Unintended discharge on flight to Charlotte?

fred · 03-27-2008, 08:58 PM

It appears that the handgun that discharged on the flight into Charlotte was an H&K USP .40 cal. Anybody care to comment? H&K's website describes the weapon as being adaptable from combination safety/decocker to safety only to decocker only. I've never handled one or seen one close up so I don't know what the implications are.

elmer fudd · 03-27-2008, 09:01 PM

so it was on a plane and it fired!!!!!! i didnt think they would let you ship bullets on a plane with your gun!!!!!!

just_a_car · 03-27-2008, 09:07 PM

This was already posted here:

fred · 03-28-2008, 06:59 AM

Yes, I know it was posted. I could understand why a Glock might discharge if it were put back in a holster and the trigger caught something (safe trigger notwithstanding). What I am asking is specific to the H&K: is there something about the design that would possibly cause such a discharge or is it human error?

LarryO1970 · 03-28-2008, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by elmer fudd

so it was on a plane and it fired!!!!!! i didnt think they would let you ship bullets on a plane with your gun!!!!!!

Elmer... it wasn't being shipped, it was a pilot with a permit to carry on the airline. Supposedly, it fired when he was stowing it.

Problem is, his finger should have been nowhere near the trigger and the safety should have been on.

punkndisorderly · 03-28-2008, 09:35 AM

If I'm not mistaken, the H&K USP's can be had in SA/DA, or DAO and can be carried cocked and locked for single action first shot. I would be interested to know how it was that the discharge happened (but have a feeling the media won't go further than "gun on plane go bang"). Perhaps it was in a bag, sans holster, and the combination of a little pushing and an item jammed within the trigger guard was the cause.

rfc357 · 03-28-2008, 10:37 AM

My guess is, the pilot pulled the trigger......

I investigated several "unintentional" discharges while I was in the military, and all involved a finger on the trigger when it should not have been.

samuel · 03-28-2008, 11:25 AM

How could you tell with pilots flying planes while intoxicated and the other day two pilots flew by their airport and had to be awakened to land.I dont necessarily think terrorist,s are the only danger to flying. sam.

TXplt · 03-28-2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by samuel

How could you tell with pilots flying planes while intoxicated and the other day two pilots flew by their airport and had to be awakened to land.I dont necessarily think terrorist,s are the only danger to flying. sam.

Needless to say, I find this mildly offensive. Believe it or not, most pilots ARE careful and consciencious professionals.

03-27-2008, 08:58 PM	#1
fred Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NC, USA Posts: 172	Unintended discharge on flight to Charlotte? It appears that the handgun that discharged on the flight into Charlotte was an H&K USP .40 cal. Anybody care to comment? H&K's website describes the weapon as being adaptable from combination safety/decocker to safety only to decocker only. I've never handled one or seen one close up so I don't know what the implications are.

03-27-2008, 09:01 PM	#2
elmer fudd Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: pheasant country USA! Posts: 1,407	so it was on a plane and it fired!!!!!! i didnt think they would let you ship bullets on a plane with your gun!!!!!! __________________ spur hard, shoot straight, party hardy!

03-27-2008, 09:07 PM	#3
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,382	This was already posted here: __________________

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03-28-2008, 06:59 AM	#4
fred Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NC, USA Posts: 172	Yes, I know it was posted. I could understand why a Glock might discharge if it were put back in a holster and the trigger caught something (safe trigger notwithstanding). What I am asking is specific to the H&K: is there something about the design that would possibly cause such a discharge or is it human error?

03-28-2008, 09:35 AM	#6
punkndisorderly Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 90	If I'm not mistaken, the H&K USP's can be had in SA/DA, or DAO and can be carried cocked and locked for single action first shot. I would be interested to know how it was that the discharge happened (but have a feeling the media won't go further than "gun on plane go bang"). Perhaps it was in a bag, sans holster, and the combination of a little pushing and an item jammed within the trigger guard was the cause.

03-28-2008, 10:37 AM	#7
rfc357 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 741	My guess is, the pilot pulled the trigger...... I investigated several "unintentional" discharges while I was in the military, and all involved a finger on the trigger when it should not have been.

03-28-2008, 11:25 AM	#8
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,376	How could you tell with pilots flying planes while intoxicated and the other day two pilots flew by their airport and had to be awakened to land.I dont necessarily think terrorist,s are the only danger to flying. sam.