yeah but..will they shoot?

billy · 09-14-2008, 05:57 PM

i was given a bunch of these bullets.
i put some in the oven @ 450-460f for about 90 min. and let cool over night.
now they are nice and soft.
i slugged this one down the bore of one of my enfields.
as you can see
it almost fills the bores grooves.
will they work?
lets find out shall we?
i have a good supply of brass and the dies to do the deed with.

Joey l mur · 09-14-2008, 07:42 PM

You need a gas check. If you dont use a gas check the bullet will vaporise befor it can hit a target ten feet from the muzel. It looks like the enfield has only two groves. I had one like that it made one hole groups on cast and FMJ amo however when I used hunting amo It couldn't hit the side of a barn. Hunting amo has a thin jackit that gets over compressed and cut by the rifling it then peals off in flight causing the bullet to lose its trajectory. I cured the problum by neck sizing .308 and not .311. and loading .308 bullets in my cases. I got my one hole groups back.

billy · 09-14-2008, 07:55 PM

at the speeds i am going for a check isn't necessary.
thanks for the tips though!

billy · 09-14-2008, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey l mur

You need a gas check. If you dont use a gas check the bullet will vaporise befor it can hit a target ten feet from the muzel. It looks like the enfield has only two groves. I had one like that it made one hole groups on cast and FMJ amo however when I used hunting amo It couldn't hit the side of a barn. Hunting amo has a thin jackit that gets over compressed and cut by the rifling it then peals off in flight causing the bullet to lose its trajectory. I cured the problum by neck sizing .308 and not .311. and loading .308 bullets in my cases. I got my one hole groups back.

the bullet will VAPORIZE!?!

tagurit · 09-14-2008, 10:34 PM

Should expand more under pressure and maybe fill the rifling grooves.
That is unless they vaporize before they leave the chamber!
What the H##L kinda powder you using to do that anyway?!!

billy · 09-14-2008, 10:39 PM

thats why i never hit anything.
my bullets keep vaporizing!
well
poop
why doesnt anybody TELL me these things?

tagurit · 09-14-2008, 10:42 PM

Maybe you should just throw rocks and send all you guns to me.

jimkim · 09-14-2008, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

the bullet will VAPORIZE!?!

Damifino.

billy · 09-14-2008, 11:07 PM

i think they turn into pixie dust

Mooseman684 · 09-14-2008, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey l mur

You need a gas check. If you dont use a gas check the bullet will vaporise befor it can hit a target ten feet from the muzel. It looks like the enfield has only two groves. I had one like that it made one hole groups on cast and FMJ amo however when I used hunting amo It couldn't hit the side of a barn. Hunting amo has a thin jackit that gets over compressed and cut by the rifling it then peals off in flight causing the bullet to lose its trajectory. I cured the problum by neck sizing .308 and not .311. and loading .308 bullets in my cases. I got my one hole groups back.

The Bullet will WHAT ???? Boy, get off that Crack !!!

Joey l mur · 09-15-2008, 12:44 AM

Load them hot with BLC-2 or Unique I stood ten feet from the target and did not hit a thing.

Mooseman684 · 09-15-2008, 01:32 AM

Lead will not just vaporize...

jimkim · 09-15-2008, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey l mur

Hunting amo has a thin jackit that gets over compressed and cut by the rifling it then peals off in flight causing the bullet to lose its trajectory. I cured the problum by neck sizing .308 and not .311. and loading .308 bullets in my cases. I got my one hole groups back.

Was your rifle made by Savage? It sounds like it had a 0.307 or .308 dia bore and you were HOT loading your ammo to the point of bullet failure.

billy · 09-15-2008, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimkim

Was your rifle made by Savage? It sounds like it had a 0.307 or .308 dia bore and you were HOT loading your ammo to the point of bullet failure.

i bet he used 10 AND A HALF grains of unique instead of the magic 10!

jimkim · 09-15-2008, 08:25 AM

Hahahaha 10.5 will work fine with the 303. It sounds more like 20.

