Hi point firearms Good or bad

sawnoffshotgun · 04-24-2009, 12:26 AM

I have heard mixed opinions about hi point guns. Does anyone know if they are good or bad. They sure are cheap

TXplt · 04-24-2009, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sawnoffshotgun

I have heard mixed opinions about hi point guns. Does anyone know if they are good or bad. They sure are cheap

I have 2 high point 9 mil carbines. Great guns--handled everything from target practice rounds to +P+ buffalo bore. Accurate to 50 yards.

The stock stings my cheek when firing though and the uneveness of the butt plate digs into my shoulder a bit--you can either go the high road with the cool replacement stocks or cover with black electrical/duck tape.

If you wanted to create a true EBR, you could probably find some pirate stickers to put on the stock

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Rave · 04-24-2009, 08:18 AM

Oh good grief,Hi-Point has spilled over in to the main stream from covering the pistol caliber carbine forum,had to go somewhere I guess.

bountyhunter24 · 04-24-2009, 09:00 AM

I cant say anything about their carbines as I have no experience with them, however their pistols are JUNK. My wife's uncle has one. I seen him attempt to shoot it once. He fired 1 shot and it jammed. Corrected it, fired, magazine fell out onto the ground. Corrected it, fired, fell out again. Corrected it fired it jammed. I never seen him fire more than 2 shots without having to correct a major problem. I have several friends who are police officers in downtown Cincinnati. They say they love for the gangbangers to use highpoints because they know the bad guys will only get one shot at them before jamming. If someone offered me one for free I wouldn't take it.

PAPA G · 04-24-2009, 09:28 AM

i do not have any first hand experience with them, haven't even seen one locally.

what ever happened to their planned .45acp version, that would be a good caliber. also i wonder why they haven't come out with a .22

Big Dog · 04-24-2009, 09:38 AM

The 9mm and .40 Carbines are very good guns. I've never handled the pistols - folks seem to like them or hate them.

Still awaiting the mythical .45ACP Carbine.

squirrelblaster · 04-24-2009, 09:39 AM

hi point pistols = bad
hi point carbines = good

Cyrano · 04-24-2009, 09:45 AM

There doesn't seem to be a middle ground with Hi-Points. People either love 'em or hate 'em. The experience people I know have had with them is that they are tough guns meant to work with a minimum of TLC. And their customer service is first rate, even if you are not the original buyer of the gun.

Somewhere on the forum there's a story of a guy who bought a seriously bubba'd Model 995 carbine. We're talking about tool marks all over it, a stock that had been mangled and 'repaired' with black electrical tape, and worse. I think the poster bought it out of pity for the gun. He phoned up Hi-Point and asked them what it would cost to have a new stock put on it, and maybe a quick action check? They told him to send it on in. He got it back 3 weeks later with a new stock, a refinished action, a new magazine and a test target - and a bill that read, "No Charge."

Customer service does count, and Hi-Point really means it when they talk about a lifetime warranty on their guns.

As far as the long-rumored and eagerly anticipated Model 4595 Carbine (and yeah, I'm one of the eager anticipaters), the explanation is simple. The gun exists in advanced prototype form and is ready to go into production, but Hi-Point has two problems.

First is the fact that demand for the Model 995 and Model 4095 carbines is so high, Hi-Point cannot schedule machine time to put the Model 4595 into production.

Second is the fact that Hi-Point's management is extremely suspicious of the Obama administration's intentions regarding a new gun ban. They aren't going to spend the money to set up a production line for a gun that the Obamists, the ex-Clintonistas Obama has appointed to high positions in his administration and their fellow-travelers in Congress might ban tomorrow if they ever decide they can pull it off.

I hope this answers your questions, Papa G.

dhermesc · 04-24-2009, 10:09 AM

I agree with everything Cayrano posted. The biggest strike against HighPoint is that their ergonomics are the pits but they seem to go bang everytime you pull the trigger. If you happen to have a problem with one send it back and they'll make it right. For the money you'd be hard pressed to find equals at double their price.

