manufacturers?

whirlwind · 08-06-2003, 02:03 AM

what makes do yall got? mines a standard products. i heard rock-ola's are rare.

Big Dog · 08-06-2003, 07:07 AM

I just picked up the newer IAI, using Israeli parts but assembled in Texas on new receivers. Going to put it thru it's paces this weekend. It ain't GI, but it's better priced than the GI models around my area - M1 Carbines are going thru the roof!
My buddy has a Plainfield - again GI parts on a civilian-market receiver.
We wanted "shooters", rather than collector's pieces.

Most of what I see at the gunshows here are Inlands and Winchesters.

A local shop has two Universals, but I've heard negative things about them so have steered clear.

whirlwind · 08-06-2003, 11:02 AM

i totally agree about wanting shooters! my gi carbine and garand will never collect dust...no reason to have weapons if ya never use em. imo

landtrain · 08-15-2003, 02:10 PM

Have S.G., S'G', Inland, Winchester and am beginning to get a decent number of the commerical guns. None are untouched factory originals. A few have late features. I also dabble in Carbine repair.

I even have an Iver Johnson with a factory barrel in an ultra rare .30 Carbine case with a .257 bullet which I have now named the .257 DRE.

Both early, mid and late Universals, early and late IJ, Alpine, National Ordnance, Federal Ordnance, EFM, Erma in .22 cal, IJ/Erma in .22 cal. I have two barreled receivers in .22 cal with unfinished receivers. Both are less than 50% but the barrels are inplace ready to finish the mill work. Marlin 99M1 in .22 cal.

Anyone else looking at the commerical guns. Any one have any commerical Carbines for sale??? Thirty different companies made them. Where are they?

BattleRifleG3 · 08-15-2003, 02:13 PM

Friends of mine have a Universal and a GI. We saved the Uni by installing an M2 trigger group after the aluminum one cracked.

jimb2 · 08-15-2003, 09:03 PM

Ok, I've got an SG, IBM, NPM, Winchester, a couple of Underwoods and a bunch of Inland M1s and M1a1s....

PAPA G · 08-15-2003, 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by landtrain
Have S.G., S'G', Inland, Winchester and am beginning to get a decent number of the commerical guns. None are untouched factory originals. A few have late features. I also dabble in Carbine repair.

I even have an Iver Johnson with a factory barrel in an ultra rare .30 Carbine case with a .257 bullet which I have now named the .257 DRE.

Both early, mid and late Universals, early and late IJ, Alpine, National Ordnance, Federal Ordnance, EFM, Erma in .22 cal, IJ/Erma in .22 cal. I have two barreled receivers in .22 cal with unfinished receivers. Both are less than 50% but the barrels are inplace ready to finish the mill work. Marlin 99M1 in .22 cal.

Anyone else looking at the commerical guns. Any one have any commerical Carbines for sale??? Thirty different companies made them. Where are they?

and juding from problems others have had i may never shoot it. you say thirty different companies made M1 carbine clones, where can i review that info??? i remember Uni, Plainfield, IJ, Alpine, Nat/Fed ord, Howa, IAI, Spring Armory INC,

whirlwind · 08-15-2003, 09:50 PM

rock-ola and std pro too ...id love to find a rock-ola!

jimb2 · 08-15-2003, 09:58 PM

Lets see, some of the other commercials are American Historical foundation, Bellmore-Johnson, Bullseye, Erma, Global, Hy Hunter, Jenkins, Johnson Ordnance, Johnson-Tucker, Rock Island Armory, Rowan-Becker, Santa Fe, TriState, and Rock Island.....And I think there are a few more besides!

jimb2 · 09-05-2003, 07:03 PM

Well, I picked up the three last missing ones, RockOla, QHMC and Std Prod. Now I have at least one of each make and multiples in several. I don't think I'll be selling them off again for a while. Its getting too hard to replace them....and too expensive too!

Sarge · 09-17-2003, 02:09 AM

I've got 2 Winchesters, 1 1 mil early & 1 5 mil late which came thru NRA. 2 inlands - 1 is an M1A1, a Std Prod and a Rock Ola. Seems like I have an underwood also?
These never get shot. My shooter is a klunky inland that cost me about $80 - 10 years ago.
Sarge

jimb2 · 09-30-2003, 07:34 PM

Its interesting to see how many guys never shoot their "collector" carbines. Mine all go to the range from time to time. I may be risking them, but they were built to be shot. I just use moderate handloads. I may enjoy shooting them, but I also don't see any point in abusing them.

Holmes · 10-21-2003, 07:51 AM

plainfeild machine m1 carbine for me,the only thing my m1 collects is range time

wes · 11-01-2003, 11:33 PM

Winchester. Aint real purty, but it shoots good.

ottobon100 · 03-24-2004, 05:10 PM

BattlerifleG3 stated that they had saved a friends Universal by replacing a cracked cast trigger housing with an M2 trigger group. I have an older production Universal that has had exactly 20 rounds fired through it that my Dad just gave me. Will all of the USGI M1/M2 trigger housings fit older Universals? I would like to eventually replace the cast one.

BattleRifleG3 · 03-24-2004, 06:32 PM

I'm not sure, I was told on this forum myself. It is a little bit loose. My suggestion is to use what you have as long as it works. The part that broke wasn't critical to safety, just feeding. I'm not sure if the source we got the trigger guard from still has them or not.

BattleRifleG3 · 03-24-2004, 06:38 PM

I got it from Centerfiresystems, but they no longer advertise them. Try Numrich at e-gunparts.com

ottobon100 · 03-25-2004, 02:28 PM

Thanks Battle. Fulton Armory has them also. I just didn't know if they would fit my Universal. I'll call them and post whatever I find out.

