safe brass?

billy · 10-31-2007, 06:29 PM

i have a few hundred pieces like this.
my question is.
is the shiny ring pronounced enough to warrant trashing all of it?
all pics are of the same case i was trying to show it as well as i could.
thanks again.
bill

Vintovki · 10-31-2007, 07:08 PM

Billy,
What caliber is the firearm/ammo?

billy · 10-31-2007, 07:31 PM

SilentSoul · 10-31-2007, 07:31 PM

You need Sam to the rescue. I got no clue. But I am gonna thread jack and ask a question.
Can you reload Blazer Brass?

billy · 10-31-2007, 07:33 PM

yes you can

ive got about 800 of these cases

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentSoul

You need Sam to the rescue. I got no clue. But I am gonna thread jack and ask a question.
Can you reload Blazer Brass?

he'll be here any minute and save the day!

samuel · 10-31-2007, 07:53 PM

That ring is right where casing separation takes place at and altho I dont recognise the fancy design it appears to be imbedded and would weaken the case to the point I would not trust it. I would pitch them. As to blazer,it isnt brass,It's aluminum.Cant be reloaded because once it is stretched it stays stretched.Punch blazer ammunition up on the search bar. sam.

toolman · 10-31-2007, 08:20 PM

Sam, fwiw, CCI has started making some of the Blazer ammo in brass, boxer-primed cases.

SilentSoul · 10-31-2007, 08:21 PM

Blazer - Blazer Brass
Say's it is reloadable

Did you think I was talking about Regular Blazer Sam?
This Stuff
58002 - .40 S&W Blazer Centerfire Handgun Cartridge, 165-Grain Total Metal Jacket Flat Nose Bullet, 1100 fps, 50 Rounds Per Box - Manufactured by: CCI\Speer

lefty o · 10-31-2007, 08:36 PM

id be very nervous about using the pictured brass. you just cant see where a seperation is going to happen.

samuel · 10-31-2007, 08:47 PM

If they have brass cases I emagine it could be reloaded but I didnt see anything but aluminum. sam. I went to the CCI/Blazer website and all they had was aluminum cases and they say they are non reloadable so I will take them at their word.If anyone can prove different I would be intrested.I virtually never buy loaded ammo but I try to keep up on it.

billy · 10-31-2007, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samuel

That ring is right where casing separation takes place at and altho I dont recognise the fancy design it appears to be imbedded and would weaken the case to the point I would not trust it. I would pitch them. As to blazer,it isnt brass,It's aluminum.Cant be reloaded because once it is stretched it stays stretched.Punch blazer ammunition up on the search bar. sam.

ok that stuff is lake city match brass.
i dont know why that design is there bit ....
i went through all of my brass and only about 1 out of 20 doesnt have any sing of the dreaded ring.
thanks bill

here is one that i cut from last time i went shooting.
i didnt even notice until i got home this had happened.
i was using my savage 10-fp.
it is RA 69 match brass.

samuel · 11-01-2007, 06:36 AM

Does the case fit the chamber with nothing in them?Usuallt seoeration problems are on belted mags that seat in the belt and are full length resized or non belted cases fired in a loose chamber and full length resized and trimmed several times.Will look Lake City up. sam.

billy · 11-01-2007, 07:01 AM

yes they fit .
i still dont know what belted means .
linked like for a machinegun?

phoenix79 · 11-01-2007, 07:42 AM

A Belted cartridge has a bit of brass larger than the normal diameter of the case in front of it. Like this:

See that belt toward the bottom?

billy · 11-01-2007, 07:44 AM

i have never even touched one that looks like that.
thanks for the clarification!

samuel · 11-01-2007, 10:19 AM

I cant find much on Lake City Brass except it isnt supposed to be as good as Winchester.They manufacture brass for the military and that is probably why I cant find anything.I still dont know what the mark or ring is but your pictures make me think I wouldnt want to use it.Since they mfg only for military I may never find anything but it hits me they were in with federal somehow.I never used anything but Lapua and Norma for competition but used about anything that I had enough of one kind to make a decent loading session with.Will keep looking. sam.

10-31-2007, 06:29 PM	#1
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 11,970 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	safe brass? i have a few hundred pieces like this. my question is. is the shiny ring pronounced enough to warrant trashing all of it? all pics are of the same case i was trying to show it as well as i could. thanks again. bill __________________ just leave britney ALONE! she's going thru a hard time snivel sniff....WAH

10-31-2007, 07:08 PM	#2
Vintovki Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 139 Images: 3	Billy, What caliber is the firearm/ammo? __________________ "Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est." - Seneca

10-31-2007, 07:31 PM	#3
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 11,970 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	.308 __________________ just leave britney ALONE! she's going thru a hard time snivel sniff....WAH

10-31-2007, 08:20 PM	#7
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,566 Blog Entries: 22	Sam, fwiw, CCI has started making some of the Blazer ammo in brass, boxer-primed cases. __________________ Don't be messin' with my gun!

10-31-2007, 08:47 PM	#10
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	If they have brass cases I emagine it could be reloaded but I didnt see anything but aluminum. sam. I went to the CCI/Blazer website and all they had was aluminum cases and they say they are non reloadable so I will take them at their word.If anyone can prove different I would be intrested.I virtually never buy loaded ammo but I try to keep up on it. Last edited by samuel; 10-31-2007 at 09:18 PM.

10-31-2007, 07:31 PM	#4
SilentSoul Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 603 Images: 1	You need Sam to the rescue. I got no clue. But I am gonna thread jack and ask a question. Can you reload Blazer Brass?

10-31-2007, 07:53 PM	#6
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	That ring is right where casing separation takes place at and altho I dont recognise the fancy design it appears to be imbedded and would weaken the case to the point I would not trust it. I would pitch them. As to blazer,it isnt brass,It's aluminum.Cant be reloaded because once it is stretched it stays stretched.Punch blazer ammunition up on the search bar. sam.

10-31-2007, 08:21 PM	#8
SilentSoul Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 603 Images: 1	Blazer - Blazer Brass Say's it is reloadable Did you think I was talking about Regular Blazer Sam? This Stuff 58002 - .40 S&W Blazer Centerfire Handgun Cartridge, 165-Grain Total Metal Jacket Flat Nose Bullet, 1100 fps, 50 Rounds Per Box - Manufactured by: CCI\Speer

10-31-2007, 08:36 PM	#9
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,785	id be very nervous about using the pictured brass. you just cant see where a seperation is going to happen.

11-01-2007, 06:36 AM	#12
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	Does the case fit the chamber with nothing in them?Usuallt seoeration problems are on belted mags that seat in the belt and are full length resized or non belted cases fired in a loose chamber and full length resized and trimmed several times.Will look Lake City up. sam.

11-01-2007, 07:01 AM	#13
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 11,970 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	yes they fit . i still dont know what belted means . linked like for a machinegun? __________________ just leave britney ALONE! she's going thru a hard time snivel sniff....WAH

11-01-2007, 07:42 AM	#14
phoenix79 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 219	A Belted cartridge has a bit of brass larger than the normal diameter of the case in front of it. Like this: See that belt toward the bottom?

11-01-2007, 07:44 AM	#15
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 11,970 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	i have never even touched one that looks like that. thanks for the clarification! __________________ just leave britney ALONE! she's going thru a hard time snivel sniff....WAH

11-01-2007, 10:19 AM	#16
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	I cant find much on Lake City Brass except it isnt supposed to be as good as Winchester.They manufacture brass for the military and that is probably why I cant find anything.I still dont know what the mark or ring is but your pictures make me think I wouldnt want to use it.Since they mfg only for military I may never find anything but it hits me they were in with federal somehow.I never used anything but Lapua and Norma for competition but used about anything that I had enough of one kind to make a decent loading session with.Will keep looking. sam.