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Old 03-30-2012, 09:44 AM   #21
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....... From the pics, it looks like the ejector was just a bit too short and the brass was getting dinged on the slide, rear of the ejection port, on the way out. Since it was that close to the slide, it would come back and hit you in the face and head. Without seeing the gun, that is just my theory. Some people on Glocktalk.com had the same problem. They took the extractors out, polished the top and bottom of the piece and put it back in. Most say that this worked.
Bingo! I think you got it or, at least, most of it. Extensive analysis of this problem by a number of senior Glock Talk members indicates that: (1) The most recent molded extractors are slightly oversized; and this causes problems with, both, the horizontal and vertical dimensions. (2) The former molded extractor claws are straight when, in fact, they should have a vertical angle to them. (3) The older molded extractor claws do not grab case rims tightly enough; and, consequently, tend to, 'bounce' extracted cases out of the chamber. (4) The inside shoulder of these molded extractors, next to the round, 'pivot post', is too large; and this prevents the extractor claw from grabbing case rims deeply enough.

Glock, GmbH appears to be presently aware of these design flaws; and the necessary improvements are starting to show up in the most recent versions of their new cast extractors; and, yes, polishing the horizontal, 'flats' does help. 'Why'? Because it tends to reduce the extractor's overall thickness and works to prevent binding.
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Old 03-31-2012, 11:28 AM   #22
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Our dept went to G23's last summer. The brass in the head and face did happen often. A Glock rep came to our dept and changed the ejector, recoil spring and slide stop lever on each and every pistol. I haven't fired them since then, but will in a few months. I have heard no problems in the few training classes since the 'refit'. Glock stepped up and did the right thing. I hope the new gun works for you. The slide stop lever had nothing to do with the ejection pattern, it was just that they were twice tempered and some were brittle. They changed them all just to be sure. From the pics, it looks like the ejector was just a bit too short and the brass was getting dinged on the slide, rear of the ejection port, on the way out. Since it was that close to the slide, it would come back and hit you in the face and head. Without seeing the gun, that is just my theory. Some people on Glocktalk.com had the same problem. They took the extractors out, polished the top and bottom of the piece and put it back in. Most say that this worked.
Thanks for the feedback! I'll be sure to test it with several rounds when I get it back to ensure it works properly.

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Wow! I'm glad Glock is, 'doing the right thing' and sending you a new Gen4 pistol. The problem with Glock doing things right is the factory has no consistent policy on what the right thing to do is. Some owners like yourself luck out; and others are told to go stuff it. (You can read about this behavior any day of the week on Glock Talk.)

I'm sure you realize that your new Glock, also, may or may not work. If you run into problems again, PM me and I'll pass along several of the more popular fixes for you to try.
Thanks for your help! Can't wait to test out the new pistol and I'll be sure to PM you if I have issues. Thanks again!
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Old 03-31-2012, 02:44 PM   #23
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Brass to the face can be solved by slightly altering the ejector, a trial and error operation best left to an experienced Glock wrencher. I used to have a 3rd gen S&W 45 pistol that would sling hot brass right between my eyes, one time an empty got stuck on the bridge of my shooting glasses and you could see the shape of the rim and a "W" from the WWW headstamp branded into my skin. Thank God that healed!
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Brass to the face can be solved by slightly altering the ejector, a trial and error operation best left to an experienced Glock wrencher. I used to have a 3rd gen S&W 45 pistol that would sling hot brass right between my eyes, one time an empty got stuck on the bridge of my shooting glasses and you could see the shape of the rim and a "W" from the WWW headstamp branded into my skin. Thank God that healed!
Hopefully the new gen4 they're sending me will run the was it's supposed to. If not, I'll have to take matters into my own hands... Andy that's scary!
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