22/250 70 grain bullet

[Tipadoux]

I wanted to use my 22.250 for Deer especially when hunting feeding or slow moving deer from 50 to 150 yards or so. Realizing that most factory 22/250 rifles were set up on a 1/14 twist I thought it would be hard to really stablize any bullet heavier than 60 grains or so. Savage puts out rifles with 1/12 and 1/9 twist which really help alot with the heavier bullets. I found out in one of my old Speer books that Speer made a 70 grain Semi spitzer just for the 22/250 rifles with the 1/14 twist. Since I was shooting a Remington 700 and it has a 1/14 twist, I went to that bullet. I worked up a load for it using Remington case, 210 Federal primer, the Speer bullet and 33.5 grains of IMR 4064 powder.
The weather was bad for testing with the wind blowing but I only had a few days before the season opened so I moved up to 50 yards to test. Shooting in the good breeze I was able to shoot a .250 group. So I left it as is and went hunting. I shot a doe at 75 yards through the neck and it was down and out! I plan on working on the load a bit more but man it works well and no recoil at all. I found out later that the 60 grain Hornady works real well, mushrooms good and kills quick. To read abut the ultiment in .224 rifles go to the Texas Trophy hunter web sight and read about the TTH rifle.

[dave375hh]

You should try the 60gr Nosler Partition, or 53gr Barnes X bullets. The TTH is over shadowed by the .22 CHeatha MkII, which is the .308 BR case necked to .224 with a 40 Deg. shoulder. The TTH case is a smaller 6MM Remington necked down.

[Tipadoux]

I always wanted a wild cat using the .308 case and the .224 bullet. But the total case length of the .308 is 2.015 and the 6MM is 2.233. The .308 is tapered from .470 to .455 at the shoulder and that length is 1.560. The 6MM tapers from .471 to .431 and that length is 1.725. Also it's total length from the base to the end of the neck is 2.233. The .308's total length is 2.035.
case capacity is 3.48 on the 6mm and 3.32 on the .308.

[BattleRifleG3]

If this is basically a 224-308 round, what sets it apart from the 22-250?

[Otter]

Look at the 1;12 twist, good for bullets in the 55 grain range, but fails to stabalize 62 grain bullets. not much of a problem up to 90 yards, but then the bullets start to wander. I would think that the 1;14 twist would have a similar effect and lean toward the bullets less than 55 grain. I saw a friend shooting my 1972 SP1 with a 1:12 twist couldn't place all the bullets on the paper at 100 yards with M855 ball 62 grain, when we switched to 55 grain ball he was able to put all the bullets in the black at the same range with the SP1.

"Life is too important to be taken seriously."

[Tipadoux]

I am not concerned about some $2000.00 rifle outshooting some other rifle. I didn't post this to say I was the best shooter in the world or my 22/250 was the best. It will knock the running gear out from under a deer at 300 yards with out any problem so it works for me at $359.00 for the Remington 700 ADL. Speer developed the 70 grain semi spitzer just for the older 1 /14 twist. This was before the 1/12, 9, 8, etc. It works real well in the 1/14 rifles and also the 60 grain Hornady. Hey, buy what ever you want and spend as much as you want but I will down all the deer I want with what I have. Good shooting!

[Otter]

I agree, The best shooting rifle I've ever owned is my Savage model 10FP-LE2 in 7.62X51 with the Accu-Trigger. just under $500.00.

"Life is too important to be taken seriously."

[Tipadoux]

:nod: Yep the Savage is a very good rifle for the price. I shot one with the accru trigger for the first time last week. It pulled real well. I have a new never shot .223 Stevens made by Savage that I traded for. It has the barrel floated and adjustable trigger and a 1/9 twist all from the factory for about $300.00! You understand what I mean Otter. I grew up hunting in Western Colorado and shot to eat. So it was expected that the boys bring in meat each year for the long winter. We used the old Winchester model 94 for everything. For me and the way I hunt the 22/250 will down all I want to. I really don't need but a couple deer a year anyway.

[Otter]

After some reading I found that the .22-250 with a 1:14 twist will spin the 70 grain bullet quite well because of the amount of power it provides. Much more power than the .223 Rem.

"Life is too important to be taken seriously."

[Tipadoux]

Yeah you are right Otter the 22/250 is quite a bit more powerful than the .223. Both are good small arms and both can support real good groups but the 22/250 takes over at about 300 yards and keeps whistling along. if a person was hunting at 50-75 yards on feeding deer and using head shots the .223 55 grain FMJ works great. But a deer out a ways can be downed fast in the neck or behind the shoulder with the extra energy and heavier bullets the 22/250 can shoot. What I found out was by shooting in the summer every week, the aim point becomes a lot smaller and the missing gone. When concentrate on a 1" circle at 100 yards and work to fill that circle each time, then when you pull down on a deer it comes natural to shoot a well placed shot. I have seen many who shoot only in hunting season and have to have a 30/06 at 100 yards to hope they hit the deer some where so they can at least track them, used to be there, used to be that stupid too! It is all up to what each one wants to do anyway, but I have been in both places-first when I was shooting 2.5" groups, jerking and hoping I hit the target, and now shooting .500. If some of the people who think you need a 300 magnum or a 375 H&H would spend one summer shooting every week, something like a 22/250 it would change thier thinking about small caliber rifles. But you have to learn how to really shoot first and that summer would do it, it did it fo r me!

[Tipadoux]

Forgot to mention that I nailed a deer last week with the 22/250 and the 70 grain bullet at about 85 yards. Shot down from stand through the neck, down through the heat and lungs. Instant drop and death.