Handloading

daruse · 08-09-2007, 08:47 PM

I just got a new 270wsm and i reload my shells. r-p 270wsm cases cci primers 140gr imr 4350 powder and 270 cal 140 gr sst leds. Can some one please tell me why my fireing pin is going thru the primers and leaving a hole in them when there are seated all the way>> .. daruse

Bravo · 08-09-2007, 09:23 PM

Ack...I am not help on this subject...but I'm sure someone here can help you.

Welcome to the forums...I wish we could have met on better terms

Good luck getting that issue fixed.

lefty o · 08-09-2007, 10:29 PM

how many grains of powder are you using?

toolman · 08-09-2007, 10:33 PM

According to Hodgdon's website, the MAX powder charge is around 58 gr. If that 140 grains isn't a typo, you're lucky to be alive and in one piece right now. www.hodgdon.com

lefty o · 08-09-2007, 11:04 PM

definately not 140grns of powder, it wont fit in the case. peirced primers are typically caused by severely under powered loads. have you fired any factory loaded ammunition in this rifle?

hornady lists 140gr sst's with imr 4350 at 53.4gr minimum, and 58.6gr maximum.

ArkansasHunter · 08-10-2007, 09:54 AM

daruse WELCOME TO GUN and GAME !!! Looking forward to hearing from you.
Enjoy the site feller ...A.H

JoeLee · 08-10-2007, 11:03 AM

Do you have a loading manual and scale?

Cyrille · 08-10-2007, 12:27 PM

Mr. you'd better either get out of the reloading game and buy factory ammo or buy yourself a darn good reloading manuel and follow it to the letter. You'd best thank the powder god those loads you mention didn't blow up your rifle and you along with it! Fact of the matter is now that your rifle has survived such an overload, take it to a competent gunsmith and have it checked out! I'd be afraid to fire it again even with factory ammo. This is first I've heard of someone loading 140grs. of any smokeless powder and living to tell of it. I don't know, but I don't think the 700 nitro takes anywhere near that much powder and that's the most powerful rifle on the planet.

lefty o · 08-10-2007, 02:49 PM

like i said, 140gr of powder wont fit in the case, he must have made a typo.

daruce · 08-10-2007, 05:48 PM

on www.hodgdon.com for 140 it says 60.5 max Grains and in the book. And thats what i loaded them too.

daruce · 08-10-2007, 06:26 PM

I looked in the book and on the web site and they both say that i can reload up to 60.5 gr for my 270wsm so it cant be the powder...

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Originally Posted by daruce

I looked in the book and on the web site and they both say that i can reload up to 60.5 gr for my 270wsm so it cant be the powder...

im shooting 140 shells with 60.5 powder...lol

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Originally Posted by lefty o

how many grains of powder are you using?

im using 60.5 imr

burd1959 · 08-10-2007, 07:27 PM

i got to see a typo but i would go with the manufactures advice and in the fine print you will notice it says starting the load sould be on the low side buy some factory ammo and see if you still have this problem then i would work from there to make shur its not the weapon and pin being to long then work up your load

toolman · 08-10-2007, 08:58 PM

60.5 is still a max load. Try backing it down and see what happens.

Deersniper · 08-10-2007, 11:57 PM

Glad it was a typo. Get some reloading books from IMR and start with the smallest load and work up. Change primers. Get a tutor. Welcome and be sure that charge is correct every time. One Squib or overcharge WILL ruin your day. Blown gun, bodily injury, hospital, police report, mental evaluation. NOT GOOD. Find some one who reloads.

rfc357 · 08-13-2007, 08:17 PM

Wow, you started with the max load? Read the loading manual. The words up front. Again.

Cyrille · 08-13-2007, 08:50 PM

Never, never, never start with a maximum load. 9X out of ten it isn't the most accurate and it could possably damage your firearm. Start with the lightest recomended load in a good reloading manual and work up in small increments till you find the most accurate load with those components. Then if you want to experment futher. I repeat Never, start reloading with the maximum load!

Big&Tall · 08-17-2007, 12:23 PM

Make sure your case overall length is within specs. Do you have problems closing the bolt on a live round or opening it after firing? Check to see if your primers are fully seated also.