FS00008 · 04-24-2009, 10:31 AM

I personally have no issues with the HiPoint pistols. My cousin uses a HiPoint 9MM for her carry gun and has put many thousands of rounds through her HiPoint .380 and about 2k rounds through her 9MM. Nothing wrong with them yet. There are some concerns about slide integrity however from some people.

bigione · 04-24-2009, 08:42 PM

6 Hipoint 45's in family. Never a functioning problem with any on amy ammo. One 9mm. Clip follower needed replacing. Caused slide to close on empty mag. and mag. to drop out. I intend to buy more.

Mooseman684 · 04-24-2009, 09:16 PM

I bought a Hi-point .45 pistol to Have a cheap Gun for carrying Gold Mining so if it gets lost or wet , I havent lost or ruined a High Dollar gun. It eats 8 different ammo loads without a hitch and is accurate enough that I feel safe enough to use it if necessary. Sure , it is big and Bulky , but it works flawlessly for 100 dollar gun, that is in my tool box on the gold dredge...

Rich

rondog · 04-24-2009, 09:19 PM

I have a 9mm carbine and a .40 carbine, both are great and lots of fun! No experience with their pistols. But, I've read that while the older versions WERE junk, the newer versions seem to be a whole different animal, accurate and reliable. Still heavy and ugly though.

Rex in OTZ · 04-24-2009, 09:56 PM

Ive a 995 carbine, dident like the stock and changed it over to ATI I like this stock better (bigger trigger guard hole) I did like the old stock but not the triggerguard
never had a problem with it and have chot 4 different type's ammo without a hitch
I'm happy with the factory mag, nothing wrong with them, my kids like shooting the little stump with the thump!as they call it!
one my buddies calls it "The Planet of the Apes gun"

Cyrano · 04-24-2009, 10:47 PM

A local gunsmith takes a stock Model 995, drops it into the ATI faux-Beretta Storm stock, and adds a compensator and targeting laser to it. Then he adds either a red dot sight or a scope and charges $500 for it. Once one of these modified carbines gets out into the gun rack, it never is there as long as three days before someone buys it.

I'm more than a little tempted to buy one myself that's been so modified. Gun Tests rates the Hi-Point carbines highly, far ahead of anything in their class.

ackspac · 04-24-2009, 10:52 PM

Dont "BET" your life on a High Point.

tommy · 04-24-2009, 11:10 PM

[B]i would trust my highpoints . i took them shoot a few times and they worked fine . i passed about 200 rounds through all of them and the only jam was with a mag problem but after i adjusted the lips it was fine.i fine with highpoints it's best to put one less round than the mag holds just to make 100%sure it's gonna fire and cycle some of thier mags is tight and i guess until they breakin good they need to be just one round less to be consistant. but i would still trust them with my life.

Rex in OTZ · 04-24-2009, 11:38 PM

Considering the match locks the Pilgrims had relied on to survive I think if I had a choice of basic protection the Hi-Point gets my vote. its been a honist durable fire arm these last few years and never faild to send a bullet POA on target every time asked to do so, it has functioned no problems cold soaked for hours in -27F Arctic weather (had a Ruger 44Carbine that jambed at warmer +15 above temps)
So yes its a basic minimulist carbine, no frills and does the job, for what you spend for one and what it does, I think its a good value for the money, its Hi-point 995 that's all it is, its not a MAC, Its not a TEC, its not a UZI or Calico its just a Hi-Point 995.
its not everyones cup of tea, it does good by me and thats all I ask of it.

blat · 04-28-2009, 06:48 PM

I got a 995 carbine last year. So far, it's been a decent gun. I bought 2 xtra factory mags and the butt cuff that holds them. I keep 2 of the 3 mags loaded with Fed 9mm BPLE(115 hp +P+).

Dakoma · 04-28-2009, 07:06 PM

Years ago had a 9mm carbine,it shot decent and digested anything I put in it and I traded with a gunshop after they ordered me 2 Mas 36 rifles that sold at the time for $50.00 apiece,one unisued the other was arsenal refurbished.Best deal I ever got.I have to say the pistols had to be desighned by a guy with the last name Lee and a first name Ug ,never shot one,carbines are ok.

04-24-2009, 12:26 AM	#1
sawnoffshotgun Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Athol Idaho but mainly in the detention room Posts: 321 Blog Entries: 1	Hi point firearms Good or bad I have heard mixed opinions about hi point guns. Does anyone know if they are good or bad. They sure are cheap

04-24-2009, 08:18 AM	#3
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 8,433	Oh good grief,Hi-Point has spilled over in to the main stream from covering the pistol caliber carbine forum,had to go somewhere I guess. __________________ Better days are comeing! .

