opinions on different gun finishes wanted

Troy · 02-17-2005, 12:49 AM

well i be braggin about my new CZ75 lately. it really isn't in bad shape but i want to refinish it. it currently sports that black plastic/paint on it. it has some flaws and from what i read it is really hard to fix that up. for what i paid for the gun and what it is gonna cost to refinish it i'll never get the money back. so i am looking at it as a keeper and down the road it'll wind up in the hands of one of my kids. what i'm gettin at is cause it's gonna be around a long while i wanna put a durable finish on it. i really like those two tone deals with the polished bluing and the nickel. but i figure the bluing would be a lot less durable than say if i went with a hard chroming. i,m not too interested in the paint, i just dont see it holding up the way i want. so i figure i am left with the chroming, anodizing(if they do that), the nickel finish, and whatever else is available. so with what i like in mind but durability taking priority i eagerly await your opinions gentlemen.

Troy · 02-17-2005, 09:25 PM

anybody?

Oxford · 02-17-2005, 10:10 PM

You are talking about refinishing the gun metal and not the wood, aren't you?

Troy · 02-17-2005, 10:14 PM

oops, i paid so much attention to saying what i had in mind that i didn't specify that i want to refinish the gun metal.

Oxford · 02-17-2005, 10:25 PM

Now that that is clarified...I'll leave it to the blueing/chroming experts on G&G to discuss. I personally haven't blued a gun...but I watched my father-in-law reblue my H&R 922 Revolver...which was originally chromed. Nearly all of the chrome was worn off so he sanded/steel wooled it down very carefully before starting the blueing process. He had bought a commercial bottle of blueing,(don't know what brand) and the results were very good.

However, you might want to talk to a qualified gunsmith before tackling this job yourself. If you're lucky he'll give you some pointers, even if he isn't getting the job. :nod:

I would guess that most gunshops and some large sporting goods stores, like Cabela's and Dick's, have blueing kits available on their shelves...and I couldn't imagine it would be too hard to apply...if the directions are followed to the letter.

Troy · 02-17-2005, 10:33 PM

the way i hear it the hard chroming is much more durable than the blueing. i put the question to this forum because i have gotten great advice in the past and cause of that i trust what i will read here. i tend to trust someone who has used a product over someone selling a product.

lefty o · 02-17-2005, 10:47 PM

hard chrome is very durable, and makes for a nice looking finish. if you really want the 2 tone look you might consider having the slide black "T"d or roguarded. bluing is not super durable, but if done right it looks very good, and i highly recommend staying away from the cold blue's no matter who says they've had good results from them. ive got blued guns, parkerized, hard chromed and titanium nitrided guns, and the only thiing more durable than the hard chrome is the titanium nitride. the tin finish costs more than your pistol does and thats not counting the prep work- go with hard chrome.

Troy · 02-17-2005, 10:53 PM

lefty o - you said "you might consider having the slide black "T"d or roguarded." what is black "T"d? Also is the hard chroming as bright and shiny as the chrome you find on a car? I know the processes are different, just curious of the look of the finish.

Troy · 02-17-2005, 11:16 PM

some guns have the detailing done in gold. what kind of finish is that and is it durable?

lefty o · 02-17-2005, 11:35 PM

some are real gold, and some are gold titanium.

jerry · 02-18-2005, 06:08 AM

A bit pricy but very good.

http://www.robarguns.com/DesktopDefa...d=4&tabindex=2

lefty o · 02-18-2005, 10:44 AM

hard chrome is not nickel bumper chrome. hard chrome goes from gray to silvery white depending what condition the surface is its put on. best guy in the business for hard chrome is Virgil Tripp of tripp research. metaloy also comes highly recommended, fords, APW and a few others can handle just about any finish you like.

