A Knife I've Been Evaluating

Joshua M. Smith · 08-19-2008, 03:20 PM

Hello,

I attended an estate sale a while back. There were a bunch of knives there. I was looking for an ultralight that was durable enough to use as a backup in my pack, and I ended up buying a bunch of them as that's how they were being sold.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ekizoknife.jpg
This thing is a complete mystery. It says "Bekizo" but I cannot find any reference to them with Google.

I do not know if these are what the knife aficionados would refer to as "pot metal." I do know it's better than a dagger I picked up at a fair or some place similar. What I do know is that it sharpens and holds that edge. If bent, the blade flexes almost like spring steel.

This knife has a blade that is 5-1/2" long. The handle is made of paracord. On the back is a saw and what looks like a fish scaler, and that thing at the front can serve as a bottle opener, though I'm not sure of what its purpose is.

Altogether it weighs a couple of ounces.

The blade will sharpen on a piece of slate after a while.

I truly don't know what to make of this thing. I do know I'll be carrying one in my pack as it's more durable than my Master Hunter (Cold Steel) and lighter than a K-Bar (and much less expensive, though I don't want to call it "cheap"), but sharpens up about the same way.

Very interesting piece.

Josh <><

Cyrano · 08-19-2008, 03:30 PM

Josh, that looks intriguing. While my own survival knife is a modified Model 1896 Swedish Mauser bayonet (I use the hollow handle for storage), I would not mind that as a backup survival knife. If you would consider selling a couple of them, PM me. (I'm making up a get-back-home bag for my mother in law, who is of the bug-in school since she lives in a rural area.)

Romey · 08-19-2008, 11:26 PM

A knife that bends has nothing to do with if its "spring steel" all carbon steel is "spring steel" Blade thickness and cross sectional densety and heat treeat (or lack there of)have more to do with if a blade bends or not, which by the way i dont feel is a good thing.
Looks like a good can opener though

Joshua M. Smith · 08-20-2008, 05:57 AM

I don't feel it's a good thing, only if it doesn't spring back.

During the Vietnam War, the Filipinos made a machete-like contraption called a bolo for jungle survival training of Navy SEALs and other special forces teams. They were made from old truck leaf springs and got accolades from the SEALs who used them.

If a knife can be made such that the blade springs back after being bent, so much the better. I'm betting dollars to donuts that my Cold Steel knives would break before they flexed.

All I'm saying is, if it works... you know?

Josh <><

GlockMeister · 08-20-2008, 06:32 AM

I do like the way it looks. But, goods looks don't make or mean a good knife either. I can also say I'd personally buy one but for no more then $20 bucks. I think it would be a good back up knife and that's about it. I sure wouldn't make it the only one I had on or with me if hiking or camping that's for sure.

As for my comment above in regards to not paying no more than $20 bucks, here's one similar for just under , $20 bucks; by a whopping .03 cents. lol

Fury Glacier Bay Knife, Knives, Brand Not Specified, Fury Blade Sharp Cut Cutlery Stainless Steel Razor at Sportsman's Guide

Joshua M. Smith · 08-20-2008, 01:24 PM

Well, that's good, 'cause I'm going to sell most of these for $10 each + $5 or so shipping, once they all come in.

Josh <><

Romey · 08-21-2008, 07:52 PM

A good blade SHOULD break long before it bends, not counting fillet knives that are ground very thin. If one was to take to simuliar thickness knives and heat treated one to beable to take a edge and bend and the other fully hardened, the fully hardened one will hold a edge better, longer and resist impact better. Its due to the amount or Martinsite creating in the steel matrix, more the better.
Its exstremely simple to make a bendable blade, make it thin or have poorer heat treat. Making one that holds a edge, doesnt bend or flex with ful martinsite conversion is much harder to do. And Josh much as i think cold steel lacks a real great proper heat treat and that thier advertisments are nothing more then snake oil,they to will break before bending, thats why i never advocate using a knife as a prybar or jack handle.
That said, for 20$ that knife there would be a great beat around,rock digging, spear head making ect ect truck knife.

