primer difference

SignorSchnitzel · 04-01-2007, 03:42 PM

hi guys
could someone explain the difference between boxer and berdan primed?

thanks

billy · 04-01-2007, 05:47 PM

found this elswhere on the web:The Boxer priming system, invented by the British ordnance officer of the same name, is the method primarily used in the U.S. for getting the primer's spark through the case head to the propellant charge inside the cartridge case. The Boxer primer uses a three legged inverted anvil on top of the volatile priming compound to provide resistance against the firing pin, or striker, to crush the compound and cause it to explode. The spark travels through a single, centered flash hole in the case head to ignite the propellant ("powder" is a word I dislike; it rightfully should only be used in reference to black powder, not modern smokeless). The Berdan priming system, developed by the American ordnance officer of the same name, is the accepted priming method in Europe and other parts of the world. Instead of the anvil being a component of the primer it is an integral part of the formed cartridge case; a pointy brass formation inside the primer pocket. Another difference is that two flash holes are used to conduct the spark to the propellant. Berdan primers cannot be used to primer Boxer type cases and Berdan primers cannot be used to prime Boxer type cases.

DWARREN123 · 04-01-2007, 07:57 PM

Crazy isn't it, create in the USA and used everywhere but. Create in England and used here.

SignorSchnitzel · 04-01-2007, 09:21 PM

so it sounds like u cant reload berdan primers?

DWARREN123 · 04-01-2007, 10:37 PM

You can reload Berdan primers but harder than anything I would want to try.

Big Dog · 04-02-2007, 04:47 AM

When picking up brass, we follow the following rule:
"One hole, good to go! Snake eyes - toss it!"

toolman · 04-02-2007, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SignorSchnitzel

so it sounds like u cant reload berdan primers?

You can reload berdan cases but it is extremely time-consuming and berdan primers are very hard to find. The last time I heard, there was only one source for berdan primers in the U.S.

gandog56 · 04-05-2007, 06:33 PM

Yep, not worth the effort.

Xterminator · 04-07-2007, 07:54 AM

I collect range brass for my own use, and to sell. I relegate all Berdan cases to my scrap bucket, which I sell for $1.00 per # at a local scrap yard.

gandog56 · 04-26-2007, 12:29 PM

Then of course, you have the problem of crimped on boxers!

billy · 04-26-2007, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandog56

Then of course, you have the problem of crimped on boxers!

ouch! sounds painful!

gandog56 · 05-22-2007, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

ouch! sounds painful!

Like Hemmorhoids, or however you spell it.

ezearln · 05-22-2007, 12:38 PM

Owwie, sounds worse than starched boxers

04-01-2007, 03:42 PM	#1
SignorSchnitzel Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 79	primer difference hi guys could someone explain the difference between boxer and berdan primed? thanks

04-01-2007, 07:57 PM	#3
DWARREN123 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BETWEEN TN & KY Posts: 773	Crazy isn't it, create in the USA and used everywhere but. Create in England and used here. __________________ Have a nice day!

04-01-2007, 10:37 PM	#5
DWARREN123 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: BETWEEN TN & KY Posts: 773	You can reload Berdan primers but harder than anything I would want to try. __________________ Have a nice day! Last edited by DWARREN123; 04-06-2007 at 08:47 AM.

04-02-2007, 04:47 AM	#6
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,201	When picking up brass, we follow the following rule: "One hole, good to go! Snake eyes - toss it!" __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

05-22-2007, 12:38 PM	#13
ezearln Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 3,175	Owwie, sounds worse than starched boxers __________________ "You can have my Freedom when I'm done with it!"

04-01-2007, 05:47 PM	#2
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 11,924 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 145	found this elswhere on the web:The Boxer priming system, invented by the British ordnance officer of the same name, is the method primarily used in the U.S. for getting the primer's spark through the case head to the propellant charge inside the cartridge case. The Boxer primer uses a three legged inverted anvil on top of the volatile priming compound to provide resistance against the firing pin, or striker, to crush the compound and cause it to explode. The spark travels through a single, centered flash hole in the case head to ignite the propellant ("powder" is a word I dislike; it rightfully should only be used in reference to black powder, not modern smokeless). The Berdan priming system, developed by the American ordnance officer of the same name, is the accepted priming method in Europe and other parts of the world. Instead of the anvil being a component of the primer it is an integral part of the formed cartridge case; a pointy brass formation inside the primer pocket. Another difference is that two flash holes are used to conduct the spark to the propellant. Berdan primers cannot be used to primer Boxer type cases and Berdan primers cannot be used to prime Boxer type cases.

04-01-2007, 09:21 PM	#4
SignorSchnitzel Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 79	so it sounds like u cant reload berdan primers?

04-05-2007, 06:33 PM	#8
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 4,181	Yep, not worth the effort.

04-07-2007, 07:54 AM	#9
Xterminator Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 16	I collect range brass for my own use, and to sell. I relegate all Berdan cases to my scrap bucket, which I sell for $1.00 per # at a local scrap yard.

04-26-2007, 12:29 PM	#10
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 4,181	Then of course, you have the problem of crimped on boxers!