Wondering what people think of them ive been looking into them i went and handled one the other day and really liked it just wondering what other people think of them
I think they are great for practicing trigger control because you can do it at home, dry firing an empty pistol. Also, helps improve 'point & shoot' ability. Point at an object across the room, then trigger the laser. A lot cheaper than burning ammo at the range, but maybe not as much fun.
But as a substitute for poor markmanship ability & the so called 'scaring the bad guy' theory, I look at that a just marketing hype. When at the range, I turn mine off.
I believe that if you are a good shooter, it just isn't needed. It will actually tend to slow a person down in a defensive situation. They fiddle with moving the target impact point rather than getting the shot off. You need a friggin laser to hit a target at 15 feet even in the dark?
I believe that if you are a good shooter, it just isn't needed. It will actually tend to slow a person down in a defensive situation. They fiddle with moving the target impact point rather than getting the shot off. You need a friggin laser to hit a target at 15 feet even in the dark?
You are probably not a police officer.Most departments by the way don't allow them on 'on duty guns'. In a civilian situation if there is a need for a defensive handgun use, distance is usually less than 15 feet. You do not need a laser for that. There is always an ass for every seat. A million over 17 years is not alot, and they are probably put on guns by people who can't shoot well and think it will make than an Earp. Not saying they don't have a training aid use, but it will cause you to slow your shots down in a defensive situation.
I agree with M14man. At the distances most self defense situations occur you should be able to point shoot, both during the day and at night. If you are not practicing point shooting, you should be. It is a valuable skill that is easily improved with practice.
Try this:
Start out at three yards with a target that is a circle about the size of a tennis ball drawn on paper or cardboard. Starting with your hands at waist level, draw your pistol and fire at the target without looking through your sights. Reholster and do it again. It may take a few rounds to get comfortable, but it comes quickly to most people. When you are satisfied with the results, back up to five yards and start over. Your eyes should remain focused on the dot at all times. Don't worry about the sights, your hands tend to follow your eyes.
Note: This is not shooting from the hip. It is point shooting. You still draw and extend the pistol the same way. Later, when you are comfortable point shooting, it is a good idea to practice point shooting from the low tuck position to help with weapon retention in CQB situations.
I suppose lasers have their place, I'm just not sure what it is. ALR spoke about lasers helping aging eyes. That could very well be true, I just haven't made to this point in my life yet.
I dont need a CT, at 15 yrs old, I practiced and could hit an aspirin at 15 feet from the hip using a Marksman BB pistol replicated to look and feel like a 1911.
I have not lost this skill over the years, went through pounds of BBs.
I thought fletcher2007 could use an answer after 8 months as I was perusing the Kimber threads.
By the way Mr fletcher2007 sir, Nashville, Illinois is where my father was born, raised, and enlisted to fight the Nazi army in WWII, still have relatives there...
some police departments actually issue them on duty guns. It just depends. Most departments wont spend the money on them.
The two biggest advantages a laser can give you is in ultra low light shooting where you cannot see your sights or when shooting from awkward shooting positions were you may not have a sight picture.
If you get one, get one that allows you a momentary on/off pressure switch.
Just like with a handheld or weapon mounted light (which are other awesome tools) you should not be running them constantly on anyways thus negating the "but then people will see me" problem. And chances are in 99% of defensive shootings, the bad guy knows were you are anyways because you're probably less than 10 feet right in front of him already in plain view.
Just remember, a laser is an additional tool that can be used in certain circumstances it should not be a crutch or worse off a replacement for good shooting fundamentals.
I found that the best uses for the CT laser on my Kimber were to practice trigger control & practice 'point & shoot' at home with an empty pistol. Point at an object across the room then trigger the laser to see how close you are. If you have to move it to get on target, this is what you'd be doing with it loaded & in an emergency situation as already mentioned.
Turn it off at the range so that you do not make it a crutch. Part of every range trip should be point & shoot practice, both two handed & one handed, also both strong hand & weak hand.
I don't feel the need for one on my Stainless Carry II. However, I have shot a LCP with and without. I would not have one without CT. The sights on that gun are so bad, the laser is the only way to go.
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