HELP! Eddystone, What do I have?

Palladin8 · 08-04-2009, 10:38 AM

Hahaha Cyrano I was just thinking the samething. We have jumped in (well some of us, me included) and offered our opinnions.
AKGARCIA I have two of the same type of actions of the Model 1917 and from everything I have read and been told they are extremely strong and reliable. You can find parts for them online if you ever need to replace something and they are pretty easy to work on to boot. The 30-06 should do well for you up there in Alaska. My suggestion would be to buy several different types of ammo for it and find what the rifle likes to shoot. The 30-06 will perform better than the 308 with heavier bullets. They are both fine calibers with proven track records. Enjoy them.

big boomer · 08-04-2009, 11:59 AM

Congrads on a real steal I would have paid that for the scope. The easy way to tell if sporterised is to look at the stock is it the old original military style going to almost the end of the barrel or do you have a lot of barrel showing? It should not be drilled and tapped for a scope mount.

AKGARCIA · 08-04-2009, 12:24 PM

Yes I will. I need to figure out how to, then I will today.
lOOK FORWARD TO READ WHAT YA ALL THINK.

runfiverun · 08-04-2009, 03:22 PM

i would be more concerned about what the mauser is then what the enfiled is.
just enjoy the enfield.
you obviously have a computer,have fun figuring out the kajilion different kinds of mausers.

rondog · 08-04-2009, 05:20 PM

Here's a photo of a nice one, click on the "full size" button..... 1917 eddystone rifle image by mwarren260 on Photobucket

A sporterized one.... http://bubbler.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/guns-014.jpg

Oooo, here's more! http://thepaulkfamily.com/gunweb/m1917eddystone.htm

Google Images is your friend.

.22hustler · 08-04-2009, 05:57 PM

Here's a few pix of mine.Mine is all original, never been messed with..I got it free.

SightNSqueeze · 08-04-2009, 06:50 PM

This is an online image of what your U.S. Model 1917 Eddystone Arsenal (U.S. Enfield) would have originally looked like. Total production came close to 2.4 million during it's two year production run from 1917 to 1918. These rifles were intended as a quick augment to the more difficult to produce U.S. Model 1903 Springfield and quickly exceeded the Springfield in numbers. The U.S. Model 1917 was actually an Americanized version of the British Pattern 1914 service rifle chambered in .303 British; originally intended to replace the SMLE service rifle but served as a substitute standard for British forces when it was decided that the SMLE was to be retained. The Brits received approximately 1.75 million Pattern 14s. The Model of 1917 was re-chambered to .30-06 (.30 M-1906) and the sights were adjusted to handle the American caliber. Sporterized versions of the same rifle were marketed by Interarms about 15 years ago. They were mounted in sporter stocks and due to the inherently strong action of the M-1917, some were rebarreled in 7mm magnum, but most retained their original .30-06 chambering.

SightNSqueeze · 08-04-2009, 06:56 PM

This is an online image of what your U.S. Model 1917 Eddystone Arsenal (U.S. Enfield) would have originally looked like. Total production came close to 2.4 million during it's two year production run from 1917 to 1918. These rifles were intended as a quick augment to the more difficult to produce U.S. Model 1903 Springfield and quickly exceeded the Springfield in numbers. The U.S. Model 1917 was actually an Americanized version of the British Pattern 1914 service rifle chambered in .303 British; originally intended to replace the SMLE service rifle but served as a substitute standard for British forces when it was decided that the SMLE was retained. The Brits received approximately 1.75 million Pattern 14s. The Model of 1917 was re-chambered to .30-06 (.30 M-1906) and the sights were adjusted to handle the American caliber. Sporterized versions of the same rifle were marketed by Interarms about 15 years ago. They were mounted in sporter stocks and due to the inherently strong action of the M-1917, some were rebarreled in 7mm magnum, but most retained their original .30-06 chambering.

AKGARCIA · 08-04-2009, 07:28 PM

Hello all. OK lets see if I can post the pictures.
Here is the $50.00 Eddystone. Please be BRUTALLY HONEST

HEHEHE

AKGARCIA · 08-04-2009, 07:31 PM

OK GUYS LETS SEE IF I CAN DO THIS THE $50.00 308 WITH SCOPE.
PLEASE COMMENT??

