Cleaning Rod

joe90 · 07-03-2008, 09:21 PM

So I am looking at getting a new cleaning rod because as of now I have a cheepo one that I hear can scratch the barrel. Any preferences on cleaning devices or kits? Also how much it might cost me.

Thanks

GlockMeister · 07-03-2008, 10:05 PM

Cleaning rod for what kind of gun? Are you talking one that fits on the rifle, say like the or a cleaning rod for an SKS or and AK or just a cleaning rod to clean most guns/rifles?

If that's the case, have you considered a caliber or multi-caliber specific bore-snake? They work great.... MHO anyhow as well as many others which you will find out...

joe90 · 07-03-2008, 10:15 PM

Oh. sorry. its a 24" barreled rifle. i just got the rifle a couple weeks ago when i turned 18 and I still have to break it in (which i will hopefully be doing tomorrow and monday) but i payed a pretty penny for it and would rather not spend more replacing a damaged barrel because my cleaning rod scrached it. I've heard alot of talk about bore snakes. are they alot better than cleaning rods?

GlockMeister · 07-03-2008, 10:28 PM

Well if you go with a cleaning rod, can't go wrong with a Tipton, say in 26 or 30" for your 24" bbl. But then there's also a boresnake. Just don't get a metal rod. Also maybe look into a bore guide. But again, with a boresnake, no worries and you're done in maybe 3 pulls through? Check them out anyways. But again, if you want and go with a rod, get a Tipton or other carbon fiber rod...

joe90 · 07-03-2008, 11:00 PM

ok. for the snake do you do like one pull with solvent and then with oil or a couple with solvent or what? I was just looking at them online and the price isn't too bad. plus how do you clean the snake? Thanks for the help!

telkev · 07-03-2008, 11:02 PM

I use Tipton rods. They will run you about 30-35 bucks and a bore guide around 25 bucks. The coated Dewey rods are good also.

joe90 · 07-03-2008, 11:07 PM

the carbon dewey rods or the metal with rubber cover? and whats the bore guide do? just make sure the rod is going straight?

GlockMeister · 07-03-2008, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by joe90

ok. for the snake do you do like one pull with solvent and then with oil or a couple with solvent or what? I was just looking at them online and the price isn't too bad. plus how do you clean the snake? Thanks for the help!

What I do is this. I always clean my firearms right after, or the next day after shooting. So they are never that bad. So what I do is spray the CLP, I use Gun Sav'r CLP (cleaner,lubricant,protectant) on the boresnake, say 3 inches on each side of the brush portion of it as well as the brush. I give it a good soaking but not to the point it drips. The I put it in Breech or cylinder end, and pull it through. I do it 2 or 3 times and I'm done. That I spray the CLP where ever else needs to be cleaned, wipe it down and then give anywhere that needs a bit of lube a little bit. Then, I wipe the entire firearm down with a silicone treated cloth, then I'm done.

If the barrel is really cruddy, I run some patches down the barrel with Hoppes #9. I put some down the barrel to soak if need be, then run patches until it's clean. Then use the bore snake method as described, then wipe it down and again, done...

What works for me, may not work for you or anyone else for that matter. But I've done this for many years and have never ever had a problem and anything I've done this to looks the same as the day I got it. Maybe minor wear from use, that's about it...

I clean my boresnakes as soon as I'm done using them. Some have different ways. But for me, again, I've done it this way for years. But, I fill the sink with luke warm water. I soak the entire boresnake with either dish soap or laundry soap, a mild soap is all you need. I rub it into the entire boresnake as best I can, then let it soak in the luke warm water for a while. Then rinse and repeat as needed until I'm satisfied it's clean, then let it hang dry overnight and done, put it away until next time...

telkev · 07-03-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by joe90

the carbon dewey rods or the metal with rubber cover? and whats the bore guide do? just make sure the rod is going straight?

Tipton carbon rods or Dewey coated metal rods are what I have used in the past. A bore guide is inserted into the chamber in place of the bolt to keep the rod straight and to keep solvent from getting down into you action. I would suggest getting a chamber mop also. You do not want any solvent or oil buildup in the chamber area when you shoot. It will cause overpressures and you can pierce a primer. Learned that the hard way.
You can buy bore guides that are specific to your gun and chambering or a univeral bore guide. The latter is what I use because I have several different rifle models and calibers.

joe90 · 07-03-2008, 11:32 PM

ok. and theres no need for a bronze brush or anything. also will this work for breaking it in. the methods I have heard of are like either take 10 shots cleaning after every one then cleaning every other and such. now how would i go about that with a bore snake? or do i not need to?

and where do i find a bore guide? i looked at cabelas and they only had ones for muzzle loaders.