08-09-2007, 08:47 PM	#1
daruse Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: wildwood alberta canada Posts: 2	Handloading I just got a new 270wsm and i reload my shells. r-p 270wsm cases cci primers 140gr imr 4350 powder and 270 cal 140 gr sst leds. Can some one please tell me why my fireing pin is going thru the primers and leaving a hole in them when there are seated all the way>> .. daruse

08-09-2007, 10:33 PM	#4
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,582 Blog Entries: 22	According to Hodgdon's website, the MAX powder charge is around 58 gr. If that 140 grains isn't a typo, you're lucky to be alive and in one piece right now. www.hodgdon.com __________________ Don't be messin' with my gun!

08-09-2007, 11:04 PM	#5
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,807	definately not 140grns of powder, it wont fit in the case. peirced primers are typically caused by severely under powered loads. have you fired any factory loaded ammunition in this rifle? hornady lists 140gr sst's with imr 4350 at 53.4gr minimum, and 58.6gr maximum. Last edited by lefty o; 08-09-2007 at 11:06 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

08-10-2007, 05:48 PM	#10
daruce Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: wildwood alberta canada Posts: 5	reloads on www.hodgdon.com for 140 it says 60.5 max Grains and in the book. And thats what i loaded them too.

08-10-2007, 08:58 PM	#13
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,582 Blog Entries: 22	60.5 is still a max load. Try backing it down and see what happens. __________________ Don't be messin' with my gun!

08-09-2007, 09:23 PM	#2
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,899	Ack...I am not help on this subject...but I'm sure someone here can help you. Welcome to the forums...I wish we could have met on better terms Good luck getting that issue fixed.

08-09-2007, 10:29 PM	#3
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,807	how many grains of powder are you using?

08-10-2007, 09:54 AM	#6
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,715	daruse WELCOME TO GUN and GAME !!! Looking forward to hearing from you. Enjoy the site feller ...A.H

08-10-2007, 11:03 AM	#7
JoeLee Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North New York State. Posts: 1,241	Do you have a loading manual and scale?

08-10-2007, 12:27 PM	#8
Cyrille Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 1,851	Mr. you'd better either get out of the reloading game and buy factory ammo or buy yourself a darn good reloading manuel and follow it to the letter. You'd best thank the powder god those loads you mention didn't blow up your rifle and you along with it! Fact of the matter is now that your rifle has survived such an overload, take it to a competent gunsmith and have it checked out! I'd be afraid to fire it again even with factory ammo. This is first I've heard of someone loading 140grs. of any smokeless powder and living to tell of it. I don't know, but I don't think the 700 nitro takes anywhere near that much powder and that's the most powerful rifle on the planet.

08-10-2007, 02:49 PM	#9
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,807	like i said, 140gr of powder wont fit in the case, he must have made a typo.

08-10-2007, 07:27 PM	#12
burd1959 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: burton michigan Posts: 606	i got to see a typo but i would go with the manufactures advice and in the fine print you will notice it says starting the load sould be on the low side buy some factory ammo and see if you still have this problem then i would work from there to make shur its not the weapon and pin being to long then work up your load

08-10-2007, 11:57 PM	#14
Deersniper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,691	Phew! Glad it was a typo. Get some reloading books from IMR and start with the smallest load and work up. Change primers. Get a tutor. Welcome and be sure that charge is correct every time. One Squib or overcharge WILL ruin your day. Blown gun, bodily injury, hospital, police report, mental evaluation. NOT GOOD. Find some one who reloads.

08-13-2007, 08:17 PM	#15
rfc357 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 741	Wow, you started with the max load? Read the loading manual. The words up front. Again.

08-13-2007, 08:50 PM	#16
Cyrille Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 1,851	Never, never, never start with a maximum load. 9X out of ten it isn't the most accurate and it could possably damage your firearm. Start with the lightest recomended load in a good reloading manual and work up in small increments till you find the most accurate load with those components. Then if you want to experment futher. I repeat Never, start reloading with the maximum load!

08-17-2007, 12:23 PM	#17
Big&Tall Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: St. Petersburg Posts: 20	Make sure your case overall length is within specs. Do you have problems closing the bolt on a live round or opening it after firing? Check to see if your primers are fully seated also.