In your opinion, which is the best automatic Glock.
I'm in a toss up between the 10mm Auto, the .45 Auto and the .38 auto
I don't really care about the caliber or anything, I am just looking more for the reliability or if it is known to jam.
Can't speak for all Glocks but I don't think you will find much difference in reliability between the Glock calibers. I shoot a Glock 19 and have only had a couple FTF and that was due to the cheap ammo I was using. I must say that for a carry pistol...one FTF is too many in my book though. So, if I was going to carry I would carry my Walther PP. Never had a FTF with that pistol.
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I heard it said many times, that the G-17, the original model is the most reliable. There are some out there with huge round counts. The 17 has probably been thru more destructive tests than any other single model. This has come up on Glock talk a lot.
As some people like to (mis?)quote the Russians: "Is gun, is shoot!", usually in regards to the AK-47, but it applies equally to the Glock.
Pick the round you like the best and works best for you; taking into account recoil, muzzle blast, ammo availability, ammo price (if you can't afford it, you won't shoot it and you'll fall out of practice), and how it feels in your hand.
Outside that, you really can't go wrong with Glock for reliability, just check out what this guy did to a .45acp Glock 21: Glock 21 Torture Test - Theprepared.com
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In your opinion, which is the best automatic Glock.
I'm in a toss up between the 10mm Auto, the .45 Auto and the .38 auto
I don't really care about the caliber or anything, I am just looking more for the reliability or if it is known to jam.
I have a G-19 3 gen. and I like it a lot. I traded a PT 24/7 .40 cal. for it. Mine is a semi auto not full automatic.
Dave
I have a G-19 3 gen. and I like it a lot. I traded a PT 24/7 .40 cal. for it. Mine is a semi auto not full automatic.
Dave
The only factory-model Glock (that I'm aware of) is the Glock model 18, which is the Glock 17 with a semi/full selector switch.
There are semi/full selector switches made as aftermarket Glock parts for L.E. and military, but those are just pipe dreams for us Civie's until the law is changed/loosened.
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Glock doesn't make a .38auto, do you mean 9mm? Get the Glock with the cheapest available ammo. The 9mm is a good one. The .45 is a good one. ALL of them are good and reliable.
Judging by calibers you mentioned I would say .45 due to ammo supply. I can't give a fair opinion of which Glock is better. Anyone who has read my posts knows I am not a Glock fan by any means. Based on ammo I would get the .45 first, 10 mm second and .38 auto third. Ammo for a .38 auto can be very tough to come by and the 10 mm isn't as common as it used to be. You can rest assured that you will be able to buy .45 ACP 50 and 100 years from now. I would avoid the .45 GAP for the same reason. I don't expect .45 GAP ammo to be in high supply in the future.
As some people like to (mis?)quote the Russians: "Is gun, is shoot!", usually in regards to the AK-47, but it applies equally to the Glock.
Pick the round you like the best and works best for you; taking into account recoil, muzzle blast, ammo availability, ammo price (if you can't afford it, you won't shoot it and you'll fall out of practice), and how it feels in your hand.
Outside that, you really can't go wrong with Glock for reliability, just check out what this guy did to a .45acp Glock 21: Glock 21 Torture Test - Theprepared.com
Everytime i see that video, I cant belive it. It's amazing what he put it through and how reliable it is.
Judging by calibers you mentioned I would say .45 due to ammo supply. I can't give a fair opinion of which Glock is better. Anyone who has read my posts knows I am not a Glock fan by any means. Based on ammo I would get the .45 first, 10 mm second and .38 auto third. Ammo for a .38 auto can be very tough to come by and the 10 mm isn't as common as it used to be. You can rest assured that you will be able to buy .45 ACP 50 and 100 years from now. I would avoid the .45 GAP for the same reason. I don't expect .45 GAP ammo to be in high supply in the future.
If one were so inclined they could do some research.
The 45ACP has been out since 1905. The GAP has been out since 2003.
As of November 2008, from which these numbers were taken, the ACP is only issued to 2% more police as an issue weapon than the GAP round. Since then there have been MORE switching from other calibers to the GAP.
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The .357SIG, which has been out for about 14 years, is issued by 16% of the state law enforcement agencies in the USA.
The .45GAP, which has been out for about 5 years, is issued by 8% of the state law enforcement agencies in the USA.
The .40S&W, which has been out for about 18 years, is issued by 56% of the state law enforcement agencies in the USA.
The .45ACP, which has been out for about 104 years, is issued by 10% of the state law enforcement agencies in the USA.
The 9x19mm, which has been out for about 106 years, is issued by 10% of the state law enforcement agencies in the USA.
Do some googleing and get some numbers then grab a calculator. For haveing a 98 year headstart, the ACP has lost alot of ground to the dying, going extinct GAP round.........
