Looking at the Remington Model 700

[Ron AKA]

Originally Posted by joe90

It has an XMARK adjustable trigger. Supposedly they are easy to adjust but when I go to pick the gun up on monday I will ask the guy at the store about it.

On a side note. Where is a good place to find match ammo. the store near me sells some different types but they didn't say they have the sierra match ammo, which I heard was really good and usually shoots well from the 5r.

I think Remington's position on the XMark is that you have to take it to an authorized dealer to adjust it? Hopefully your dealer will be sympathetic and will show you how. It can't be that difficult unless it takes some special tool. The Savage AccuTrigger comes with a special tool, and is quite easy to ajdust.

On match ammo, I'm not sure if Sierra loads anything? I do know Lapua and Norma do.

Lapua: Rifle cartridges

Norma Precision

Ron

[joe90]

So how do you order those? and I don't really know what to look for in a cartidge.. so any tips on which ones to look at by them?

[Ron AKA]

Originally Posted by joe90

So how do you order those? and I don't really know what to look for in a cartidge.. so any tips on which ones to look at by them?

I would say the standard thinking is that for short ranges where wind drift is less of a concern, you would go with the lighter faster bullets. And for long ranges the normal practice is to go with heavier high ballistic coeficient bullets. However, if you look at the Lapua ballistic data below, it appears the lightest bullet (155 gr.) has the lowest wind drift and the flattest trajectory. I think I would go with that one. The second lowest wind drift is the heaviest bullet, so it is a choice too, but will not be as flat a trajectory.

Lapua: Sport Shooting Cartridges, ccf rifle

In the Norma line they appear to only have two loads. One is a 150 gr. normal uncoated bullet. The other is a 168 gr. moly coated. Until you get some experience, I would stay away from the moly. It should not be used during barrel break in, and it requires special cleaning to prevent moly build up in the barrel. It lowers friction as allows a bit higher velocity.

Norma Precision

Assuming you are handy with computers, I would suggest downloading a free ballistics program, and then putting in the loads you choose, or are considering into the program. With it you can display or print out a table of trajectories depending on the load and sight-in distance. You can down load it at the link below. I find it quite easy to use, but you have to load your own data into it.

HuntingNut » News » Official PointBlank downloads Page

I see at the Norma site they give you the ballistic coeficient (BC) of the bullets, and the program requires that as well as muzzle velocity. If you don't have the BC it can be calculated with this on line calculator. It only needs muzzle velocity and 100 yard (300 feet) velocity to calculate BC.

JBM - Calculations - Ballistic Coefficient (Velocity)

As far as sources, others may be able to make better suggestions than me. I see Midway does list Lapua, Norma, and also some Federals with Sierra MatchKing bullets. But, I see many are special order. Here is a link. Also you may want to try and find the US distributor for each of them and find out from them who the dealers are that stock them. If I had to pick one brand, it would be Lapua. They have a reputation for very accurate ammo, and also making the best brass. So if you go with them you will get quality brass for reloading, plus an accurate bang to get started!

Ammunition - Shop Premium & Discount Ammunition at MidwayUSA

Ron

[telkev]

Black Hills Ammo makes a 168 and 175 grn. match ammo. Not real sure which bullet they use. I have never heard anything bad about their match ammo. If you are not going to reload, I'd take a look at them too. You may have to try several different brands before you find something that shoots real good whether its match ammo or not.

[joe90]

Thanks for all the help!

[falren]

I just got checked out at my local gun club for long range shooting. I have been shooting a FAL for a while but it looses accuracy as the distance increases. It happens to be very ammo particular and I'v everything from store bought winchester, federal and black hills. I've fired lots of mil ammo through it (168 gn NATO) from different countries. 'Nuff said on the FAL.
I got checked out to 300 yds on our 600 yd range. I did it using a brand new 5R. A buddy and I wanted to get checked out so he bought the 5R and I figured I could do it with the FAL. I helped him break in the barrel. I took us two trips to the 100 yard range as we cleaned the barrel and shot the FAL, put another round through the 5R and cleaned the barrel, shot the FAL. You know the drill.
Anyway, we got her broke in correctly and tried out different store bought ammo....aha! I'm finally getting around to your asking about different ammo's for the 5R. The gun actually loved Federal Match 175 gn bullets. It uses Sierra boattail bullets and we shot a 5 round group (sand bagged bench rest) at 100 yds. The group was inside .24 center to center. At 200 yds she shot the same group. At 300 yds she shot just at 1/2 inch, center to center. A light crosswind needed correction left one moa. At 600 yds. That's gonna happen next weekend but if we can hold it I don't suspect she'll do a whole lot worse. You'll find from a zero of 100 yds it took ua 2 MOA to put her on paper at 200 yds then another 3 MOA for 300 yds. Corrections were easy as the guns was so accurate.
The 5r did not like the black hills 175 gn, nor 150/160/168 gn ammo in different brands. In fact, I couldn't see much difference in some of the NATO ammo out there and the Black Hills. It kinda surprised me because I had heard good things about BH ammo.
Long winded...yes. Useful info..I hope so. Store bought ammo is expensive.
The cheaper, $15, per 20 rounds, name brand is just that...cheaper. Plan on trying a few manufacturers and different grain bullets. As soon as you get her broke in she'll tell you what she likes. Then start thinking about reloading. If for nothing else than to cut the expense down alot.
I got hooked n the 5R and know where I can get a new one now. A friend wants me to try out a Rem 40-XB first so I can plan to shoot it tomorrow and see what it will do. Somehow I don't think it does as well as the 5R. Also, start new and you know it was broken in correctly. You also can keep a count of the rounds you put through it (Nice to know if you ever decide to sell it).
I hope this helps you.
Anyone else out there shoot an X-40 with advise? Thanks!

[billy]

Originally Posted by joe90

It has an XMARK adjustable trigger. Supposedly they are easy to adjust but when I go to pick the gun up on monday I will ask the guy at the store about it.

On a side note. Where is a good place to find match ammo. the store near me sells some different types but they didn't say they have the sierra match ammo, which I heard was really good and usually shoots well from the 5r.

Check out http://www.quarterbore.com/library/a...00trigger.html

[joe90]

I'm going to get my rifle in about 30 minutes. I can't wait!
I got it! It is extremely nice and I can't wait till this weekend to shoot it. Everyone at the store was jealous.


The store also had a special sale on Federal Gold Match Grade ammo. What is usually almost $40 a box of 20 was only $19 for a box of 20. So I got some ammo too!