03-21-2009, 05:56 PM
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#41 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by gashog  | Airweight38,
I also have the Lee Deluxe Pistol Die Set for 38 Special, I use them on a Lee turret press. I setup my dies for reloading 38 Special. Then I made (2) .130" thick spacers on my lathe. When reloading 357's I put a .130" spacer under the Expander Die and the Bullet Set Die and with a minor adjustment to the Crimp/Post Size die I'm good to go with reloading 357's. If you would like a set of these spacers let me know, I would be glad to make you some. | RCBS includes a spacer in their .38/.357 die sets, but only one, go figure. Kind of a pain when you're using a turret press.
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03-22-2009, 08:20 AM
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#42 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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jtuck,
How thick is the spacer that you got with your RCBS .130 or .135 or something else? If you would like some more just let me know the dimensions you want and I'll turn some out for you and drop them in the mail. RCBS probably makes thiers out of steel, I use aluminum which works fine for a spacer.
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03-24-2009, 07:12 AM
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#43 | | Firearm Zealot
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The spacer that came with the dies is .128" thick with an ID of .879" and an OD of 1.250". Thanks man, that would be great.
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04-04-2009, 04:26 PM
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#44 | | Firearm Zealot
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Gashog's just an allright guy, you know? Here's the spacers he made me. I've been loading a bunch of .38 spl, so I haven't had a chance to try them out yet. 
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04-05-2009, 09:58 AM
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#45 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Glad to help you out. Beings they are at the same thickness as the RCBS's they should be fine, but let me know if you need them a few thousands thicker. If you want them thinner, just lay a piece of fine sand paper on your bench top and sand the thickness. You can quickly remove a few thousands so don't get too aggressive.
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06-10-2009, 06:19 PM
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#46 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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356 dia bullets are for 9 mm . i am sittin here lookin' at a box ,now for the 38 and 357 they should be 358dia.. at least in cast bullets i'm loadin' right now.. better double check those bullets dia's and get yer'self a couple good reloadin' manuals to go by. be safe .... not sorry 
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08-17-2009, 03:49 PM
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#47 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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1/4 of and inch
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08-17-2009, 03:54 PM
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#48 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by Mike Franklin | Some of the older Colts, from the 60s and 70s had real tight bores. Pythons especially, .355 to .356 was found on occasion but not frequently. The old target shooters I knew liked that tight barrel they would actually take calipers to gun shows and check for a tighter bore. S&W tended to be .357 to .358. | 355 is 9mm
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11-02-2009, 10:37 PM
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#49 | | Registered User
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Just call me eccentric...but for under $30 I went ahead and got another set of dies for 38/357 and now have a set adjusted soley for 357 and the other for various 38 spcl. bullets types.
I do have a puzzling question...using a Blackhawk in 357...using a Lee manual...I loaded a batch of 125 gr. JHP with 18.5 gr. of W296 using magnum primers OAL 1.450"...out of 10 rounds I had 2 that went "click" with the bullet lodged 1/4" into the bore and powder all over the front of the cylinder. Powder was new and primers were fresh...any ideas?????
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12-30-2009, 02:13 PM
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#50 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Madmex you got some bad primers.
When loading for the 357 I bump the bullet weight up to 158 gr. Loading hot 125 gr tends to play havoc with the forcing cone on most revolvers. The velocity reduction doen't effect the energy enough to make any differance.
I have gotten into the habit of reducing the max charge in the book by at least .5 grns. I was out at the range last wekend with some older reloads and found some that were HOT. The muzzle blast was impressive and the brass hard to remove from the cyclinder.
I wasted one .38 revolver with hot loads. The cyclinder has a slight bulge. Thats when I started loading below max.
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01-04-2010, 10:28 PM
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#51 | | Registered User
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So if the .357 bullet is .358, why isn't the .38 a .380 diameter? all other decimal calibers coinside with their diameter.
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04-07-2010, 09:40 AM
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#52 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by DAC596 | So if the .357 bullet is .358, why isn't the .38 a .380 diameter? all other decimal calibers coinside with their diameter. | Read post #26 in this thread by deadzero
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04-14-2010, 06:09 PM
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#53 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by DAC596 | So if the .357 bullet is .358, why isn't the .38 a .380 diameter? all other decimal calibers coinside with their diameter. | ...and to the eternal consternation of folks new to guns, a .380 Auto cartridge uses bullets of .356 diameter....
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03-21-2011, 01:15 AM
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#54 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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I used to know an old mule farmer who used to run traps. He would reload his .38s with one of those Lee nut cracker jobs and never used a scale to measure his powder. He'd take a nickel and draw a bunch of circles on a sheet of paper then fill the circles with shotgun powder. He'd scrap the powder off the paper with a playing card into another folded playing card and then dump it into a primed cartridge. He said he had an eye for reloading. I questioned him about his practices. Basically he told me to mind my own business although his response had something to do with my Dad's Dad's bodily fluids and such.
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03-21-2011, 08:00 AM
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#55 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by sagehopper | Just a 10th of an inch. Reg primers for .38, or .357. Large pistols too big. Bullets are interchangeable, but if you go cheap, lead ones with gaschecks work well for this calibre. If you don't use gascheck, the barrel gets a bit cruddy pretty fast. Carbide dies are great if you can afford them. I like to use Unique for both, but watch the weight carefully. Don't get too adventurous. I have a nickle plated SW 586, and it is plenty strong, but I still treat it like my baby. |
i have used both gas checks and plain based slugs in my reloads for for over 50 years and mostly use p.b. (cheap) never had leading.
i think the secret not leading is 3 things
1 lead hardness the lead dont have to be super hard but should match the speed you want .
2 good lube
3 right sized bullets
after youshoot the S.W. you MAY not see the need to get the Ruger
AND I LOVE THE RUGERS
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03-21-2011, 01:46 PM
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#56 | | Firearm Zealot
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you can push wheel weight lead to about 1,300 fps, so I have read.
getting the bullet sized correctly is #1
I cast Wheel weight lead and have pushed 140 gr. LSWC with 17 gr. of Win. 296 out of my .357 Ruger Security Six with no leading issues (cant find the chrony data right now, but it was running close to 1,200 fps). I use the Lyman Molly Lube and I don't even quench harden.
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06-03-2011, 01:17 PM
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06-26-2011, 11:46 AM
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#58 | | Learn or else!
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Originally Posted by captainbob | ...and to the eternal consternation of folks new to guns, a .380 Auto cartridge uses bullets of .356 diameter.... | ... and is also known as the 9mm Kurtz or Short. Then there's the 9mm Makarov, which measures .362 inches while other 9mms are .355 or .356 inch diameter bullets.
And we don't even want to talk about .429, .451, etc. and some of the names that go with cartridges that use them.
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08-21-2011, 11:04 AM
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#59 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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doo00OODz i think the difference is teh .357 is like way more powerful than ah .38 special.
Do i win?
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08-21-2011, 11:47 AM
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#60 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by Zapp Branigan | doo00OODz i think the difference is teh .357 is like way more powerful than ah .38 special.
Do i win? | You would if it wasn't for the predecessor to the .357 Magnum, the .38/44 HV. That .38 Special pushed a cast 173gr bullet 100 fps faster than present .357 Mag 158gr loads. And some folks still don't believe the Magnum has been watered down in recent years.
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