If one were so inclined they could do some research.
The 45ACP has been out since 1905. The GAP has been out since 2003.
As of November 2008, from which these numbers were taken, the ACP is only issued to 2% more police as an issue weapon than the GAP round. Since then there have been MORE switching from other calibers to the GAP.
Do some googleing and get some numbers then grab a calculator. For haveing a 98 year headstart, the ACP has lost alot of ground to the dying, going extinct GAP round.........
Those may be today's facts and today's data but will the GAP be around for people to have this same conversation 100 years from now?
Those may be today's facts and today's data but will the GAP be around for people to have this same conversation 100 years from now?
With an upward spiral as fast as the GAP has caught on in the past very short 6 years. One might be inclined to ask that question of the ACP. If someone were brought up on a 9mm platform gun and wanted a 45, but does not like too heavy of a pistol that holds 7-8 rounds, or one that is too fat to grip with a high cap mag, the GAP works real nice.
I remember back in 1995 when I was looking at a 356TSW. It was a sweet pistol. Ammo was available, had the same ballistics as the just as new 357SIG, about as many guns were available. I almost got it because it had the same ballistics as the 357SIG and retained the capacity of a 9mm being a straight walled cartridge and still fit a 9mm size pistol. THe SIG was marketed to LEO, the TSW was marketed towards competition. People wanna carry what mr. lawdog does and the better marketed less capacity pistol won out.
Too many LEO use it and are switching to and are thinking of going GAP for it to go anywhere.
I would be more worried of the old ACP being going going gone in 100 years than the newer more technologicaly advanced GAP going bye bye any time soon or later.
Not even 20 years ago was the technology available to do this. Better powders and stronger cases make it possible and from real life use of the cartridge, it does everything the ACP can do and do it from a easier to grip smaller frame pistol.
I bet the 45LC guys said the same thing, It is still around and works as good now as it did back then. The GAP is just the next generation of 45 spectacularness.......
Glock doesn't make a .38auto, do you mean 9mm? Get the Glock with the cheapest available ammo. The 9mm is a good one. The .45 is a good one. ALL of them are good and reliable.
I would recommend taking a look at the Glock site and you'll see for yourself .380 auto.
As some people like to (mis?)quote the Russians: "Is gun, is shoot!", usually in regards to the AK-47, but it applies equally to the Glock.
Pick the round you like the best and works best for you; taking into account recoil, muzzle blast, ammo availability, ammo price (if you can't afford it, you won't shoot it and you'll fall out of practice), and how it feels in your hand.
Outside that, you really can't go wrong with Glock for reliability, just check out what this guy did to a .45acp Glock 21: Glock 21 Torture Test - Theprepared.com
This is so important, particularly the part in red. But it seems every one over looks the obvious.
In my are 40SW is 23.00+ for a box of 50 rounds and 45acp, 21.00+ for a box of 50 rounds. 9mm seems to be the only round that does not brake the bank.
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After 12 minutes of consecutive firing, the guide rod melts out the front of the gun, but it continues to fire without issue.
If I'm not mistaken the design is universal between all the Glocks, just in different dimensions for the different calibers and frame sizes.
That is an impressive video but the question is, are you ever going to do that to your gun? Every gun maker out there has some sort of torture test showing how "Tough" their guns are. Do you ever plan on shooting your gun nonstop until the guide rod melts? Shooting 100,000 rounds between cleaning? Filling your gun with mud then shooting it? Running your gun over with a semi? Dropping your gun off a 20 story building? Freezing your gun in a block of ice? Leaving your gun in salt water for a week? Keeping your gun in a freezer then taking it out and shoot immediately? Bury your gun in a hole for a week then shoot?
I have read articles from different gun makers saying they have done one or more of the above named things but I have never once done any of them to any gun I own. I would bet that 99.999% of the members on this forum never have either. I'm sure one nut has tried a couple of them. I take my guns to the range, fire them, take them home, clean them, reload them and let them sit until the next trip. My carry gun goes out with me everyday and is whiped down every day or two. It is also cleaned regulary even if I haven't fired it. It is great that a gun may or may not shoot 100,000 rounds between cleanings but I do not recall ever hearing about a 100,000 round gun fight.
This is not an attack on Glock or intended to put down Glock. Every gun maker does one of these foolish tests. Show me a test that matters and is relevant to everyday gun use and I will be impressed. The best gun for me is the one I shoot best. The best gun for you is the one you shoot best. It doesn't matter if it can be lit on fire for 12 hours and still shoot. I don't plan on lighting my guns on fire.
There is no "Best" model IMHO. Select the one for your needs. I do think for me and my uses the 19 in 9mm and the 30SF in .45ACP work fine. I would like another 34 and 26 though. And maybe a 21SF-Kalifornia model that's sans the ambi mag release.
