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Old 04-14-2008, 06:06 PM   #1
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Looking at the Remington Model 700

I turn 18 in june so I am looking at getting a rifle of my own around then. I was specifically looking at the Remington Model 700's because of the good things everyone I have talked to has said about them. I am looking for a gun with a synthetic stock, and in a .308 caliber. I will be hunting with it but also will be doing a lot of target shooting. And because it will be right after my birthday and graduation I should have between $1,500 and $2,000 to spend on everything needed/wanted (scope, bipod, ammo to shoot).

Because of the target aspect I have heard many people say that varmint barrels are good (didn't quite get why). I was just looking for your imput on good types of Model 700's to get or if people had other preferences in guns. I was also looking at imput on scopes. Right now I was looking at the Leupold Mark 4, VX L, and VX 7.

One spesific 700 I saw was the SPS in either the stainless or varmint versions.

Sorry for the length. Just thought I would put everything out there.

Thanks for your imput in advance.
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Old 04-14-2008, 06:21 PM   #2
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I noticed your thread and thought I'd give my 2 cents worth. I've had a Rem 700 BDL for about four years and would recommend the 700, at least, to anyone who wants a quality centerbore rifle. Now...the decision on whether to buy the BDL, or any of the other variations Remington offers should depend upon how the rifle is gonna be primarily used. Mine is a 30.06 which I use for deer hunting. But...if you're gonna use it for other purposes that should determine what you use.

I wouldn't trade that rife for any I've been aware of...because it's got all the quality features I need, and more. However, if you're gonna be using it in abusive situations, maybe the synthetic stock...and stainless steel barrel would be better.

Bottom line, buy your gun for the normal conditions under which it will be shot.
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I can't really add to what Oxford said, he hit the nail right on the head. I recommend the Remington 700 for any and all hunting purposes.
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Old 04-14-2008, 10:19 PM   #4
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the 700 is a great gun, i have no complaints about mine

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I noticed your thread and thought I'd give my 2 cents worth. I've had a Rem 700 BDL for about four years and would recommend the 700, at least, to anyone who wants a quality centerbore rifle. Now...the decision on whether to buy the BDL, or any of the other variations Remington offers should depend upon how the rifle is gonna be primarily used. Mine is a 30.06 which I use for deer hunting. But...if you're gonna use it for other purposes that should determine what you use.
I wouldn't trade that rife for any I've been aware of...because it's got all the quality features I need, and more. However, if you're gonna be using it in abusive situations, maybe the synthetic stock...and stainless steel barrel would be better.
Bottom line, buy your gun for the normal conditions under which it will be shot.
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I turn 18 in june so I am looking at getting a rifle of my own around then. I was specifically looking at the Remington Model 700's because of the good things everyone I have talked to has said about them. I am looking for a gun with a synthetic stock, and in a .308 caliber. I will be hunting with it but also will be doing a lot of target shooting. And because it will be right after my birthday and graduation I should have between $1,500 and $2,000 to spend on everything needed/wanted (scope, bipod, ammo to shoot).

Because of the target aspect I have heard many people say that varmint barrels are good (didn't quite get why). I was just looking for your imput on good types of Model 700's to get or if people had other preferences in guns. I was also looking at imput on scopes. Right now I was looking at the Leupold Mark 4, VX L, and VX 7.

One spesific 700 I saw was the SPS in either the stainless or varmint versions.

Sorry for the length. Just thought I would put everything out there.

Thanks for your imput in advance.

The 700 + a Leupold is a very good choice.
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Old 04-14-2008, 11:28 PM   #7
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sps varmint is a pretty solid choice. for scopes, i consider the bushnell 4200 series to be a better scope for less money than a leupold. nothing wrong with a loopy, but they are overpriced.
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Because of the target aspect I have heard many people say that varmint barrels are good (didn't quite get why).
The thicker barrel increases stiffness and in turn reduces vibrations. It also assists in keeping the barrel cooler by a.) taking longer to heat up (more metal) and b.) cooling down quicker (more surface area). Both are increased by going with a fluted barrel.
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sps varmint is a pretty solid choice. for scopes, i consider the bushnell 4200 series to be a better scope for less money than a leupold. nothing wrong with a loopy, but they are overpriced.
+1..... The Elite 4200 is considered by many to be a premier scope. Lefty O is correct about it's quality. The particular model 3-9x40, if it fits your needs, is a superior bargain at $300., easily matching or exceeding Leupold VXIII models. I'd also suggest that you consider the new Mod 70 Winchester which is in your price range and should be avaiable in about a month or so, along with the very nice model 700.

