4595 Carbine . . . Anybody know when???

Stew Man Fu · 10-13-2009, 07:14 AM

I was curious about the 4595 Carbine. The last info here was a couple of months ago. Does anyone know when they will be available?

Big Dog · 10-13-2009, 08:09 AM

They seem to always say, "Middle of next year!"

Been saying that for several years now. I WANT ONE!!!!

Archetype_wyo · 10-13-2009, 09:07 AM

My guess is theres probably some issues with licensing and patents due to the fact that it looks ALOT like the Thompson. I mean the 995 and 4095 were ok I guess but being that the 4595 is well...a .45 I'm sure theres some licensing problems or something along those lines thats holding them up.

rondog · 10-13-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Archetype_wyo

My guess is theres probably some issues with licensing and patents due to the fact that it looks ALOT like the Thompson. I mean the 995 and 4095 were ok I guess but being that the 4595 is well...a .45 I'm sure theres some licensing problems or something along those lines thats holding them up.

Oh come on, it looks NOTHING like a Thompson! Not even close. Jeez.

Archetype_wyo · 10-13-2009, 11:27 AM

Well you got a point. Now that I think about it, its similar at best. I think they should have made it with a stick/box mag instead of that mini-mag in the handle like a pistol...

rondog · 10-13-2009, 11:56 AM

The only similarity between the two is the caliber. But I agree about the magazine's design and capacity. Even 1911 magazines would have been nice.

But, it's a moot point, since we'll never see the damn things on the shelves anyway. I have a 995, a 4095, a Winchester .44 mag Trapper carbine, and now an M1 Carbine and an Enfield Jungle Carbine, so I don't even want a 4595 anymore. So there, High-Point!

Metronome · 10-13-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rondog

But, it's a moot point, since we'll never see the damn things on the shelves anyway. I have a 995, a 4095, a Winchester .44 mag Trapper carbine, and now an M1 Carbine and an Enfield Jungle Carbine, so I don't even want a 4595 anymore. So there, High-Point!

LIES!!

I stopped holding my breath for a .45 ACP carbine from Hi-Point. I think a small operation like themselves simply has enough of a time staying alive as a gun manufacturer and simply meeting current demands; creating prototypes, testing and increasing manufacturing facilities takes a lot of time and money.

I still think Kel-Tec will retire their Sub-2000 rifle in favor of a pistol caliber SU series gun. Lets hope they retain the non-pistol grip so I can get one!

Archetype_wyo · 10-13-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rondog

The only similarity between the two is the caliber. But I agree about the magazine's design and capacity. Even 1911 magazines would have been nice.

But, it's a moot point, since we'll never see the damn things on the shelves anyway. I have a 995, a 4095, a Winchester .44 mag Trapper carbine, and now an M1 Carbine and an Enfield Jungle Carbine, so I don't even want a 4595 anymore. So there, High-Point!

I want a 995 but....I kinda want a bigger mag...how much does the mag carry for the 995?

Stew Man Fu · 10-13-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Archetype_wyo

I want a 995 but....I kinda want a bigger mag...how much does the mag carry for the 995?

10 rounds from the factory but I saw a 15 rd and a 30 rd mag from promag on their webpage.

Cyrano · 10-13-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Metronome

I stopped holding my breath for a .45 ACP carbine from Hi-Point. I think a small operation like themselves simply has enough of a time staying alive as a gun manufacturer and simply meeting current demands; creating prototypes, testing and increasing manufacturing facilities takes a lot of time and money.

Oh, I woudn't say they're just "staying alive." Demand for the Model 995 and Model 4095 is so high they can't keep up with the demand. Ditto their pistols. They're ugly as sin but they are reliable as hell and cheap as chips, so they keep on moving right off the shelf too.

As a matter of fact, when I emailed Hi-Point ans asked them when they'd be starting production on the 4595, their response was, "When things slow down enough that we can schedule the machine time to make them!" They don't have quite enough money to put on a second shift or to set up a new production line.

As a matter of fact, if I were an investor looking for someplace in invest money, I'd put it into Hi-Point and Henry. There's a definite market for high quality, inexpensive guns in this country and both companies have products that fit nicely into that niche.

jgolden · 10-14-2009, 10:13 AM

I read on the other (semi-official) Hi-Point forums that they are ramping up production on the 4095TS. (Tactical Stock) They are making the 995TS now and supposedly the 4595 will follow the 4095. Not holding my breath.

bigrebnc1861 · 10-14-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by rondog

The only similarity between the two is the caliber. But I agree about the magazine's design and capacity. Even 1911 magazines would have been nice.

But, it's a moot point, since we'll never see the damn things on the shelves anyway. I have a 995, a 4095, a Winchester .44 mag Trapper carbine, and now an M1 Carbine and an Enfield Jungle Carbine, so I don't even want a 4595 anymore. So there, High-Point!

I bet as soon as it does come out you will be the first in line to get one.

10-13-2009, 07:14 AM	#1
Stew Man Fu Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 92	4595 Carbine . . . Anybody know when??? I was curious about the 4595 Carbine. The last info here was a couple of months ago. Does anyone know when they will be available? __________________ If guns cause crime, all of mine are defective. *-Ted Nugent*

10-13-2009, 08:09 AM	#2
Big Dog Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 12,912	They seem to always say, "Middle of next year!" Been saying that for several years now. I WANT ONE!!!! __________________ "A bold spirit embiggens the smallest man!" Jebediah Springfield

10-13-2009, 09:07 AM	#3
Archetype_wyo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Buffalo, Wyo Posts: 1,731	My guess is theres probably some issues with licensing and patents due to the fact that it looks ALOT like the Thompson. I mean the 995 and 4095 were ok I guess but being that the 4595 is well...a .45 I'm sure theres some licensing problems or something along those lines thats holding them up. __________________ The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun. —Patrick Henry

10-13-2009, 11:27 AM	#5
Archetype_wyo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Buffalo, Wyo Posts: 1,731	Well you got a point. Now that I think about it, its similar at best. I think they should have made it with a stick/box mag instead of that mini-mag in the handle like a pistol... __________________ The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun. —Patrick Henry

10-13-2009, 11:56 AM	#6
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 3,296	The only similarity between the two is the caliber. But I agree about the magazine's design and capacity. Even 1911 magazines would have been nice. But, it's a moot point, since we'll never see the damn things on the shelves anyway. I have a 995, a 4095, a Winchester .44 mag Trapper carbine, and now an M1 Carbine and an Enfield Jungle Carbine, so I don't even want a 4595 anymore. So there, High-Point! __________________ I child-proofed my house, but they still keep getting in!

10-14-2009, 10:13 AM	#11
jgolden Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1	I read on the other (semi-official) Hi-Point forums that they are ramping up production on the 4095TS. (Tactical Stock) They are making the 995TS now and supposedly the 4595 will follow the 4095. Not holding my breath.