35 and 40 grain 223 loads

Doglips · 02-18-2004, 03:01 PM

Was looking at that new Ruger 204cal thats comeing out...uses a 35grain Vmax bullet at 4000+ fps.....Noticed Hornaday makes 34 and 40grain V-max in 223 calaber and some internex loading data shows 4000 + fps .....Has anyone tried any of these super light bullets?? Any luck with them?? Can anyone think of any problems useing them in a 1-12 twist rifle (NEF) ARs are 1-9 twist so ment for heaver bullets....

BattleRifleG3 · 02-18-2004, 03:29 PM

I myself would use the 223 caliber bullets since the wider cross sectional area means more force, and more acceleration for the same bullet weight.

jerry · 02-19-2004, 08:31 AM

someone went to the trouble to engineer the projectile, create load data and test it. I'd say it's worth a shot, no pun intended. The bullet Mfg. Should be able to give info on twist rates etc. most have a help line or net site.

Shaun · 02-19-2004, 09:20 AM

Jerry the 204 is the go between round that ruger made up to be half the point from the 17 rem. which was popular for a short period of time and then fell off. the 17 rem. used the 20 grain bullet that is used in the hmr. My personal choice is to wait and see it might be a good conversion for the AR if the round is a hit but I am staying with the 223 with a 40 grain for my speed required work

BattleRifleG3 · 02-19-2004, 09:25 AM

The question is will the in between round have the advantages of both or the advantages of neither?

Shaun · 02-19-2004, 10:15 AM

The way I look at it BRG if you can already get 40 grain bullets for the 223 you might as well go for it and push the round the same as the 204. Plus your the numbers guy would you not want the bullet with the highest sectional density .204v.223

BattleRifleG3 · 02-19-2004, 03:04 PM

I suppose it's a tradeoff between sectional density and maximum energy and momentum. If I wanted most sec-dens I'd go for 17 cal, though in reality I can't think of anything I'd really need below 22 cal for, though I might consider a 17 HMR some day. I guess it's all about what you want. It would be interesting if Ruger chambers their Mini-14 in their new cartridge.

02-18-2004, 03:01 PM	#1
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,089	35 and 40 grain 223 loads Was looking at that new Ruger 204cal thats comeing out...uses a 35grain Vmax bullet at 4000+ fps.....Noticed Hornaday makes 34 and 40grain V-max in 223 calaber and some internex loading data shows 4000 + fps .....Has anyone tried any of these super light bullets?? Any luck with them?? Can anyone think of any problems useing them in a 1-12 twist rifle (NEF) ARs are 1-9 twist so ment for heaver bullets....

02-18-2004, 03:29 PM	#2
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	I myself would use the 223 caliber bullets since the wider cross sectional area means more force, and more acceleration for the same bullet weight. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

02-19-2004, 08:31 AM	#3
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,870 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	someone went to the trouble to engineer the projectile, create load data and test it. I'd say it's worth a shot, no pun intended. The bullet Mfg. Should be able to give info on twist rates etc. most have a help line or net site. __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck

02-19-2004, 09:20 AM	#4
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,592 Images: 1	Jerry the 204 is the go between round that ruger made up to be half the point from the 17 rem. which was popular for a short period of time and then fell off. the 17 rem. used the 20 grain bullet that is used in the hmr. My personal choice is to wait and see it might be a good conversion for the AR if the round is a hit but I am staying with the 223 with a 40 grain for my speed required work __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

02-19-2004, 09:25 AM	#5
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	The question is will the in between round have the advantages of both or the advantages of neither? __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

02-19-2004, 10:15 AM	#6
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,592 Images: 1	The way I look at it BRG if you can already get 40 grain bullets for the 223 you might as well go for it and push the round the same as the 204. Plus your the numbers guy would you not want the bullet with the highest sectional density .204v.223 __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

02-19-2004, 03:04 PM	#7
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	I suppose it's a tradeoff between sectional density and maximum energy and momentum. If I wanted most sec-dens I'd go for 17 cal, though in reality I can't think of anything I'd really need below 22 cal for, though I might consider a 17 HMR some day. I guess it's all about what you want. It would be interesting if Ruger chambers their Mini-14 in their new cartridge. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf