[Sparkytfl]

My gun must just hate CCI because I loaded another 63 rounds (how many 310 bullets I had left) with the winchester primers and every one worked fine.

[ninwnc]

Another problem solved.

Nick

[jp72019]

I have reciently started reloading 7.62x54R. The ammunition that came with the gun (AK 47 SVD dragonov) is .311 diameter bullet. My question is
will .308 and or .312 diameter work?

[gandog56]

Have you slugged your bore? That is the sure way to tell. I've never had a difference between using .311" or .312" projectiles. I do not have one Mosin that was ever down to .308". I guess some early Finns were.

[R5CYA]

cool! this resurected thread is almost as old as my son!
if it's allready shooting .311, .312 should be fine. allways nice to know the actual bore size though. slug it.
what are you looking to use? .303 brit bullets?

p.s. a seven year old post might be a resurection record! lol

[gandog56]

Quote:       Originally Posted by R5CYA

what are you looking to use? .303 brit bullets?

I do.

[Geo M44]

Quote:       Originally Posted by jp72019

I have reciently started reloading 7.62x54R. The ammunition that came with the gun (AK 47 SVD dragonov) is .311 diameter bullet. My question is will .308 and or .312 diameter work?

Factory specs on the bore are .311 to .314 for the grooves and .300 for the lands. That said, I load and shoot both 303 (.310 - .311) and .308 bullets with similar results (170gr. to 182gr.). It is very rare to have an MN that slugs/measures larger than about .304 (all 10 of the MN's I have owned sluged at less than .303). Of course the better the bore the more usable .308 bullets become. Since the cost is about the same it makes sense to use .310-.311. I would have a tendancy to shy away from anything larger than .311, just to be on the safe side.

Bullets in .310 to .311 are in abundant supply and variety, so again there is little point in using .308 or .312.

[roggom]

Hi all, just wondering if it is possible or safe to pull the bullets from bulgarian 10/55 berdan primed ammo and reload with a standard varmint load. I have reloaded privi and winchester with Sierra .308 110 gr Varminter on top of 51 gr of Varget 2.715 OAL, with great results. Since the berdan ammo has two flash holes will it have a bad effect on burn, or has anyone tried this before. The reason is I want to make some varmint loads for my Mosin and not have to worry about looking for brass.

Thanks

[R5CYA]

lots of people pull milsurp ammo aprt and re-weigh the powder to make them more accurate. i don't see why you can't do what you're thinking about. that's the minimum load for that weight bullet with varget. you should be just fine.
p.s. it's berdan

[cremley]

Since reloads depend on the rifle, it would be hard to tell you which one would work best. However, I will share a recipe for the 1940 Tula 91/30 that I gave to my dad.

44.2gr of IMR4895. Hornady .308 #3037 BT-FMJ 150gr bullets. Winchester brass. CCI 200 Large rifle primers. With this load, I was able to shoot a 0.8", 5 shot group at 100yds using my Caldwell led sled.

Reloading for the mosins gives great accuracy but it is more expensive than surplus and if you are just at the range plinking, reloading for the mosin is almost a waste of time and money. However, if you like shooting very nice groups and hitting small targets at farther ranges with your surplus rifle, then spending the extra time and money is indeed worth it!!

[roggom]

Quote:       Originally Posted by R5CYA

lots of people pull milsurp ammo aprt and re-weigh the powder to make them more accurate. i don't see why you can't do what you're thinking about. that's the minimum load for that weight bullet with varget. you should be just fine. p.s. it's berdan

Thanks for the info and picking up on my mistake, must have been all that time stationed in San Diego and hangin out in National City.

Like a bergen, ohoohho like a bergen.

[Boyscout]

Hornady 7th Edition has data for both the Finnish Mosin-Nagants (.308) and Russian Mosin Nagants (.312).

[roggom]

I have been able to use some nice recipes for 150 fmj/bt and some 174 sp, but what my goal is to use the unfired milsurp case and primer, with a Sierra 110 gr .308 varminter,

I pulled 15 bullets, and the mean powered charge was 48.8. with a 147 gr fmj lightball. like this from the 7.62 site (all credit to 7.62x54r.net for the pic)


Well using the suprlus powder wont work because 48.8 grains puts the powder to about a millimeter under the bullet. According to my guestimation I would need 54gr of the surplus powerder, and it aint gonna fit.

So I wonder if I can load this milsurp case and berdan primer (bulg 10/55) with 51 of Varget for a 110gr hp .308. and give it a slight crimp.

[R5CYA]

that's what lee says is the minimum load with a .310" 110 grain bullet. i see no reason not to. keep that 2.715 minimum oal.

[roggom]

Loaded around 15 for now, all-in-all came out fine. Calculated to about $8.40 for 20 rounds, but since I have 2 spam cans of ammo the milsurp is already a sunk cost, so about $4 out of pocket. So now I can leave the brass in the cactus.



Here is one next to a red lion, about the same size as a 10/55 but Im too lazy to walk to my ammo locker tonight.

[R5CYA]

those look wicked! what are you gonna shoot with them?

[roggom]

Jack Rabbits and Yotes. Both are super fast and I am using my MN 91/30 sporter with LER scope out in the Colorado Plains. I picked up the stripper clips with some Bulgarian ammo last gun show and these actually work. Anyway, there is tons of little cactus and goat heads and any other pig sticking plant scattered about and I lost half of my good brass, so I will try this out and see.

[R5CYA]

lol! that would vaporize the wascal wabbit!

[gandog56]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Geo M44

Factory specs on the bore are .311 to .314 for the grooves and .300 for the lands. That said, I load and shoot both 303 (.310 - .311) and .308 bullets with similar results (170gr. to 182gr.). It is very rare to have an MN that slugs/measures larger than about .304 (all 10 of the MN's I have owned sluged at less than .303). Of course the better the bore the more usable .308 bullets become. Since the cost is about the same it makes sense to use .310-.311. I would have a tendancy to shy away from anything larger than .311, just to be on the safe side. Bullets in .310 to .311 are in abundant supply and variety, so again there is little point in using .308 or .312.

Well, there is when I got 2000 147 gr, .311", FMJBT's for $152 shipped!

[R5CYA]

Quote:       Originally Posted by gandog56

Well, there is when I got 2000 147 gr, .311", FMJBT's for $152 shipped!

hey gandog, you ever measure yours? allmost all the ones i measured came out at .3105 but the weights were all over the place.