SwedeSteve · 09-15-2008, 10:40 AM

billy- Add a few more grains, and you can get them to time warp, LOL !!

billy · 09-15-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

billy- Add a few more grains, and you can get them to time warp, LOL !!

no i cannot
i musnt
that is in the realm of the gods
there are some things that mere man dare not witness!

well
OK!

billy · 09-15-2008, 02:01 PM

i was all ready to load some up.
i dont have a shellholder in that caliber!
i bought one.
it is on it's way.

Packerfan2600 · 09-15-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tagurit

Maybe you should just throw rocks and send all you guns to me.

I call the 1911 and the Einfield!!!

gandog56 · 09-15-2008, 05:59 PM

Take his Einfield....I want his ENFIELD!

09-14-2008, 05:57 PM	#1
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,236 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	yeah but..will they shoot? i was given a bunch of these bullets. i put some in the oven @ 450-460f for about 90 min. and let cool over night. now they are nice and soft. i slugged this one down the bore of one of my enfields. as you can see it almost fills the bores grooves. will they work? lets find out shall we? i have a good supply of brass and the dies to do the deed with. __________________ "I would never die for my beliefs because what if I'm wrong?"- Bertrand Russell Last edited by billy; 09-14-2008 at 06:03 PM.

09-14-2008, 07:55 PM	#3
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,236 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	at the speeds i am going for a check isn't necessary. thanks for the tips though! __________________ "I would never die for my beliefs because what if I'm wrong?"- Bertrand Russell

09-14-2008, 10:34 PM	#5
tagurit Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Long Island,NY Posts: 659	Should expand more under pressure and maybe fill the rifling grooves. That is unless they vaporize before they leave the chamber! What the H##L kinda powder you using to do that anyway?!! __________________ Lost time is never found again-B.Franklin

09-14-2008, 10:39 PM	#6
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,236 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	thats why i never hit anything. my bullets keep vaporizing! well poop why doesnt anybody TELL me these things? __________________ "I would never die for my beliefs because what if I'm wrong?"- Bertrand Russell

09-14-2008, 10:42 PM	#7
tagurit Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Long Island,NY Posts: 659	Maybe you should just throw rocks and send all you guns to me. __________________ Lost time is never found again-B.Franklin

09-14-2008, 07:42 PM	#2
Joey l mur Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 337 Images: 1	You need a gas check. If you dont use a gas check the bullet will vaporise befor it can hit a target ten feet from the muzel. It looks like the enfield has only two groves. I had one like that it made one hole groups on cast and FMJ amo however when I used hunting amo It couldn't hit the side of a barn. Hunting amo has a thin jackit that gets over compressed and cut by the rifling it then peals off in flight causing the bullet to lose its trajectory. I cured the problum by neck sizing .308 and not .311. and loading .308 bullets in my cases. I got my one hole groups back.

09-14-2008, 11:07 PM	#9
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,236 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	i think they turn into pixie dust __________________ "I would never die for my beliefs because what if I'm wrong?"- Bertrand Russell

09-15-2008, 12:44 AM	#11
Joey l mur Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 337 Images: 1	Load them hot with BLC-2 or Unique I stood ten feet from the target and did not hit a thing.

09-15-2008, 01:32 AM	#12
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,524 Images: 2	Lead will not just vaporize... __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

09-15-2008, 08:25 AM	#15
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near the Little Ocmulgee river in GA Posts: 2,288 Blog Entries: 15	Hahahaha 10.5 will work fine with the 303. It sounds more like 20. __________________ "Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum."

09-15-2008, 10:40 AM	#16
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 12,543 Images: 1	billy- Add a few more grains, and you can get them to time warp, LOL !! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

09-15-2008, 02:01 PM	#18
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,236 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	i was all ready to load some up. i dont have a shellholder in that caliber! i bought one. it is on it's way. __________________ "I would never die for my beliefs because what if I'm wrong?"- Bertrand Russell

09-15-2008, 05:59 PM	#20
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 5,617	Take his Einfield....I want his ENFIELD!