04-24-2009, 09:00 AM	#4
bountyhunter24 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: in the country near cincinnati OH Posts: 248 Images: 5	I cant say anything about their carbines as I have no experience with them, however their pistols are JUNK. My wife's uncle has one. I seen him attempt to shoot it once. He fired 1 shot and it jammed. Corrected it, fired, magazine fell out onto the ground. Corrected it, fired, fell out again. Corrected it fired it jammed. I never seen him fire more than 2 shots without having to correct a major problem. I have several friends who are police officers in downtown Cincinnati. They say they love for the gangbangers to use highpoints because they know the bad guys will only get one shot at them before jamming. If someone offered me one for free I wouldn't take it. __________________ "You can get further with a kind word and a gun than you can with just a kind word."

04-24-2009, 09:28 AM	#5
PAPA G Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 9,104	i do not have any first hand experience with them, haven't even seen one locally. what ever happened to their planned .45acp version, that would be a good caliber. also i wonder why they haven't come out with a .22 __________________ if it wasn't for the luck of the Irish, i'd have none at t'all. :lucky:

04-24-2009, 09:38 AM	#6
Big Dog Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 12,907	The 9mm and .40 Carbines are very good guns. I've never handled the pistols - folks seem to like them or hate them. Still awaiting the mythical .45ACP Carbine. __________________ "A bold spirit embiggens the smallest man!" Jebediah Springfield

04-24-2009, 09:39 AM	#7
squirrelblaster lord of lego turtles! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,493	hi point pistols = bad hi point carbines = good __________________ "I like Turtles!" youtube kid

04-24-2009, 09:45 AM	#8
Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 6,917	There doesn't seem to be a middle ground with Hi-Points. People either love 'em or hate 'em. The experience people I know have had with them is that they are tough guns meant to work with a minimum of TLC. And their customer service is first rate, even if you are not the original buyer of the gun. Somewhere on the forum there's a story of a guy who bought a seriously bubba'd Model 995 carbine. We're talking about tool marks all over it, a stock that had been mangled and 'repaired' with black electrical tape, and worse. I think the poster bought it out of pity for the gun. He phoned up Hi-Point and asked them what it would cost to have a new stock put on it, and maybe a quick action check? They told him to send it on in. He got it back 3 weeks later with a new stock, a refinished action, a new magazine and a test target - and a bill that read, "No Charge." Customer service does count, and Hi-Point really means it when they talk about a lifetime warranty on their guns. As far as the long-rumored and eagerly anticipated Model 4595 Carbine (and yeah, I'm one of the eager anticipaters), the explanation is simple. The gun exists in advanced prototype form and is ready to go into production, but Hi-Point has two problems. First is the fact that demand for the Model 995 and Model 4095 carbines is so high, Hi-Point cannot schedule machine time to put the Model 4595 into production. Second is the fact that Hi-Point's management is extremely suspicious of the Obama administration's intentions regarding a new gun ban. They aren't going to spend the money to set up a production line for a gun that the Obamists, the ex-Clintonistas Obama has appointed to high positions in his administration and their fellow-travelers in Congress might ban tomorrow if they ever decide they can pull it off. I hope this answers your questions, Papa G.

04-24-2009, 10:09 AM	#9
dhermesc Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: East Central Kansas Posts: 2,136	I agree with everything Cayrano posted. The biggest strike against HighPoint is that their ergonomics are the pits but they seem to go bang everytime you pull the trigger. If you happen to have a problem with one send it back and they'll make it right. For the money you'd be hard pressed to find equals at double their price. __________________ Liberty is for those that claim it.

04-24-2009, 10:31 AM	#10
FS00008 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,657 Blog Entries: 3	I personally have no issues with the HiPoint pistols. My cousin uses a HiPoint 9MM for her carry gun and has put many thousands of rounds through her HiPoint .380 and about 2k rounds through her 9MM. Nothing wrong with them yet. There are some concerns about slide integrity however from some people. __________________ "Safety? Is for gun to shoot, not for be on safety Love Ivan" -texnmidwest about Mosins

04-24-2009, 08:42 PM	#11
bigione Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: south central SD` Posts: 219	6 Hipoint 45's in family. Never a functioning problem with any on amy ammo. One 9mm. Clip follower needed replacing. Caused slide to close on empty mag. and mag. to drop out. I intend to buy more.

