Has anyone got or shot a Kel-Tec black rifle?

dgray64 · 07-04-2008, 05:26 PM

I think that they are designated SU rifles. They shoot 223/5.56 ammo and are supposed to be a sporting model of the standard "black rifle" for less money. Thanks.

Dave

Big Dog · 07-04-2008, 06:00 PM

"Black rifle" generally applies to the AR-15 - the SU series is NOTHING like an AR-15. A totally different animal.
A buddy has one, and we wrung it out pretty well. His was the early model - the sights needed to be upgraded - they may be standard on them now - I hope so.
Shooting was good - a very nice trigger, uses AR-15 magazines, the built-in bipod works and is more substantial than it looks. It digested a variety of ammo - commercial and milsurp.
Bad thing is, if shot a lot, the POI will wander - the barrel warps a bit with heat.
A good plinker, but NOT a rifle I would take when TSHTF.
Similar price to the Ruger Mini-14, but better accuracy.

Mike Franklin · 07-04-2008, 06:02 PM

I've never had or handled one but here's a writeup.

Kel-Tec SU-16 Review - EQUIPPED TO SURVIVE (tm)

02032395549 · 07-04-2008, 08:16 PM

my friend got one and i had opportunity to take a shot, that was awsome!!!
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daddyo · 07-05-2008, 09:32 AM

Yep, I've got one. I love it. The sights have taken some getting used to, but they actually seem to work. I can hit the 100 yard gong with no problem. The plastic mags that come with it can be troublesome (mine have nicks in the lips and won't feed right), but AR mags are easy enough to come by. The best part is that they have a lifetime warranty. If your barrel warps, send it back (only heard of this happening to one guy). I need to send my mags back, just haven't gotten around to it. If you're partial to an AR-style stock, they have that too. You have to call to ask about it, its not listed on the website yet. Personally, I like have mine fold in half but to each his own. One guy has made his into practically an M4gery.KTOG Forum - SU-16A4 Project

All in all a great little rifle for not much money.

Windwalker · 07-05-2008, 10:23 AM

I sure like the look of it.

SwedeSteve · 07-08-2008, 08:01 PM

Seems pretty nice. I would like a chance to shoot it !!

07-04-2008, 05:26 PM	#1
dgray64 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: central Texas Posts: 207 Trader Rating: (0)	Has anyone got or shot a Kel-Tec black rifle? I think that they are designated SU rifles. They shoot 223/5.56 ammo and are supposed to be a sporting model of the standard "black rifle" for less money. Thanks. Dave

07-04-2008, 06:00 PM	#2
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,071 Trader Rating: (0)	"Black rifle" generally applies to the AR-15 - the SU series is NOTHING like an AR-15. A totally different animal. A buddy has one, and we wrung it out pretty well. His was the early model - the sights needed to be upgraded - they may be standard on them now - I hope so. Shooting was good - a very nice trigger, uses AR-15 magazines, the built-in bipod works and is more substantial than it looks. It digested a variety of ammo - commercial and milsurp. Bad thing is, if shot a lot, the POI will wander - the barrel warps a bit with heat. A good plinker, but NOT a rifle I would take when TSHTF. Similar price to the Ruger Mini-14, but better accuracy. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

07-04-2008, 06:02 PM	#3
Mike Franklin Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Poteet, Texas Posts: 1,277 Trader Rating: (0)	I've never had or handled one but here's a writeup. Kel-Tec SU-16 Review - EQUIPPED TO SURVIVE (tm) __________________ Aim real good we're nearly out of ammo.

07-05-2008, 10:23 AM	#6
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,294 Trader Rating: (0)	I sure like the look of it. __________________ America: Love it and protect it or leave it

07-08-2008, 08:01 PM	#7
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,177 Trader Rating: (0)	Seems pretty nice. I would like a chance to shoot it !! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

07-04-2008, 08:16 PM	#4
02032395549 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1 Trader Rating: (0)	my friend got one and i had opportunity to take a shot, that was awsome!!! ---------------------------------- +442032395549 , 02032395549

07-05-2008, 09:32 AM	#5
daddyo Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 165 Trader Rating: (0)	Yep, I've got one. I love it. The sights have taken some getting used to, but they actually seem to work. I can hit the 100 yard gong with no problem. The plastic mags that come with it can be troublesome (mine have nicks in the lips and won't feed right), but AR mags are easy enough to come by. The best part is that they have a lifetime warranty. If your barrel warps, send it back (only heard of this happening to one guy). I need to send my mags back, just haven't gotten around to it. If you're partial to an AR-style stock, they have that too. You have to call to ask about it, its not listed on the website yet. Personally, I like have mine fold in half but to each his own. One guy has made his into practically an M4gery.KTOG Forum - SU-16A4 Project All in all a great little rifle for not much money.