pulled powder comparison

billy · 07-12-2008, 05:35 PM

i have purchased some
russian unique
and 9mm nato powder/A#7
from HI TECH
they both meter very well
the unique is MUCH cleaner!
either one of these powders work very well in any of my handguns.
the unique works out to $11.70 lb. delivered
9mm NATO $9.12 LB. DELIVERED
the UNIQUE is cheaper in the long run because you use less.
i didnt chrono any loads today because ....well i just didnt want to!

jimkim · 07-12-2008, 09:46 PM

Is that the oddest powder you ever seen? What do you think of that smell. It reminds me of the old IMR-4350.

billy · 07-13-2008, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jimkim

Is that the oddest powder you ever seen? What do you think of that smell. It reminds me of the old IMR-4350.

i just loaded it .
i didnt smell it.
yes it is strange looking stuff

jimkim · 07-13-2008, 07:07 AM

I always smell powder when I open it. I guess it has become a habit now. I even do it with brand new powder. Peg walked by the door about the time I was doing it. You should have seen her. hahahaha She shook her head and said, "Daddy sometimes I wonder about you". Hahahaha

gandog56 · 07-13-2008, 01:24 PM

As long as she doesn't catch you snorting it, I guess.

AKHunter · 07-13-2008, 02:07 PM

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I always smell powder when I open it. I guess it has become a habit now. I even do it with brand new powder. Peg walked by the door about the time I was doing it. You should have seen her. hahahaha She shook her head and said, "Daddy sometimes I wonder about you". Hahahaha
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jimkim · 07-13-2008, 04:13 PM

I got into the practice long ago.

From ADI

"All smokeless powders deteriorate chemically as they get older. This rate of deterioration can be accelerated by such things as storage in warm conditions,exposure to other chemicals and exposure to direct sunlight. Any such deterioration may ultimately lead to a fire through spontaneous ignition of the powder. CHECK containers of smokeless powder regularly for possible deterioration through age or inadequate storage. Yearly checks are recommended wherever average daily summer temperatures exceed 30 ºC. Where average daily summer temperatures are usually below 30 ºC checks should be made every two years.

>>> Chemical deterioration of smokeless powder can be recognised by carefully smelling<<<

the contents of the container – any deterioration produces an acrid, acidic odour quite different from the normal sweet smelling odours of ethanol or ether which are usually present. Rusting of metal surfaces exposed to smokeless powder can also indicate deterioration."

GlockMeister · 07-13-2008, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

i just loaded it .
i didnt smell it.
yes it is strange looking stuff

I've never seen it, obviously right. lol So any chance you can post a pic of how strange looking it is? As for the smell, won't be able to do that until the technical ability to share via internet comes about in say what, another 50 or so years? lol

jimkim · 07-13-2008, 04:58 PM

here

GlockMeister · 07-13-2008, 08:56 PM

Thanks. Now the one on the right, based on how funky it looks is the pulled stuff that you say has a not so pleasant odor or aroma? lol

Kind of looks like rabbit food?

jimkim · 07-13-2008, 09:05 PM

It doesn't smell bad it has that oily sweet nitroglycerin smell like the old IMR-4350.

ddhotbot · 07-14-2008, 02:34 PM

i have been using that russian unique from hi tech in my 45acp. shoots great,been loading 5.4 gr under 230gr lead bullet and getting about 850fps. think i need to go get some more.

billy · 07-20-2008, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddhotbot

i have been using that russian unique from hi tech in my 45acp. shoots great,been loading 5.4 gr under 230gr lead bullet and getting about 850fps. think i need to go get some more.

yeah.
i think i should buy another 4 jugs.
that will keep me busy for awhile.

jimkim · 07-20-2008, 11:05 AM

I wish we lived closer. We could throw in together and save some money.

billy · 07-20-2008, 11:08 AM

no kidding.

runfiverun · 07-20-2008, 01:00 PM

the russian looks like sheet flake, really not that uncommon.
fiocchi uses powder like it with little red id'ers in it.

jimkim · 07-20-2008, 01:13 PM

That picture doesn't do it justice. It looks like extruded powder that has been crushed or broken up into smaller pieces to me. When I first saw the pic I thought it looked like the old alcan powder.

billy · 07-20-2008, 01:20 PM

i thought it looked like carpenter ant dookie.

jimkim · 07-20-2008, 01:23 PM

Like I said extruded. lol

gandog56 · 07-20-2008, 01:32 PM

Where do you get this stuff from?