04-24-2009, 09:16 PM	#12
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness. Unit 13 Posts: 11,307 Images: 2	I bought a Hi-point .45 pistol to Have a cheap Gun for carrying Gold Mining so if it gets lost or wet , I havent lost or ruined a High Dollar gun. It eats 8 different ammo loads without a hitch and is accurate enough that I feel safe enough to use it if necessary. Sure , it is big and Bulky , but it works flawlessly for 100 dollar gun, that is in my tool box on the gold dredge... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

04-24-2009, 09:19 PM	#13
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 3,296	I have a 9mm carbine and a .40 carbine, both are great and lots of fun! No experience with their pistols. But, I've read that while the older versions WERE junk, the newer versions seem to be a whole different animal, accurate and reliable. Still heavy and ugly though. __________________ I child-proofed my house, but they still keep getting in!

04-24-2009, 09:56 PM	#14
Rex in OTZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NorthWest Alaska Posts: 975	Ive a 995 carbine, dident like the stock and changed it over to ATI I like this stock better (bigger trigger guard hole) I did like the old stock but not the triggerguard never had a problem with it and have chot 4 different type's ammo without a hitch I'm happy with the factory mag, nothing wrong with them, my kids like shooting the little stump with the thump!as they call it! one my buddies calls it "The Planet of the Apes gun"

04-24-2009, 10:47 PM	#15
Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 6,917	A local gunsmith takes a stock Model 995, drops it into the ATI faux-Beretta Storm stock, and adds a compensator and targeting laser to it. Then he adds either a red dot sight or a scope and charges $500 for it. Once one of these modified carbines gets out into the gun rack, it never is there as long as three days before someone buys it. I'm more than a little tempted to buy one myself that's been so modified. Gun Tests rates the Hi-Point carbines highly, far ahead of anything in their class.

04-24-2009, 10:52 PM	#16
ackspac Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 215	Dont "BET" your life on a High Point.

04-24-2009, 11:10 PM	#17
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,846 Images: 6	[B]i would trust my highpoints . i took them shoot a few times and they worked fine . i passed about 200 rounds through all of them and the only jam was with a mag problem but after i adjusted the lips it was fine.i fine with highpoints it's best to put one less round than the mag holds just to make 100%sure it's gonna fire and cycle some of thier mags is tight and i guess until they breakin good they need to be just one round less to be consistant. but i would still trust them with my life. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

04-24-2009, 11:38 PM	#18
Rex in OTZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NorthWest Alaska Posts: 975	Considering the match locks the Pilgrims had relied on to survive I think if I had a choice of basic protection the Hi-Point gets my vote. its been a honist durable fire arm these last few years and never faild to send a bullet POA on target every time asked to do so, it has functioned no problems cold soaked for hours in -27F Arctic weather (had a Ruger 44Carbine that jambed at warmer +15 above temps) So yes its a basic minimulist carbine, no frills and does the job, for what you spend for one and what it does, I think its a good value for the money, its Hi-point 995 that's all it is, its not a MAC, Its not a TEC, its not a UZI or Calico its just a Hi-Point 995. its not everyones cup of tea, it does good by me and thats all I ask of it.

04-28-2009, 06:48 PM	#19
blat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Western NC Posts: 385	I got a 995 carbine last year. So far, it's been a decent gun. I bought 2 xtra factory mags and the butt cuff that holds them. I keep 2 of the 3 mags loaded with Fed 9mm BPLE(115 hp +P+). __________________ I feel more like I do now than I did awhile ago.

04-28-2009, 07:06 PM	#20
Dakoma Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Southeast Tennessee Posts: 1,135	Years ago had a 9mm carbine,it shot decent and digested anything I put in it and I traded with a gunshop after they ordered me 2 Mas 36 rifles that sold at the time for $50.00 apiece,one unisued the other was arsenal refurbished.Best deal I ever got.I have to say the pistols had to be desighned by a guy with the last name Lee and a first name Ug ,never shot one,carbines are ok.