GlockMeister · 07-03-2008, 11:42 PM

If you have a tack driver, then sure, shoot a few, run a patch, but for a general rifle, just use real good factory ammo. NO RELOADS. Until after at least maybe 500-1000 rounds. But no, you don't have to run a patch every 10 rounds. For your first time out, buy maybe 4 boxes of 50, and shoot half or maybe all. Then when you get home or the next day, clean it. Then the next time you go shooting, taker and shoot about the same. After say that time or the next, you're GOOD TO GO!!!

If you want to or would feel more comfortable, you could run a wet patch down the barrel every 5 shots or so. But I don't think it's necessary as I said, unless it's a custom barrel and a tack driver. But read your manual and see what it says, it should cover this?

You will find though, if and as you read any manual, they recommend NOT using reloads. But you can, just NEVER use anyone else's. Load your own, if you do and/or know how or stick with factory loads.

joe90 · 07-03-2008, 11:47 PM

well the gun is a rem 700 5-r in 308. and i have 200 rounds of federal premium gold match grade ammo that i got for 20$ a box when they are usually 40$. so its good ammo. and your saying just like shoot a box or 2 and then clean it like regular?

GlockMeister · 07-04-2008, 12:01 AM

Yep. Should be fine. But please, wait and see if anyone else says other wise and please, refer to the owners manual and see what it say, if anything. If you don't have a manual, try here. Not sure if they have it listed or not? Just scroll to the R's.
page7b
Might I suggest bookmarking it and any others anyone recommends from here. They're all good. lol

Wingwiper · 07-04-2008, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by joe90

So I am looking at getting a new cleaning rod because as of now I have a cheepo one that I hear can scratch the barrel. Any preferences on cleaning devices or kits? Also how much it might cost me.

Thanks

How will a cleaning rod scratch a barrel?? If you have a cheap rod and it bends going in, it may rub against the barrel and I guess may even scratch it.
Get brass barrel and chamber brushes and any rugged rod will suffice, jus tbe sure there are no BURS on it..
How well you want to take care of your firearms will decide how much you want to pay.... Any good Gun Dealer can advise you and sell you what you need.

SwedeSteve · 07-04-2008, 10:33 AM

Go with a bore snake. Hoppes #9 on brush part, your choice of lube about 2 inches behind it. One pull through and she's clean. I just put my snake in a sock and throw it in the washing machine.

Orlando · 07-04-2008, 11:23 AM

Reason for a one piece coated rod is so it doesnt wear aginst the muzzle degrade accuracy.

joe90 · 07-04-2008, 11:32 AM

what do you mean "BURS" on it? and with the Hoppes #9 wouldn't i need a cleaning rod for it or does it attach to the bore snake?

SwedeSteve · 07-04-2008, 12:26 PM

The benefits of the bore snake are many. One obvious one is there is no way to damage the muzzle. Putting Hoppes #9 cleaning solvent on the brush portion of the snake and a little oil 2 inches behind it is all you need. One pull through is like passing 200+ patches through your rifle. Since it is made of cloth there isnt anything more convenient to carry to the range either !!

joe90 · 07-04-2008, 01:06 PM

If i'm cleaning after every or every couple would I have to clean the snake in between pulls through the barrel?

joe90 · 07-05-2008, 11:11 AM

Oh. and do I need a bore guide if I get the bore snake?

07-03-2008, 09:21 PM	#1
joe90 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 142	Cleaning Rod So I am looking at getting a new cleaning rod because as of now I have a cheepo one that I hear can scratch the barrel. Any preferences on cleaning devices or kits? Also how much it might cost me. Thanks

07-03-2008, 10:05 PM	#2
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,377	Cleaning rod for what kind of gun? Are you talking one that fits on the rifle, say like the or a cleaning rod for an SKS or and AK or just a cleaning rod to clean most guns/rifles? If that's the case, have you considered a caliber or multi-caliber specific bore-snake? They work great.... MHO anyhow as well as many others which you will find out... __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

07-03-2008, 10:28 PM	#4
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,377	Well if you go with a cleaning rod, can't go wrong with a Tipton, say in 26 or 30" for your 24" bbl. But then there's also a boresnake. Just don't get a metal rod. Also maybe look into a bore guide. But again, with a boresnake, no worries and you're done in maybe 3 pulls through? Check them out anyways. But again, if you want and go with a rod, get a Tipton or other carbon fiber rod... __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

07-03-2008, 11:02 PM	#6
telkev Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SW MS Posts: 234	I use Tipton rods. They will run you about 30-35 bucks and a bore guide around 25 bucks. The coated Dewey rods are good also. __________________ One hole groups are as easy as pulling the trigger, until you pull it the second time.

