Semi-autos...sooner or later don't they all jam? - Page 2

K.H. · 06-20-2008, 09:14 PM

The only semi-auto that I've ever had jam was my Ruger 10/22.

samuel · 06-21-2008, 05:51 AM

With shoulder firearms the cause is mechanical but with handguns you may be weak wristing the gun,letting it rock back and robbing the blowback action of some of it's enertia.This does not mean you are weak,it maens you are holding the gun with your wrist too relaxed. sam.

ACfixer · 06-21-2008, 09:28 AM

Sam is correct, technique can contribute to jams in handguns.

As far as jams in autoloaders go, I think every one of mine has jammed at least once, but on the whole it's a very rare incident. I've learned what ammo each of my guns likes best and now it's as close to a non-issue as I think it could be. I keep my guns ultra clean and lubed. My PD weapon of choice is my S&W 629, it never jams.

deanobanion · 07-01-2008, 12:23 PM

Two automatics that I have good experience with: Colt Woodsman and Remington 11 (that's right, 11, not 1100). The Remington 11 (in 12 ga.) is a relatively new aquisition, but it's got probably 200 rds. thru it, never jammed once. I've used a few diggerent types of ammo, too.
The Woodsman on the other hand...it's my dad's though I use it more than him. I, personally, have put probably a thousand rds. thru it, and it's jammed plenty of times, sometimes limp-wristing, sometimes not. Then again, the Woodsman, for all its positive attributes, is notorious for being picky about ammo brands, velocities, etc. Still the best .22 pistol ever concieved, though...

-Mack

twisterx44 · 07-01-2008, 12:46 PM

My 10/22 jams occasionally if Im using a certain hi-cap mag with plastic instead of steel lips. Magazine fault, not gun.

Maybe I'll get laughed at for this, but my Rock River Arms AR15 hasn't had a FTF or a jam in all 1200 rounds. Maybe thats not enough ammo for it to jam yet, but I find if you keep your guns happy (good ammo and good cleaning) they'll keep you happy too. Of course this isn't in stone, there are guns like an AK who are happy regardless of cleaning or ammo, and there are unhappy jamming guns that wont shoot right no matter how clean or high quality the ammo is. but generally speaking.

.22guy · 07-01-2008, 12:50 PM

My SKS and Springfield GI mil-spec have never jammed on me. Neither have my Garands. Come to think of it, my CZ-52 hasn't either, which doesn't surprise me because the ammo for that thing is incredibly powerful.

But might they jam sooner or later? Sure, firearms are just mechanical devices, and all are prone to wear and failure.

andrew cochran · 07-01-2008, 01:00 PM

Any gun will eventually go bad.

elmer fudd · 07-01-2008, 01:03 PM

my .22 pistol is cimi auto and it jams all the time but i have a henery simi auto that you put the bullets in the but of it and they go up to the chamber from there and them once spent are thrown out the bottom has never jamed with me or my dad and he shot it since he was 10 & hes 41 now so ya

ArkansasHunter · 07-01-2008, 01:11 PM

I suppose a semi-auto is gonna Jam sooner or later. If your worried that your semi-auto will Jam then only load it with 1 cartridge because that way the next shot want be there to Jam !!!
Presto problem fixed !!!...A.H

andrew cochran · 07-01-2008, 01:13 PM

Zephri · 07-01-2008, 03:25 PM

Haven't had a jam in my cz52 or my cz83 although I have had a small weird problem with s&b ammo in my cz83 on the second from the last round the slide would lock back and the last round would flip backwards, not much of a problem considering it always did it on the last round. all ya have to do is drop the mag and put a new one in, the round would just fall out of the mag well. As for my sks and ak only one jam in the ak and none in the paratrooper, a few in the yugo but these jams are easy to solve and far and few between. so it's not a problem.

stalebiscuit · 07-01-2008, 05:00 PM

my sks has never jammed....my friends (used) smith and wesson 5906 has never jammed (2000 rounds)

other than that i cant speak much for any other semi-auto

Wingwiper · 07-02-2008, 10:31 AM

I have fired at least 250,000 rounds through 3 or 4 M16s, 3 were M16A1s and one was a M16A2 and only witnessed ONE JAM due to weapon malfunction. They were all Colts and served me well.
I had other jams that were because I had my finger too close to the ejection opening, bent round, bad mag, too much oil which gathered dirt and made a gum etc.

I have fired many thousands of rounds through M14s and my M1A and to date, I do not recall a single Jam due to weapon malfunction.