08-06-2003, 02:03 AM	#1
whirlwind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 3,737 Images: 1	manufacturers? what makes do yall got? mines a standard products. i heard rock-ola's are rare. __________________ De oppresso liber !

08-06-2003, 07:07 AM	#2
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,205	I just picked up the newer IAI, using Israeli parts but assembled in Texas on new receivers. Going to put it thru it's paces this weekend. It ain't GI, but it's better priced than the GI models around my area - M1 Carbines are going thru the roof! My buddy has a Plainfield - again GI parts on a civilian-market receiver. We wanted "shooters", rather than collector's pieces. Most of what I see at the gunshows here are Inlands and Winchesters. A local shop has two Universals, but I've heard negative things about them so have steered clear. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables. Last edited by Big Dog; 08-15-2003 at 02:41 PM.

08-06-2003, 11:02 AM	#3
whirlwind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 3,737 Images: 1	i totally agree about wanting shooters! my gi carbine and garand will never collect dust...no reason to have weapons if ya never use em. imo __________________ De oppresso liber !

08-15-2003, 02:13 PM	#5
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Friends of mine have a Universal and a GI. We saved the Uni by installing an M2 trigger group after the aluminum one cracked. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

08-15-2003, 09:03 PM	#6
jimb2 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 511	Ok, I've got an SG, IBM, NPM, Winchester, a couple of Underwoods and a bunch of Inland M1s and M1a1s.... __________________ I am a nobody. Nobody is perfect. Therefore, I am perfect...

08-15-2003, 02:10 PM	#4
landtrain Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Spotsylvania Court House, VA. Posts: 29	Have S.G., S'G', Inland, Winchester and am beginning to get a decent number of the commerical guns. None are untouched factory originals. A few have late features. I also dabble in Carbine repair. I even have an Iver Johnson with a factory barrel in an ultra rare .30 Carbine case with a .257 bullet which I have now named the .257 DRE. Both early, mid and late Universals, early and late IJ, Alpine, National Ordnance, Federal Ordnance, EFM, Erma in .22 cal, IJ/Erma in .22 cal. I have two barreled receivers in .22 cal with unfinished receivers. Both are less than 50% but the barrels are inplace ready to finish the mill work. Marlin 99M1 in .22 cal. Anyone else looking at the commerical guns. Any one have any commerical Carbines for sale??? Thirty different companies made them. Where are they?

08-15-2003, 09:50 PM	#8
whirlwind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 3,737 Images: 1	rock-ola and std pro too ...id love to find a rock-ola! __________________ De oppresso liber !

08-15-2003, 09:58 PM	#9
jimb2 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 511	Lets see, some of the other commercials are American Historical foundation, Bellmore-Johnson, Bullseye, Erma, Global, Hy Hunter, Jenkins, Johnson Ordnance, Johnson-Tucker, Rock Island Armory, Rowan-Becker, Santa Fe, TriState, and Rock Island.....And I think there are a few more besides! __________________ I am a nobody. Nobody is perfect. Therefore, I am perfect...

09-05-2003, 07:03 PM	#10
jimb2 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 511	Well, I picked up the three last missing ones, RockOla, QHMC and Std Prod. Now I have at least one of each make and multiples in several. I don't think I'll be selling them off again for a while. Its getting too hard to replace them....and too expensive too! __________________ I am a nobody. Nobody is perfect. Therefore, I am perfect...

09-17-2003, 02:09 AM	#11
Sarge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 217	I've got 2 Winchesters, 1 1 mil early & 1 5 mil late which came thru NRA. 2 inlands - 1 is an M1A1, a Std Prod and a Rock Ola. Seems like I have an underwood also? These never get shot. My shooter is a klunky inland that cost me about $80 - 10 years ago. Sarge __________________ Calling illegal aliens undocumented immigrants is like calling drug dealers unlicensed pharmacists!

09-30-2003, 07:34 PM	#12
jimb2 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 511	Its interesting to see how many guys never shoot their "collector" carbines. Mine all go to the range from time to time. I may be risking them, but they were built to be shot. I just use moderate handloads. I may enjoy shooting them, but I also don't see any point in abusing them. __________________ I am a nobody. Nobody is perfect. Therefore, I am perfect...

10-21-2003, 07:51 AM	#13
Holmes Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 15	plainfeild machine m1 carbine for me,the only thing my m1 collects is range time

11-01-2003, 11:33 PM	#14
wes Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Loveland Co Posts: 1,906	Winchester. Aint real purty, but it shoots good.

03-24-2004, 05:10 PM	#15
ottobon100 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 6	Univeral Trigger Housing BattlerifleG3 stated that they had saved a friends Universal by replacing a cracked cast trigger housing with an M2 trigger group. I have an older production Universal that has had exactly 20 rounds fired through it that my Dad just gave me. Will all of the USGI M1/M2 trigger housings fit older Universals? I would like to eventually replace the cast one.

03-24-2004, 06:32 PM	#16
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	I'm not sure, I was told on this forum myself. It is a little bit loose. My suggestion is to use what you have as long as it works. The part that broke wasn't critical to safety, just feeding. I'm not sure if the source we got the trigger guard from still has them or not. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

03-24-2004, 06:38 PM	#17
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	I got it from Centerfiresystems, but they no longer advertise them. Try Numrich at e-gunparts.com __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

03-25-2004, 02:28 PM	#18
ottobon100 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 6	Thanks Battle. Fulton Armory has them also. I just didn't know if they would fit my Universal. I'll call them and post whatever I find out.