08-19-2008, 03:20 PM	#1
Joshua M. Smith Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wabash IN Posts: 423	A Knife I've Been Evaluating Hello, I attended an estate sale a while back. There were a bunch of knives there. I was looking for an ultralight that was durable enough to use as a backup in my pack, and I ended up buying a bunch of them as that's how they were being sold. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ekizoknife.jpg This thing is a complete mystery. It says "Bekizo" but I cannot find any reference to them with Google. I do not know if these are what the knife aficionados would refer to as "pot metal." I do know it's better than a dagger I picked up at a fair or some place similar. What I do know is that it sharpens and holds that edge. If bent, the blade flexes almost like spring steel. This knife has a blade that is 5-1/2" long. The handle is made of paracord. On the back is a saw and what looks like a fish scaler, and that thing at the front can serve as a bottle opener, though I'm not sure of what its purpose is. Altogether it weighs a couple of ounces. The blade will sharpen on a piece of slate after a while. I truly don't know what to make of this thing. I do know I'll be carrying one in my pack as it's more durable than my Master Hunter (Cold Steel) and lighter than a K-Bar (and much less expensive, though I don't want to call it "cheap"), but sharpens up about the same way. Very interesting piece. Josh <>< __________________ Is it better to live by a corrupt society's standards rather than face persecution for not doing the same? This is the dilemma we now face. We must hold fast to our convictions as we confront this dilemma. Knowing one's self goes a long way in the crisis. - Me, Standup Philosopher

08-19-2008, 11:26 PM	#3
Romey Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Montana Posts: 505	A knife that bends has nothing to do with if its "spring steel" all carbon steel is "spring steel" Blade thickness and cross sectional densety and heat treeat (or lack there of)have more to do with if a blade bends or not, which by the way i dont feel is a good thing. Looks like a good can opener though __________________ Romey High Country Knives http://www.highcountryknives.com Last edited by Romey; 08-19-2008 at 11:31 PM.

08-20-2008, 05:57 AM	#4
Joshua M. Smith Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wabash IN Posts: 423	I don't feel it's a good thing, only if it doesn't spring back. During the Vietnam War, the Filipinos made a machete-like contraption called a bolo for jungle survival training of Navy SEALs and other special forces teams. They were made from old truck leaf springs and got accolades from the SEALs who used them. If a knife can be made such that the blade springs back after being bent, so much the better. I'm betting dollars to donuts that my Cold Steel knives would break before they flexed. All I'm saying is, if it works... you know? Josh <>< __________________ Is it better to live by a corrupt society's standards rather than face persecution for not doing the same? This is the dilemma we now face. We must hold fast to our convictions as we confront this dilemma. Knowing one's self goes a long way in the crisis. - Me, Standup Philosopher

08-20-2008, 06:32 AM	#5
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 6,156	I do like the way it looks. But, goods looks don't make or mean a good knife either. I can also say I'd personally buy one but for no more then $20 bucks. I think it would be a good back up knife and that's about it. I sure wouldn't make it the only one I had on or with me if hiking or camping that's for sure. As for my comment above in regards to not paying no more than $20 bucks, here's one similar for just under , $20 bucks; by a whopping .03 cents. lol Fury Glacier Bay Knife, Knives, Brand Not Specified, Fury Blade Sharp Cut Cutlery Stainless Steel Razor at Sportsman's Guide __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

08-20-2008, 01:24 PM	#6
Joshua M. Smith Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wabash IN Posts: 423	Well, that's good, 'cause I'm going to sell most of these for $10 each + $5 or so shipping, once they all come in. Josh <>< __________________ Is it better to live by a corrupt society's standards rather than face persecution for not doing the same? This is the dilemma we now face. We must hold fast to our convictions as we confront this dilemma. Knowing one's self goes a long way in the crisis. - Me, Standup Philosopher Last edited by Joshua M. Smith; 08-20-2008 at 01:26 PM.

08-19-2008, 03:30 PM	#2
Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 2,860	Josh, that looks intriguing. While my own survival knife is a modified Model 1896 Swedish Mauser bayonet (I use the hollow handle for storage), I would not mind that as a backup survival knife. If you would consider selling a couple of them, PM me. (I'm making up a get-back-home bag for my mother in law, who is of the bug-in school since she lives in a rural area.)

08-21-2008, 07:52 PM	#7
Romey Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Montana Posts: 505	A good blade SHOULD break long before it bends, not counting fillet knives that are ground very thin. If one was to take to simuliar thickness knives and heat treated one to beable to take a edge and bend and the other fully hardened, the fully hardened one will hold a edge better, longer and resist impact better. Its due to the amount or Martinsite creating in the steel matrix, more the better. Its exstremely simple to make a bendable blade, make it thin or have poorer heat treat. Making one that holds a edge, doesnt bend or flex with ful martinsite conversion is much harder to do. And Josh much as i think cold steel lacks a real great proper heat treat and that thier advertisments are nothing more then snake oil,they to will break before bending, thats why i never advocate using a knife as a prybar or jack handle. That said, for 20$ that knife there would be a great beat around,rock digging, spear head making ect ect truck knife. __________________ Romey High Country Knives http://www.highcountryknives.com