I have a Glennfield 22lr semi auto that jams after a hunded rounds or so and once cleaned, it functions fine.

I think the key to no jams is I always cleaned and lLIGHTLY oiled after each use. Well manitained firearms will serve you better than ones that have been ignored and collected dust and rust.
Good ammo and not Egyptian Surplus or other cheap grade of ammo
Don't slap your magazines at the bottom to seat them, use gentle pressure, slapping them wil bend down the tops an cause feed problems.
Lightly oil using a good oil.
Good cleaning.
Taking care of your firearm will give you good service in return.

wunhunglo · 07-02-2008, 10:38 AM

My L1A1 SLR (FAL) never jammed in the 7 years I had it in the Army!

SilverRun · 07-02-2008, 11:31 AM

I guess they all could jam, but some designs rarely ever jam. I have GLocks that have never jamed. I have AK's that have never jamed. Heck, I even have one AR that has never jamed.

KP90DC · 07-02-2008, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killer

Everyone I own has jammed at one time or another. What's your experience?

Sooner or later any gun you shoot will jam if you shoot it a lot. I've had just as many revolvers jam as I have Auto's. Dirt, worn parts, bad ammo, bad shooting techniques can all contribute to a gun jamming.

samuel · 07-02-2008, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KP90DC

Sooner or later any gun you shoot will jam if you shoot it a lot. I've had just as many revolvers jam as I have Auto's. Dirt, worn parts, bad ammo, bad shooting techniques can all contribute to a gun jamming.

A very truthful man!We need more like him. sam.

SgtKnuckles · 07-02-2008, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KP90DC

Sooner or later any gun you shoot will jam if you shoot it a lot. I've had just as many revolvers jam as I have Auto's. Dirt, worn parts, bad ammo, bad shooting techniques can all contribute to a gun jamming.

Y U P...

Wingwiper · 07-04-2008, 06:55 AM

If a firearm is properly cleaned, maintained and cared for, you should NEVER have a jam caused by the firearm. Jams caused by improper care, too much oil, dirt, worn parts or bad ammo is NOT the firearms fault.

JMcDonald · 07-04-2008, 08:06 AM

Its funny though. In the end, if you think about this question is sounds a lot like "People... sooner or later don't they all die?"

Heh.

07-01-2008, 12:50 PM	#26
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,140	My SKS and Springfield GI mil-spec have never jammed on me. Neither have my Garands. Come to think of it, my CZ-52 hasn't either, which doesn't surprise me because the ammo for that thing is incredibly powerful. But might they jam sooner or later? Sure, firearms are just mechanical devices, and all are prone to wear and failure. __________________ Guns: they are like baseball cards except they are cool and you can kill things with em. -Billy

07-01-2008, 01:00 PM	#27
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 2,138	Any gun will eventually go bad. __________________ If you don't have anything good to say... Don't say it!

07-01-2008, 01:03 PM	#28
elmer fudd Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: pheasant country USA! Posts: 1,911	my .22 pistol is cimi auto and it jams all the time but i have a henery simi auto that you put the bullets in the but of it and they go up to the chamber from there and them once spent are thrown out the bottom has never jamed with me or my dad and he shot it since he was 10 & hes 41 now so ya __________________ spur hard, shoot straight, party hardy!

07-01-2008, 01:13 PM	#30
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 2,138	+1 __________________ If you don't have anything good to say... Don't say it!

07-01-2008, 03:25 PM	#31
Zephri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN. "The city where nothing happens." Posts: 1,083 Blog Entries: 6	Haven't had a jam in my cz52 or my cz83 although I have had a small weird problem with s&b ammo in my cz83 on the second from the last round the slide would lock back and the last round would flip backwards, not much of a problem considering it always did it on the last round. all ya have to do is drop the mag and put a new one in, the round would just fall out of the mag well. As for my sks and ak only one jam in the ak and none in the paratrooper, a few in the yugo but these jams are easy to solve and far and few between. so it's not a problem. __________________ "All rifles need a sharp pointy object on the end!" http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/zephri/

06-20-2008, 09:14 PM	#21
K.H. Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 199	The only semi-auto that I've ever had jam was my Ruger 10/22.

06-21-2008, 05:51 AM	#22
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	With shoulder firearms the cause is mechanical but with handguns you may be weak wristing the gun,letting it rock back and robbing the blowback action of some of it's enertia.This does not mean you are weak,it maens you are holding the gun with your wrist too relaxed. sam.

06-21-2008, 09:28 AM	#23
ACfixer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Turning base to final -KAPV- Posts: 248	Sam is correct, technique can contribute to jams in handguns. As far as jams in autoloaders go, I think every one of mine has jammed at least once, but on the whole it's a very rare incident. I've learned what ammo each of my guns likes best and now it's as close to a non-issue as I think it could be. I keep my guns ultra clean and lubed. My PD weapon of choice is my S&W 629, it never jams.

07-01-2008, 12:23 PM	#24
deanobanion Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 24	Two automatics that I have good experience with: Colt Woodsman and Remington 11 (that's right, 11, not 1100). The Remington 11 (in 12 ga.) is a relatively new aquisition, but it's got probably 200 rds. thru it, never jammed once. I've used a few diggerent types of ammo, too. The Woodsman on the other hand...it's my dad's though I use it more than him. I, personally, have put probably a thousand rds. thru it, and it's jammed plenty of times, sometimes limp-wristing, sometimes not. Then again, the Woodsman, for all its positive attributes, is notorious for being picky about ammo brands, velocities, etc. Still the best .22 pistol ever concieved, though... -Mack

07-01-2008, 12:46 PM	#25
twisterx44 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: (SW) Portland, OR Posts: 406	My 10/22 jams occasionally if Im using a certain hi-cap mag with plastic instead of steel lips. Magazine fault, not gun. Maybe I'll get laughed at for this, but my Rock River Arms AR15 hasn't had a FTF or a jam in all 1200 rounds. Maybe thats not enough ammo for it to jam yet, but I find if you keep your guns happy (good ammo and good cleaning) they'll keep you happy too. Of course this isn't in stone, there are guns like an AK who are happy regardless of cleaning or ammo, and there are unhappy jamming guns that wont shoot right no matter how clean or high quality the ammo is. but generally speaking.

07-01-2008, 01:11 PM	#29
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,677	I suppose a semi-auto is gonna Jam sooner or later. If your worried that your semi-auto will Jam then only load it with 1 cartridge because that way the next shot want be there to Jam !!! Presto problem fixed !!!...A.H

07-01-2008, 05:00 PM	#32
stalebiscuit Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: atlanta, but much rather be in valdosta Posts: 1,560	my sks has never jammed....my friends (used) smith and wesson 5906 has never jammed (2000 rounds) other than that i cant speak much for any other semi-auto

07-02-2008, 10:31 AM	#33
Wingwiper Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 789	I have fired at least 250,000 rounds through 3 or 4 M16s, 3 were M16A1s and one was a M16A2 and only witnessed ONE JAM due to weapon malfunction. They were all Colts and served me well. I had other jams that were because I had my finger too close to the ejection opening, bent round, bad mag, too much oil which gathered dirt and made a gum etc. I have fired many thousands of rounds through M14s and my M1A and to date, I do not recall a single Jam due to weapon malfunction. I have a Glennfield 22lr semi auto that jams after a hunded rounds or so and once cleaned, it functions fine. I think the key to no jams is I always cleaned and lLIGHTLY oiled after each use. Well manitained firearms will serve you better than ones that have been ignored and collected dust and rust. Good ammo and not Egyptian Surplus or other cheap grade of ammo Don't slap your magazines at the bottom to seat them, use gentle pressure, slapping them wil bend down the tops an cause feed problems. Lightly oil using a good oil. Good cleaning. Taking care of your firearm will give you good service in return. Last edited by Wingwiper; 07-02-2008 at 10:37 AM.

07-02-2008, 10:38 AM	#34
wunhunglo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa" Posts: 1,650	My L1A1 SLR (FAL) never jammed in the 7 years I had it in the Army!

07-02-2008, 11:31 AM	#35
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,661	I guess they all could jam, but some designs rarely ever jam. I have GLocks that have never jamed. I have AK's that have never jamed. Heck, I even have one AR that has never jamed. __________________ "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." - Alexander Hamilton

07-04-2008, 06:55 AM	#39
Wingwiper Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 789	If a firearm is properly cleaned, maintained and cared for, you should NEVER have a jam caused by the firearm. Jams caused by improper care, too much oil, dirt, worn parts or bad ammo is NOT the firearms fault.

07-04-2008, 08:06 AM	#40
JMcDonald Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 516	Its funny though. In the end, if you think about this question is sounds a lot like "People... sooner or later don't they all die?" Heh.