got scared to death and the aht six had nothing to do with it.

04-04-2008, 10:20 PM	#8
jaeger Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 289 Images: 3	I personally think the 500 is a little much for him. He puts about 12 rds a year through it. pure stupidity/ buy hey thats why you take a fat guy bear hunting with you right

04-05-2008, 12:11 AM	#10
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 1,321	Hey, us fat guys resent that remark! Ain't going hunting with any of you guys, I'll tell ya that...... Glad to hear the story had a happy ending. Sounds like ol' Dad needs to get to know the Smith a little better. 'Course, I've never had a bear coming at me either. __________________ What she doesn't know about, doesn't piss her off.....

04-05-2008, 12:24 AM	#12
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 1,321	Yeah, I've also heard you only need to carry a .22 with you too, so you can shoot the fat guy in the leg when the bear charges. __________________ What she doesn't know about, doesn't piss her off.....

04-05-2008, 10:37 AM	#13
EHCRain10 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dinwiddie, VA Posts: 117	good story, just shows you gotta practice alot

04-05-2008, 02:32 PM	#14
trapfreek Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 491	I bet his dad had to clean his shorts when that was over __________________ "Great minds talk about ideas, small minds talk about other people."

04-07-2008, 12:29 AM	#17
SwedeSteve Bullet Maintenance !! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The anchor point, Alaska Posts: 10,257 Images: 1	Damn! Now I know why Moose asked me to hunt with him! No more late night sammiches! Dad needs to trade that pistol in, or start shooting it! I have shot exactly one bear with a pistol. He was a VERY old son of a biscuiteater. He wanted my salmon, and I gave it to him, along with a $450 flyrod. As I retreated, he decided I looked plump for the picking. I shot in front of him to try and spook him off, and damned if he didn't raise up to me! I shot him 5 times in the head and chest and he walked about 20 ft biting and clawing the earth. Meanwhile I was backpeddling and trying to get a speedloader out of my fishing vest. My pistol was a S&W M29. He died right there on the bank. He was dead before I reloaded, but I shot him 2 more times. It was in a remote area, and I just left him there. I reported it to F&G, and I paid a $500 fine just to make the mess go away. I wish I didn't have to shoot him, it just happens here. I can tell you that he had 5 teeth left in his jaw, and that Grizz was one old sucker! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers