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Old 04-24-2009, 08:49 PM   #1
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Lightening a load?

I know when making a load hotter you increase a little at a time. I want to decrease a 9mm load. My Keltec hurts my hand and wanted to reload some really light loads to practice with. I don't want to go so low that the bullet gets stuck in my barrel. Should I just not go lower than the recipe calls for? Is there a safe way to decrease? I'll be using 147 grain F.P. cast bullits with tight group powder and Winchester primers. If you have any light recipes that you use and want to share it would be appreciated. Thanks Pontiacdm
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Old 04-24-2009, 08:53 PM   #2
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im using 47 g in my .30-06 when the start load is 53g. its actually very accurate at 125 yard. im not sure im handgun loads are any different when it comes to this. Just trying to help
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Old 04-24-2009, 11:26 PM   #3
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You can go to a different powder but if tightgroup is all you have just go to minimum load. sam.
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Old 04-25-2009, 01:16 AM   #4
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You'll have to go helluva low before you'll get a squib stuck in the barrel and if you did, it wouldn't cycle the action so the gun tells you things are not right.

As Sam says, maybe you could look at other powders.
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Old 04-25-2009, 10:39 PM   #5
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Thanks for the advice. I'll try the minimum load first and see how that feels. Thanks
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Old 04-25-2009, 10:46 PM   #6
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Easiest way to lower recoil is to go to a lighter bullet. try 115 gr or maybe you can find a 90 gr.
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Old 04-25-2009, 11:00 PM   #7
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Easiest way to lower recoil is to go to a lighter bullet. try 115 gr or maybe you can find a 90 gr.
Why is it the easiest solution is the hardest to see? Thank you
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Old 04-26-2009, 01:30 PM   #8
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You'll have to go helluva low before you'll get a squib stuck in the barrel and if you did, it wouldn't cycle the action so the gun tells you things are not right.

As Sam says, maybe you could look at other powders.
He's right. Your pistol will quit cycling before you get into stuck bullet territory.
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Old 04-26-2009, 01:38 PM   #9
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He's right. Your pistol will quit cycling before you get into stuck bullet territory.

I Know I'm right!!!!!........................................ ...Doesn't happen often and I've only done one thing right since I married (according to she who must be obeyed)!
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Old 04-27-2009, 06:39 AM   #10
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I hate to disagree, especially when its with someone who is definitely more knowledgeable than I am, but I actually had a bullet get stuck in the barrel and the action cycled. The only thing that kept me from blowing the pistol (and myself probably) up, was that the bullet stuck close enough in that the next round wouldn't fully chamber, and the slide stuck back just enough to keep the weapon from firing.
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Old 04-27-2009, 06:50 AM   #11
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I stand corrected, I apologise for my rash statement.
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I'd try the lighter bullet idea too. 147 grain is at the top of the weight for a 9MM. Maybe pick up a box of factory loads in 115 Grain to try. If that hwlps then load your own 115 Grains. This will give you more speed and less recoil.
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:09 AM   #13
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yes, it can happen. somewhere i have pictures from years ago of a 1911 that ejected the case on a squb and chambered the next round. both frame and slide were destroyed when the hammer dropped.
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I'd try the lighter bullet idea too. 147 grain is at the top of the weight for a 9MM. Maybe pick up a box of factory loads in 115 Grain to try. If that hwlps then load your own 115 Grains. This will give you more speed and less recoil.
+1, best idea yet. light load 115's and it should turn into a powder puff for practice ammo.
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:19 AM   #15
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I'll let you guys know when I try it. Thanks
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I stand corrected, I apologise for my rash statement.
Don't worry, it happens to the best of us! I was actually proven wrong once or twice last year.

Just kidding, it's not very often that I'm actually right. I just come to learn.
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The only way I can see an auto=loader cycling with a bullet stuck would be if the delayed release was releasing prematurely. (or if it were a cheap gun and didn't have a delayed release.A lot of pistols the delay isn't set proper and people don't know it but wonder why the action slams clear back so hard.It won't if the recoil spring is right and the delay is proper.OHL should have said "a pistol set up right and functioning properly will fail to cycle before a bullet will stick." sam.
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I hate it when you stick up for me Sam! Also hate having to agree with you! But you're right again.
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Don't worry, it happens to the best of us! I was actually proven wrong once or twice last year.

Just kidding, it's not very often that I'm actually right. I just come to learn.
+ 1 One of Winston Churchill's famous quotes: "I've only been wrong once in my life. I thought I made a mistake but it turned out I hadn't."
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The only way I can see an auto=loader cycling with a bullet stuck would be if the delayed release was releasing prematurely. (or if it were a cheap gun and didn't have a delayed release.A lot of pistols the delay isn't set proper and people don't know it but wonder why the action slams clear back so hard.It won't if the recoil spring is right and the delay is proper.OHL should have said "a pistol set up right and functioning properly will fail to cycle before a bullet will stick." sam.
So I'll show my ignorance yet again:

Sam, can you explain the delayed release to me? The pistol was a Para-Ordnance, so I don't think it would be considered a "cheap gun". I googled "delayed release mechanism" but couldn't find any explanations that I could understand.
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