02-17-2005, 12:49 AM	#1
Troy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 2,493 Trader Rating: (0)	opinions on different gun finishes wanted well i be braggin about my new CZ75 lately. it really isn't in bad shape but i want to refinish it. it currently sports that black plastic/paint on it. it has some flaws and from what i read it is really hard to fix that up. for what i paid for the gun and what it is gonna cost to refinish it i'll never get the money back. so i am looking at it as a keeper and down the road it'll wind up in the hands of one of my kids. what i'm gettin at is cause it's gonna be around a long while i wanna put a durable finish on it. i really like those two tone deals with the polished bluing and the nickel. but i figure the bluing would be a lot less durable than say if i went with a hard chroming. i,m not too interested in the paint, i just dont see it holding up the way i want. so i figure i am left with the chroming, anodizing(if they do that), the nickel finish, and whatever else is available. so with what i like in mind but durability taking priority i eagerly await your opinions gentlemen.

02-17-2005, 10:10 PM	#3
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 12,949 Trader Rating: (0)	You are talking about refinishing the gun metal and not the wood, aren't you? __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

02-17-2005, 10:25 PM	#5
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 12,949 Trader Rating: (0)	Now that that is clarified...I'll leave it to the blueing/chroming experts on G&G to discuss. I personally haven't blued a gun...but I watched my father-in-law reblue my H&R 922 Revolver...which was originally chromed. Nearly all of the chrome was worn off so he sanded/steel wooled it down very carefully before starting the blueing process. He had bought a commercial bottle of blueing,(don't know what brand) and the results were very good. However, you might want to talk to a qualified gunsmith before tackling this job yourself. If you're lucky he'll give you some pointers, even if he isn't getting the job. :nod: I would guess that most gunshops and some large sporting goods stores, like Cabela's and Dick's, have blueing kits available on their shelves...and I couldn't imagine it would be too hard to apply...if the directions are followed to the letter. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

02-18-2005, 06:08 AM	#11
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,757 Trader Rating: (0)	A bit pricy but very good. http://www.robarguns.com/DesktopDefa...d=4&tabindex=2 __________________

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02-17-2005, 09:25 PM	#2
Troy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 2,493 Trader Rating: (0)	anybody?

02-17-2005, 10:14 PM	#4
Troy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 2,493 Trader Rating: (0)	oops, i paid so much attention to saying what i had in mind that i didn't specify that i want to refinish the gun metal.

02-17-2005, 10:33 PM	#6
Troy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 2,493 Trader Rating: (0)	the way i hear it the hard chroming is much more durable than the blueing. i put the question to this forum because i have gotten great advice in the past and cause of that i trust what i will read here. i tend to trust someone who has used a product over someone selling a product.

02-17-2005, 10:47 PM	#7
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,669 Trader Rating: (0)	hard chrome is very durable, and makes for a nice looking finish. if you really want the 2 tone look you might consider having the slide black "T"d or roguarded. bluing is not super durable, but if done right it looks very good, and i highly recommend staying away from the cold blue's no matter who says they've had good results from them. ive got blued guns, parkerized, hard chromed and titanium nitrided guns, and the only thiing more durable than the hard chrome is the titanium nitride. the tin finish costs more than your pistol does and thats not counting the prep work- go with hard chrome.

02-17-2005, 10:53 PM	#8
Troy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 2,493 Trader Rating: (0)	lefty o - you said "you might consider having the slide black "T"d or roguarded." what is black "T"d? Also is the hard chroming as bright and shiny as the chrome you find on a car? I know the processes are different, just curious of the look of the finish.

02-17-2005, 11:16 PM	#9
Troy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 2,493 Trader Rating: (0)	some guns have the detailing done in gold. what kind of finish is that and is it durable?

02-17-2005, 11:35 PM	#10
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,669 Trader Rating: (0)	some are real gold, and some are gold titanium.

02-18-2005, 10:44 AM	#12
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,669 Trader Rating: (0)	hard chrome is not nickel bumper chrome. hard chrome goes from gray to silvery white depending what condition the surface is its put on. best guy in the business for hard chrome is Virgil Tripp of tripp research. metaloy also comes highly recommended, fords, APW and a few others can handle just about any finish you like.