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for 2 grand you will be able to get yourself set up nicely.
fluted bbl., real nice scope,almost any stock you want.
and i must agree on the loopy while a very nice scope.....
they cost too much!
the other optics companies have caught up or are surpassing the gold standard that is leupold.
now you are buying the name.
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Old 04-15-2008, 11:53 AM   #11
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for 2 grand you will be able to get yourself set up nicely.
fluted bbl., real nice scope,almost any stock you want.
and i must agree on the loopy while a very nice scope.....
they cost too much!
the other optics companies have caught up or are surpassing the gold standard that is leupold.
now you are buying the name.

What other optic companies are you talking about here, Blly? Maybe I've just been out of touch on this subject lately. The only other American glass I would consider, for something serious, is Burris. And the last time I checked they were pretty pricey too. I think Tasco is starting to crank out some decent stuff, but after a period of making junk I am afraid they won't keep their standards up. I really don't have any experience with anything else except Nikon, and that was negative.
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Here's my 700 ADL in .308 Winchester:

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Old 04-15-2008, 07:53 PM   #13
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Thanks for all of your help! And the big reason I was looking at leopold is because of their custom shop. I really want the clich adjust windage and elevation (I forget what the name of it is but its like the M1 or something). My uncle who was a SWAT sniper for a while highly recommended it. He is where I'm geting most of these ideas. And I didn't mention but as of now I have a Remington 700 in .270 ( it's my dads but practically mine) just want a truely my own gun bought with my own money.

Thanks again for all the help!
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I've had a Remington Model 700 for over 40 years, and it has been a very good gun. The trigger is very crisp with almost no creep. I understand they have been improved a few times since then. I like the Remington Sendero model, and I think it is not much over $1000, but I don't think available in the 308. Buy the way, I think your .270 is a more versatile cartridge than the .308 for hunting, but the .308 is a historic popular cartridge for long range target shooting.

For target shooting you definitely want a heavy barrel, and a trigger that can be adjusted down to a light pull -- 1 lb or less.

You may want to consider the Savage line. For target shooting there is this one in 308, but is a single shot and heavy. Trigger can be adjusted down to 6 oz.

Savage Arms 12FTR Precision Target Rifle Series

In the more hunting (varmint) line they have this one in 308. It has a heavy fluted barrel and is a little lighter. Not sure what the trigger can be adjusted down to. There are mods for these triggers (cutting a turn or so off the spring) that should get you under 16 oz.

Savage Arms Model 12 Varminter Low Profile

I like this one in 6.5-284 Norma. $1265 list, perhaps $1000 on a good deal?

Savage Arms 12F Class Precision Target Rifle Series



I agree with earlier posts that loopies are high priced for what you get. You don't need to buy one to get windage adjustable mounts. That is really the scope ring that does this. I believe Millett sells windage adjustable mounts.

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If you have access to the 270 for hunting, I would go for more of a pure target gun, like the last one I posted.

Hope that helps some,

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I was looking at the Savage line for a little but after I talked to my uncle he seemed to just trust the Model 700 more than anything. I also wanted it to be a little bit of everything gun not just target or just hunting. But my Uncle was talking about match grade ammo that he used to use in SWAT and said that at 500 yards he could hit a clay piggion. So I was wondering if a .308 would be ok, or better than a 100 grain .270, for groundhogs and other things, not just deer. Thanks agin for the imput. It's helping a lot and opening new things for me to look into.
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What other optic companies are you talking about here, Blly? Maybe I've just been out of touch on this subject lately. The only other American glass I would consider, for something serious, is Burris. And the last time I checked they were pretty pricey too. I think Tasco is starting to crank out some decent stuff, but after a period of making junk I am afraid they won't keep their standards up. I really don't have any experience with anything else except Nikon, and that was negative.
i had mueller in mind when i typed this.
the next time i need a good scope i will buy another.
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Here's my Rem 700 BDL 30.06 with a Leupold 3x9x40 scope mounted.
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My WalMart has clearence price's on there model 700 rifles. There marked down to $279.00.
So check your store and see if there doing the same, when i looked the other day, they had 2 left in 270 caliber here.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, that's a darn good lookin rifle, Ox!
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that IS a good lookin rifle!
who's that galoot holdin it?
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