AKGARCIA · 08-04-2009, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .22hustler

Here's a few pix of mine.Mine is all original, never been messed with..I got it free.

WOW HUGE DIFFERENCE!
Thx for the pictures, this one has been changed alot!

BUT... EVEN THOUGH THESE APPEAR TO BE "BUTCHERED" FROM THE ORIGINAL WHAT DO YA ALL SAY???
IS THE 308 POSSIBLY SHORTENED FOR HUNTING IN THE ALASKAN BRUSH? IS IT LESS ACCURATE?
THE 1917 IS IT STILL A GOOD RIFLE FOR SHOOTIN?

big boomer · 08-04-2009, 07:54 PM

From your pics it looks like you have 2 very nicely done sporters that you can be proud of.
1. Is a sporterised 1917 Enfield
2. Looks to be a Check vz-24 mauser a type the same as the 98.
Both these guns are very usable just as is and the vz-24 can always be rebarreled to another caliber later if you want. I did one in 22-250. Your buy is easily worth at least 450 and maybe more so you got a great deal.

AKGARCIA · 08-04-2009, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big boomer

from your pics it looks like you have 2 very nicely done sporters that you can be proud of.
1. Is a sporterised 1917 enfield
2. Looks to be a check vz-24 mauser a type the same as the 98.
Both these guns are very usable just as is and the vz-24 can always be rebarreled to another caliber later if you want. I did one in 22-250. Your buy is easily worth at least 450 and maybe more so you got a great deal.

thx boomer
question?? Why was the 308 cut so short? And what are affects?

SightNSqueeze · 08-04-2009, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big boomer

From your pics it looks like you have 2 very nicely done sporters that you can be proud of.
1. Is a sporterised 1917 Enfield
2. Looks to be a Check vz-24 mauser a type the same as the 98.
Both these guns are very usable just as is and the vz-24 can always be rebarreled to another caliber later if you want. I did one in 22-250. Your buy is easily worth at least 450 and maybe more so you got a great deal.

^^ Agreed. I collect and shoot military service rifles but I also hunt. I have two sporterized '03 Springfields and they are real tack drivers and I’ve taken a few good bucks with one of them. I think you made a good purchase there. Both of your rifles have particularly strong actions and are well known for such.

wcassidy · 08-04-2009, 09:36 PM

normally i see sportarized millitary rifles and cry in my reloading corner for days but i can live with those all things considered. if it were me i'd pay homage to the surplus rifle gods by bringing that enfield back to as close to as issued as possible. as for the mauser, your accuracy shouldn't be horribly affected by a shortened barrel more than one could expect from the carbine version of a regular hunting rifle provided it was recrowned after it was cut short. then again it may shoot altogether unexpectedly as god knows what .308 got fed through it (how fast, how many, corrosive or not) all that may mean your barrel could be in a stage of life where 2-4 moa is the best you can squeeze out of it scoped, it's still minute of deer but if it were me in that situation i'd rebarrel it as it's already been irreversably sporterized no use holding back. all glass half empty thoughts aside, you got an extremely good deal as around here an eddystone starts at $500 and those items usually have rust and no rifling so double score for you i hope you can start writing your name from 150 yds soon

.22hustler · 08-05-2009, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sightnsqueeze

^^ agreed. I collect and shoot military service rifles but i also hunt. I have two sporterized '03 springfields and they are real tack drivers and i’ve taken a few good bucks with one of them. I think you made a good purchase there. Both of your rifles have particularly strong actions and are well known for such.

+1

Purdy · 08-05-2009, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wcassidy

normally i see sportarized millitary rifles and cry in my reloading corner for days but i can live with those all things considered. if it were me i'd pay homage to the surplus rifle gods by bringing that enfield back to as close to as issued as possible.

You'd really have your work cut out for you, how would you put the "ears" back on the bridge? Pretty much impossible.

BTW it looks like a pretty well done sporter, not "butchered" as many were.

Palladin8 · 08-05-2009, 05:56 PM

Yes I will have to agree that they both look like they have been tastefully done. I especially like the stock on the M-1917. I am looking for one right now for my project rifle.
You got a deal of a life time for sure.

AKGARCIA · 08-05-2009, 09:35 PM

I want to thank evryone for all your help. I'm really glad I choose this web site to join.

