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02-17-2010, 09:55 AM
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#41 | | Firearm Zealot
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While I did find the 220 grain bullets accurate, and hunting distances here do tend to be short (under 150 yards average), I did finally buy two hundred 200 grain SP and five hundred 185 grain SP bullets. Should hold me for awhile!
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02-17-2010, 10:39 AM
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#42 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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(big dog) ya well i glad you can make them work they just don't seem to work well in my rifle rifles are like people they are all different as i said before they work of if shots are less than 150 yards but i hunt both woods and open corn feilds so i need a bullet that will work up close or at a distance so thats where i find the 200 work best my longest shot with my 8mm was on a 145lb doe and i SWAG at it aka a (scientific wild a$$ guess) but when i walked it it turned out to be 311 yards from where my tree stand is to where she dropped i aimed a little to high and hit her in the spine right through shoulders but o well we all cant be dead eye dicks all the time
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02-17-2010, 10:41 AM
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#43 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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BTW Big Dog what type of powder are you using for those 220 ? and how accurate are they it terms of group size? thanks
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02-18-2010, 07:23 AM
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#44 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by Mauser Madness | (big dog) ya well i glad you can make them work they just don't seem to work well in my rifle rifles are like people they are all different as i said before they work of if shots are less than 150 yards but i hunt both woods and open corn feilds so i need a bullet that will work up close or at a distance so thats where i find the 200 work best my longest shot with my 8mm was on a 145lb doe and i SWAG at it aka a (scientific wild a$$ guess) but when i walked it it turned out to be 311 yards from where my tree stand is to where she dropped i aimed a little to high and hit her in the spine right through shoulders but o well we all cant be dead eye dicks all the time | You using a scope on that thing? I have been thinking about scpoing mine, but haven't decided.
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02-18-2010, 09:28 AM
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#45 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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thaddy 1978 no i am not using a scope i use open sights it was a half/half shot half because i shot at those distances a lot and half because it was a lucky shot its one thing to hit a paper target at 300 yards that does not move but to hit a walking deer now thats another story as i said in another posting i just bought a K98 and i think i will put a long eye releaf scope on it or i will buy an original scope mount of of E bay to mount over the reciver they run about $250-400 i am not much for one to drill and tap a military rifle if it shoots good already but for $250 you can get a good L.E.R.S (long eye releaf scope) system and you don't have to permently change your rifle
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02-18-2010, 02:32 PM
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#46 | | Firearm Zealot
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Well, since my K98 only cost me $230, I could not see spending 400 more on a scope mount.
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02-18-2010, 08:34 PM
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#47 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by gandog56 | Well, since my K98 only cost me $230, I could not see spending 400 more on a scope mount. | Amen to that! My Yugo 24/47 was only $140. I though about just doing a red dot on it, but haven't fully decided. While I am not overly concerned about retaining its value, I don't really want to do one of those cut-off-bolt-replacements or drill anything.
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02-18-2010, 09:19 PM
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#48 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Two months ago by son shot a BIG Elk Cow at 200 yards. When it hit we heard a loud KA-WAK. She went 10 yards and dropped. The exit hole was about 2 inches. The load was
Brass: Win reformed 270 brass
Powder: H4895, 45.5grs
Bullet: Rem 185gr CoreLoc
Primer: Federal
When sighting the rifle in it held 1 - 1 1/4 inch at 100 yards
Another good load is the above with 47grs IMR4064 --- THIS MAX!! so start 10% down and work up
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02-19-2010, 08:13 AM
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#49 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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thats pretty good for a cow elk i use my 8mm for whitetail , black bear and this year i am trying to get a tag for a Vermont moose hunt i will be using my k98 with 200 grain Nosler Partition bullets that load will defently give a moose a bad day (oadad ) i am surprised how well the remington bullets worked i am not a big fan of Remington bullets i wounded a buck 2 years ago with my 30-30 at 65 yards he turned just as i shot the bullet hit the very front part of the shoulder and only clipped the front of one lung and he ran about 250 yards into the woods onto neighbors property lucky for me i got him out of there but after that i decided not to use Remington bullets anymore i now use Hornady Leverevolution 160 grain and last year i redeamed myself with a nice 4 point at and at a crazy distance of 15 yards lol hit him right i the center of the chest and he never moved after that so this year i hope to take a buck with my 8mm i really want to show my bro that these old militray rifles dont have to shoot sub-MOA groups to kill a deer at 200 yards or farther given right conditions a good 8mm with a scope and good handloads will have no problem takeing a deer at 500 yards given that the person behind the trigger can make a shot like that greatest shot i ever witnessed was my dad dispatching a coyote at 643 yards with his 270 i honestly tell you that day i $h!t a BRICK!!!!!!!!!!!
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02-19-2010, 11:03 AM
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#50 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by thaddy1978 | Amen to that! My Yugo 24/47 was only $140. I though about just doing a red dot on it, but haven't fully decided. While I am not overly concerned about retaining its value, I don't really want to do one of those cut-off-bolt-replacements or drill anything. | I got a Red Dot on a Mosin 91/30. But it's the iron sights on my Mauser.
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02-19-2010, 11:32 AM
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#51 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by Mauser Madness | BTW Big Dog what type of powder are you using for those 220 ? and how accurate are they it terms of group size? thanks | I used 42.0 grains of WW748 in reformed .30-06 brass. If I remember, I was getting under an inch at 50 yards, open sighted. I do not have a Mauser scoped, so didn't trust my eyes at 100 yards. My shooting buddy was impressed with the old War Horse's performance. Hodgdon data says this combination should do 2150 FPS. Plenty good for 'minute of deer' down here! Distances are 80 yards max in one stand and 150 yards at another stand. Well within an open-sighted Mauser's capabilities.
I am really liking WW748 powder, but haven't been able to find it lately.
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02-19-2010, 03:07 PM
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#52 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Mauser Madness: Having seen what it ill do on an Elk I have no doubt what it will do to a Moose with a 200 gr bullet and loaded to a good velocity. The Rem 185 is great because the jacket is thicker than other Rem bullets/calibers. They made it this way for the 8MM Mag which kept blowing up on impact so an attempted solution was to thicken the jacket, still didn't to well but gave us an excellent/cheap bullet for the 8mm Mauser The rifle has a 2x6-32 pistol scope on it At our local range is a 500 yard range, at the end is a steel Buffalo - about the size of a chest freezer, the kid can ping the Buffalo accurately all day long from any position. The long range accuracy of the Mauser (mines a 24/47) is not surprising since it was designed to pick off the enemy at 400 Yards
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02-23-2010, 08:54 AM
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#53 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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hey everyone i finally got my brother on the 8mm band wagon but holy crap i never thought he would take in to and extream like he did he came home the other day and said well i bought an 8mm and i thought cool what kind German,Yugo, Turk, ect.... he said nope a Browning ya i thought the same thing (a browning) lol turns out he bought a Browning A-bolt in 325 wsm bullet diameter .323 so that will be cool to go shoot this weekend friggen a box of winchester super X 220 grain round nose cost $38 i just have to make sure i'm behind him when he shoots lol 130 kid with a rifle that kicks like 2 mules = well you get the picture
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03-29-2010, 12:14 PM
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#54 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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hey guys its been a while since my last post but I got a new load for the 8mm this one is a real tack driving hand load I'm using Remington brass with CCI 200 Large Rifle primers with 44.0 grains of IMR4064 with a Sierra 200 grain Match King hollow point boat tail sitting on top and seated to a depth of 3.200 inches now i know all rifles shoot ammo differently but this load out of my K98 was producing 1 inch groups consistently off the bench at 100 yards try it for yourself o BTW i just started converting 30-06 brass to 8mm its not as hard as people make it out to be just read up on it its really very simple and no need for fancy tool just a small pipe cutter ,a trimming lath I use a Lyman and some 30-06 brass and 8mm dies with a couple boxes of 150 grain 8mm bullets just trim to recommended length then form in the 8mm die and then load it then all thats left to do i fire form the case just use the starting load with whatever powder you use and thats it Note the first time firing the bolt might close hard this is normal once fired and resized they are fine P.S. if you have a 30-06 keep the brass in a different place or like i do just use a fine file and smooth of the 30-06 head stamp that way theres no mixing the 2
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03-29-2010, 12:43 PM
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#55 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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I only shoot 200 grain bullets. One rifle loves 46 grains of IMR 4064(MAX charge), the other loves that, and equally, but with another 100 to 150 fps., 49.5 grains of Vihtavouri N150(MAX charge).
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04-08-2010, 01:17 PM
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#56 | | Registered User
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I dont see many people using the barned triple shok bullet,I have got great accuracy from the 180gr,these bullets hit hard and are deadly on whitetails.Barnes just came out with a 160 gr tipped triple shok,I have not loaded them yet ,but i bet they will work as good if not better than the 180's.Does anyone know anywhere to sell m-98 parts?/,I have a bell and carlson priemier thunbhole stock for sale,it is tan with black spiderweb.
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04-08-2010, 01:33 PM
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#57 | | Registered User
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try some 180 or 160 barnes triple shoks 47 gr of IMR 3031 o.a.l 3.200 is what my 98 likes
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04-08-2010, 03:02 PM
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#58 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by jflies | I dont see many people using the barned triple shok bullet,I have got great accuracy from the 180gr,these bullets hit hard and are deadly on whitetails.Barnes just came out with a 160 gr tipped triple shok,I have not loaded them yet ,but i bet they will work as good if not better than the 180's.Does anyone know anywhere to sell m-98 parts?/,I have a bell and carlson priemier thunbhole stock for sale,it is tan with black spiderweb. |
That's because of two total knee replacements on my part have pretty much just turned me into a paper shooter instead of hunter. I have no use for the extra cost of Barnes Bullets. I look for bargains in Benny's Bullet Barn.
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04-08-2010, 10:26 PM
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#59 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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I use Rem 185gr bullets using either 46gr of H4895 or 47gr of IMR4064. These are near max loads so start 10% down and work up. you can also go http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp and find loads. For 185 gr bullets use the starting load data for 180gr bullets and work up. My loads work great on Elk!!
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04-09-2010, 11:45 AM
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#60 | | Firearm Zealot
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I learned early my K98 prefers the heavier bullets. I'm pretty much sold on just using 200 grainers. Mayne if I ever get a Czech or Turk, I'll experiment some more.
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