07-12-2008, 05:35 PM	#1
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,147 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	pulled powder comparison i have purchased some russian unique and 9mm nato powder/A#7 from HI TECH they both meter very well the unique is MUCH cleaner! either one of these powders work very well in any of my handguns. the unique works out to $11.70 lb. delivered 9mm NATO $9.12 LB. DELIVERED the UNIQUE is cheaper in the long run because you use less. i didnt chrono any loads today because ....well i just didnt want to! __________________

07-12-2008, 09:46 PM	#2
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near the Little Ocmulgee river in GA Posts: 2,050 Blog Entries: 11	Is that the oddest powder you ever seen? What do you think of that smell. It reminds me of the old IMR-4350. __________________ Jan. 4, 2007...Gasoline $2.10/gallon HMMM? Jim

07-13-2008, 04:58 PM	#9
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near the Little Ocmulgee river in GA Posts: 2,050 Blog Entries: 11	here __________________ Jan. 4, 2007...Gasoline $2.10/gallon HMMM? Jim

07-13-2008, 08:56 PM	#10
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,483	Thanks. Now the one on the right, based on how funky it looks is the pulled stuff that you say has a not so pleasant odor or aroma? lol Kind of looks like rabbit food? __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

07-13-2008, 09:05 PM	#11
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near the Little Ocmulgee river in GA Posts: 2,050 Blog Entries: 11	It doesn't smell bad it has that oily sweet nitroglycerin smell like the old IMR-4350. __________________ Jan. 4, 2007...Gasoline $2.10/gallon HMMM? Jim

07-13-2008, 07:07 AM	#4
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near the Little Ocmulgee river in GA Posts: 2,050 Blog Entries: 11	I always smell powder when I open it. I guess it has become a habit now. I even do it with brand new powder. Peg walked by the door about the time I was doing it. You should have seen her. hahahaha She shook her head and said, "Daddy sometimes I wonder about you". Hahahaha __________________ Jan. 4, 2007...Gasoline $2.10/gallon HMMM? Jim

07-13-2008, 01:24 PM	#5
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 4,321	As long as she doesn't catch you snorting it, I guess.

07-13-2008, 04:13 PM	#7
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near the Little Ocmulgee river in GA Posts: 2,050 Blog Entries: 11	I got into the practice long ago. From ADI "All smokeless powders deteriorate chemically as they get older. This rate of deterioration can be accelerated by such things as storage in warm conditions,exposure to other chemicals and exposure to direct sunlight. Any such deterioration may ultimately lead to a fire through spontaneous ignition of the powder. CHECK containers of smokeless powder regularly for possible deterioration through age or inadequate storage. Yearly checks are recommended wherever average daily summer temperatures exceed 30 ºC. Where average daily summer temperatures are usually below 30 ºC checks should be made every two years. >>> Chemical deterioration of smokeless powder can be recognised by carefully smelling<<< the contents of the container – any deterioration produces an acrid, acidic odour quite different from the normal sweet smelling odours of ethanol or ether which are usually present. Rusting of metal surfaces exposed to smokeless powder can also indicate deterioration." __________________ Jan. 4, 2007...Gasoline $2.10/gallon HMMM? Jim

07-14-2008, 02:34 PM	#12
ddhotbot Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8	i have been using that russian unique from hi tech in my 45acp. shoots great,been loading 5.4 gr under 230gr lead bullet and getting about 850fps. think i need to go get some more.

07-20-2008, 11:05 AM	#14
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near the Little Ocmulgee river in GA Posts: 2,050 Blog Entries: 11	I wish we lived closer. We could throw in together and save some money. __________________ Jan. 4, 2007...Gasoline $2.10/gallon HMMM? Jim

07-20-2008, 11:08 AM	#15
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,147 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	no kidding. __________________

07-20-2008, 01:00 PM	#16
runfiverun Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: soda springs idaho Posts: 288	the russian looks like sheet flake, really not that uncommon. fiocchi uses powder like it with little red id'ers in it.

07-20-2008, 01:13 PM	#17
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near the Little Ocmulgee river in GA Posts: 2,050 Blog Entries: 11	That picture doesn't do it justice. It looks like extruded powder that has been crushed or broken up into smaller pieces to me. When I first saw the pic I thought it looked like the old alcan powder. __________________ Jan. 4, 2007...Gasoline $2.10/gallon HMMM? Jim

07-20-2008, 01:20 PM	#18
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,147 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	i thought it looked like carpenter ant dookie. __________________

07-20-2008, 01:23 PM	#19
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near the Little Ocmulgee river in GA Posts: 2,050 Blog Entries: 11	Like I said extruded. lol __________________ Jan. 4, 2007...Gasoline $2.10/gallon HMMM? Jim

07-20-2008, 01:32 PM	#20
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 4,321	Where do you get this stuff from?