NOW CAN YA ALL HELP AGAIN?

ON THE PICS YOU CAN SEE THE CONDITION OF THE RIFLE'S. HOW DO I GO TO NEXT LEVEL IN CLEANING? PLEASE FORGIVE MY LACK OF KNOWLEDGE BUT I WANT TO REALLY PUT SOME TIME INTO THEM. DO I BUY A SMALL DETAIL BUFFER? DO I ONLY USE THE OIL AND CLOTH THAT COME WITH CLEANING KIT?
YOU CAN SEE THE SMALL RESIDULE OF DIRT ETC....

WHAT DO I BUY?

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE HELP.

thrillbilly · 08-06-2009, 04:25 AM

I demand a range report! With pics! We like lots of pics! And no windies about group size either! I wanna know how the ol' warhorses are shootin'...WITH PICS!!! LOL

p.s. Did I mention we like lots of pics!?

08-04-2009, 05:20 PM	#25
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 3,296	Here's a photo of a nice one, click on the "full size" button..... 1917 eddystone rifle image by mwarren260 on Photobucket A sporterized one.... http://bubbler.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/guns-014.jpg Oooo, here's more! http://thepaulkfamily.com/gunweb/m1917eddystone.htm Google Images is your friend. __________________ I child-proofed my house, but they still keep getting in! Last edited by rondog; 08-04-2009 at 05:25 PM.

08-04-2009, 05:57 PM	#26
.22hustler Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York Posts: 2,469	Here's a few pix of mine.Mine is all original, never been messed with..I got it free. Attached Thumbnails

08-04-2009, 06:50 PM	#27
SightNSqueeze Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Intercoastal Sea Islands, SC, USA Posts: 2,725	This is an online image of what your U.S. Model 1917 Eddystone Arsenal (U.S. Enfield) would have originally looked like. Total production came close to 2.4 million during it's two year production run from 1917 to 1918. These rifles were intended as a quick augment to the more difficult to produce U.S. Model 1903 Springfield and quickly exceeded the Springfield in numbers. The U.S. Model 1917 was actually an Americanized version of the British Pattern 1914 service rifle chambered in .303 British; originally intended to replace the SMLE service rifle but served as a substitute standard for British forces when it was decided that the SMLE was to be retained. The Brits received approximately 1.75 million Pattern 14s. The Model of 1917 was re-chambered to .30-06 (.30 M-1906) and the sights were adjusted to handle the American caliber. Sporterized versions of the same rifle were marketed by Interarms about 15 years ago. They were mounted in sporter stocks and due to the inherently strong action of the M-1917, some were rebarreled in 7mm magnum, but most retained their original .30-06 chambering. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Was "Your" Voice Heard Today? NRA-ILA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

08-04-2009, 06:56 PM	#28
SightNSqueeze Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Intercoastal Sea Islands, SC, USA Posts: 2,725	This is an online image of what your U.S. Model 1917 Eddystone Arsenal (U.S. Enfield) would have originally looked like. Total production came close to 2.4 million during it's two year production run from 1917 to 1918. These rifles were intended as a quick augment to the more difficult to produce U.S. Model 1903 Springfield and quickly exceeded the Springfield in numbers. The U.S. Model 1917 was actually an Americanized version of the British Pattern 1914 service rifle chambered in .303 British; originally intended to replace the SMLE service rifle but served as a substitute standard for British forces when it was decided that the SMLE was retained. The Brits received approximately 1.75 million Pattern 14s. The Model of 1917 was re-chambered to .30-06 (.30 M-1906) and the sights were adjusted to handle the American caliber. Sporterized versions of the same rifle were marketed by Interarms about 15 years ago. They were mounted in sporter stocks and due to the inherently strong action of the M-1917, some were rebarreled in 7mm magnum, but most retained their original .30-06 chambering. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Was "Your" Voice Heard Today? NRA-ILA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

08-04-2009, 07:28 PM	#29
AKGARCIA Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 18	Hello all. OK lets see if I can post the pictures. Here is the $50.00 Eddystone. Please be BRUTALLY HONEST HEHEHE Attached Thumbnails

08-04-2009, 10:38 AM	#21
Palladin8 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,451	Hahaha Cyrano I was just thinking the samething. We have jumped in (well some of us, me included) and offered our opinnions. AKGARCIA I have two of the same type of actions of the Model 1917 and from everything I have read and been told they are extremely strong and reliable. You can find parts for them online if you ever need to replace something and they are pretty easy to work on to boot. The 30-06 should do well for you up there in Alaska. My suggestion would be to buy several different types of ammo for it and find what the rifle likes to shoot. The 30-06 will perform better than the 308 with heavier bullets. They are both fine calibers with proven track records. Enjoy them.