07-03-2008, 11:32 PM	#10
joe90 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 142	ok. and theres no need for a bronze brush or anything. also will this work for breaking it in. the methods I have heard of are like either take 10 shots cleaning after every one then cleaning every other and such. now how would i go about that with a bore snake? or do i not need to? and where do i find a bore guide? i looked at cabelas and they only had ones for muzzle loaders. Last edited by joe90; 07-03-2008 at 11:34 PM.

07-03-2008, 10:15 PM	#3
joe90 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 142	Oh. sorry. its a 24" barreled rifle. i just got the rifle a couple weeks ago when i turned 18 and I still have to break it in (which i will hopefully be doing tomorrow and monday) but i payed a pretty penny for it and would rather not spend more replacing a damaged barrel because my cleaning rod scrached it. I've heard alot of talk about bore snakes. are they alot better than cleaning rods?

07-03-2008, 11:00 PM	#5
joe90 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 142	ok. for the snake do you do like one pull with solvent and then with oil or a couple with solvent or what? I was just looking at them online and the price isn't too bad. plus how do you clean the snake? Thanks for the help!

07-03-2008, 11:07 PM	#7
joe90 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 142	the carbon dewey rods or the metal with rubber cover? and whats the bore guide do? just make sure the rod is going straight?

07-03-2008, 11:42 PM	#11
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,377	If you have a tack driver, then sure, shoot a few, run a patch, but for a general rifle, just use real good factory ammo. NO RELOADS. Until after at least maybe 500-1000 rounds. But no, you don't have to run a patch every 10 rounds. For your first time out, buy maybe 4 boxes of 50, and shoot half or maybe all. Then when you get home or the next day, clean it. Then the next time you go shooting, taker and shoot about the same. After say that time or the next, you're GOOD TO GO!!! If you want to or would feel more comfortable, you could run a wet patch down the barrel every 5 shots or so. But I don't think it's necessary as I said, unless it's a custom barrel and a tack driver. But read your manual and see what it says, it should cover this? You will find though, if and as you read any manual, they recommend NOT using reloads. But you can, just NEVER use anyone else's. Load your own, if you do and/or know how or stick with factory loads. __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6! Last edited by GlockMeister; 07-03-2008 at 11:45 PM.

07-03-2008, 11:47 PM	#12
joe90 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 142	well the gun is a rem 700 5-r in 308. and i have 200 rounds of federal premium gold match grade ammo that i got for 20$ a box when they are usually 40$. so its good ammo. and your saying just like shoot a box or 2 and then clean it like regular?

07-04-2008, 12:01 AM	#13
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,377	Yep. Should be fine. But please, wait and see if anyone else says other wise and please, refer to the owners manual and see what it say, if anything. If you don't have a manual, try here. Not sure if they have it listed or not? Just scroll to the R's. page7b Might I suggest bookmarking it and any others anyone recommends from here. They're all good. lol __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

07-04-2008, 10:33 AM	#15
SwedeSteve Bullet Maintenance !! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The anchor point, Alaska Posts: 10,266 Images: 1	Go with a bore snake. Hoppes #9 on brush part, your choice of lube about 2 inches behind it. One pull through and she's clean. I just put my snake in a sock and throw it in the washing machine. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

07-04-2008, 11:23 AM	#16
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 526	Reason for a one piece coated rod is so it doesnt wear aginst the muzzle degrade accuracy.

07-04-2008, 11:32 AM	#17
joe90 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 142	what do you mean "BURS" on it? and with the Hoppes #9 wouldn't i need a cleaning rod for it or does it attach to the bore snake?

07-04-2008, 12:26 PM	#18
SwedeSteve Bullet Maintenance !! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The anchor point, Alaska Posts: 10,266 Images: 1	The benefits of the bore snake are many. One obvious one is there is no way to damage the muzzle. Putting Hoppes #9 cleaning solvent on the brush portion of the snake and a little oil 2 inches behind it is all you need. One pull through is like passing 200+ patches through your rifle. Since it is made of cloth there isnt anything more convenient to carry to the range either !! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

07-04-2008, 01:06 PM	#19
joe90 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 142	If i'm cleaning after every or every couple would I have to clean the snake in between pulls through the barrel?

07-05-2008, 11:11 AM	#20
joe90 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 142	Oh. and do I need a bore guide if I get the bore snake?