08-04-2009, 11:59 AM	#22
big boomer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Minn. Posts: 2,306	Congrads on a real steal I would have paid that for the scope. The easy way to tell if sporterised is to look at the stock is it the old original military style going to almost the end of the barrel or do you have a lot of barrel showing? It should not be drilled and tapped for a scope mount.

08-04-2009, 12:24 PM	#23
AKGARCIA Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 18	Yes I will. I need to figure out how to, then I will today. lOOK FORWARD TO READ WHAT YA ALL THINK.

08-04-2009, 03:22 PM	#24
runfiverun Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: soda springs idaho Posts: 695	i would be more concerned about what the mauser is then what the enfiled is. just enjoy the enfield. you obviously have a computer,have fun figuring out the kajilion different kinds of mausers.

08-04-2009, 07:31 PM	#30
AKGARCIA Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 18	OK GUYS LETS SEE IF I CAN DO THIS THE $50.00 308 WITH SCOPE. PLEASE COMMENT?? Attached Thumbnails

08-04-2009, 07:54 PM	#32
big boomer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Minn. Posts: 2,306	From your pics it looks like you have 2 very nicely done sporters that you can be proud of. 1. Is a sporterised 1917 Enfield 2. Looks to be a Check vz-24 mauser a type the same as the 98. Both these guns are very usable just as is and the vz-24 can always be rebarreled to another caliber later if you want. I did one in 22-250. Your buy is easily worth at least 450 and maybe more so you got a great deal.

08-04-2009, 09:36 PM	#35
wcassidy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 283	normally i see sportarized millitary rifles and cry in my reloading corner for days but i can live with those all things considered. if it were me i'd pay homage to the surplus rifle gods by bringing that enfield back to as close to as issued as possible. as for the mauser, your accuracy shouldn't be horribly affected by a shortened barrel more than one could expect from the carbine version of a regular hunting rifle provided it was recrowned after it was cut short. then again it may shoot altogether unexpectedly as god knows what .308 got fed through it (how fast, how many, corrosive or not) all that may mean your barrel could be in a stage of life where 2-4 moa is the best you can squeeze out of it scoped, it's still minute of deer but if it were me in that situation i'd rebarrel it as it's already been irreversably sporterized no use holding back. all glass half empty thoughts aside, you got an extremely good deal as around here an eddystone starts at $500 and those items usually have rust and no rifling so double score for you i hope you can start writing your name from 150 yds soon

08-05-2009, 05:56 PM	#38
Palladin8 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,451	Yes I will have to agree that they both look like they have been tastefully done. I especially like the stock on the M-1917. I am looking for one right now for my project rifle. You got a deal of a life time for sure.

08-05-2009, 09:35 PM	#39
AKGARCIA Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 18	Suggestions on cleaning. I want to thank evryone for all your help. I'm really glad I choose this web site to join. NOW CAN YA ALL HELP AGAIN? ON THE PICS YOU CAN SEE THE CONDITION OF THE RIFLE'S. HOW DO I GO TO NEXT LEVEL IN CLEANING? PLEASE FORGIVE MY LACK OF KNOWLEDGE BUT I WANT TO REALLY PUT SOME TIME INTO THEM. DO I BUY A SMALL DETAIL BUFFER? DO I ONLY USE THE OIL AND CLOTH THAT COME WITH CLEANING KIT? YOU CAN SEE THE SMALL RESIDULE OF DIRT ETC.... WHAT DO I BUY? I REALLY APPRECIATE THE HELP.

08-06-2009, 04:25 AM	#40
thrillbilly Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ozark Hill Country Posts: 2,611	I demand a range report! With pics! We like lots of pics! And no windies about group size either! I wanna know how the ol' warhorses are shootin'...WITH PICS!!! LOL p.s. Did I mention we like lots of pics!? __________________ *" I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on."* John Wayne