I have an M1 Carbine, picked it up about a year or a year 1/2 ago at a local pawn shop. I have only fired it about 8 to 10 times. When I purchased it the owner of the pawn shop (who is an x Marine) told me tha it was a Rockola. It had a scope on it and I wanted to mount that on one of 22 rifles. The rear site is gone (easy fix) but when I started looking at it I found all sorts of cool stuff. On the back of reciever is stampped Quality HMC (Quality Hardware and Machine Company). Serial# 4849xxx. The barrel is stampped Blue Sky/Arlington VA, The magazine release button has an M on it. It is also stampped U.S. Carbine Cal .30 M1. Well I took the scope off and pulled the bolt back and the bolt fell out (made me say Holy Crap). Now I have heard that there are round and flat bolts, this one is round. Is this an easy fix? I have seen on post how ya'lls like pictures. Go to my profile and there is a pic of it. Who ever had it before me (or somewhere in time) a flash arrester has been welded on the barrel. And the barrel band is messed up. Barrel band, sites, look like an easy fix along with sling and oiler. Heard I could cut the flash arrester off, but I had rather replace the barrel. Some where in my box of books I do have a manual for it. I know I ordered it and it came in the mail, just have to find it. Is this an easy fix, and is this rifle easy to field strip?
"On the back of reciever is stampped Quality HMC (Quality Hardware and Machine Company)."
That's where mine is stamped "ROCK-OLA" -- right underneath the rear sight and just above the serial number - 4542XXX. Or am I confused with what you are calling the 'receiver'?
"On the back of reciever is stampped Quality HMC (Quality Hardware and Machine Company)."
That's where mine is stamped "ROCK-OLA" -- right underneath the rear sight and just above the serial number - 4542XXX. Or am I confused with what you are calling the 'receiver'?
RR
Yes right underneath the rear site Quality HMC then serial number. Is there anyway to check manufacture date with serial number? Have you ever taken your M1 apart, and if so is it realativly simple, or is it one of those deals where there will parts left over when putting it bact together?
Should be pretty easy to field strip and work on. Check out the CMP website under carbines. There is a lot of good information and diagrams there as well.
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Should be pretty easy to field strip and work on. Check out the CMP website under carbines. There is a lot of good information and diagrams there as well.
Thanks for the info. I am going to look at CMP. I inquired about buying an M1 Garand about a year ago. I was told you had to be Veteran or be in a participating club. I am neither. I still have the email saved from CMP that was sent back to me.
I want to replace the barrel to get rid of the flash hider or flash arrester. At some point in time it was welded on and I do not know if it was factory deal or if someone added it at a later time. What tools are required to remove and replace the barrel? Also when ordering parts for the M1 such as a barrel, firing pin, or bolt are all parts interchangable from say Rock-ola, Winchester, IBM, onto a Quality HMC?
This is cool. I think I just might be able to field strip it now. Thanks for the info. Are there any sites that tell you have to remove the barrel? I have pics posted on my profile of my M1 that you can take a look at to see what I am talking about with the flash surpresser.
[QUOTE=TNPIRATE;1479305]This is cool. I think I just might be able to field strip it now. Thanks for the info. Are there any sites that tell you have to remove the barrel? I have pics posted on my profile of my M1 that you can take a look at to see what I am talking about with the flash surpresser.[/QUOTE
Barrel replace is gunsmith time. Barrel and smith = big $$$
This is cool. I think I just might be able to field strip it now. Thanks for the info. Are there any sites that tell you have to remove the barrel? I have pics posted on my profile of my M1 that you can take a look at to see what I am talking about with the flash surpresser.[/QUOTE
Barrel replace is gunsmith time. Barrel and smith = big $$$
OK thanks. I guess the barrel is'nt something I can't do in the garage. No easy fix. I am wanting to take it back to original. I know that flash gurard was not put on at the time of manufacture. This is the first time I have seen an M1 with one welded on the barrel. So it looks like I gots some choices. Wait and get it done later and buy an M1 Garand, or take my M1 garand money jars and convert it into greenbacks and get the Carbine fixed up original. Yeah when I was driving a truck I would take all my change and put it in a gallon jug. That was my gonna buy a Garand fund. And I found a local pawn broker who has a couple of Garands for sale. He's X Marine and has a couple in his private stock. He also has a Colt 1911. All are military issue.
If the dealer told you the carbine was a rockola and it's clearly marked Quality...he blatantly lied to you and is guilty of mis-representation.
I don't quite understand your reference to "the bolt fell out". That is not a good thing. Actually, it is next to impossible for a fully functional bolt to 'fall out'. Round bolt or flat bolt makes no difference. The round bolt was designed to be used in the M2 Carbine but often ended up in M1's as well. Round bolts are stronger for full-auto fire of the M2.
Replacing the barrel does not necessarily mean an expensive trip to a gunsmith...it can be done but takes some good basic skills. It would require you to rent, borrow, or trip to a smith for headspace check. It's not the easiest of tasks but it is do-able. A new replacement barrel is spendy but you may find good used barrels for much more reasonable money.
If the pawn shop owner is the same one who told you the carbine was a Rockola; I'd stay clear of him...at best you may want to research your next planned purchase, from him, extremely well.
Learn about the M1 Garand before you purchase one. A little knowledge will save you from being hog-washed; a lot of knowledge will save you grief.
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If the dealer told you the carbine was a rockola and it's clearly marked Quality...he blatantly lied to you and is guilty of mis-representation.
If the pawn shop owner is the same one who told you the carbine was a Rockola; I'd stay clear of him...at best you may want to research your next planned purchase, from him, extremely well.
He has not only lied to you, the buyer, but chances are he's filled out his book incorrectly and will be in violation of BATFE rules. My guess is that he's pretty good at not following the rules..
As far as the CMP, they told you the truth, but you should have looked into a bit more.. Membership of a club can be as simple as the Garand Collectors Association for $25 a year, through the mail.. Many who buy at the CMP are members of clubs on this order.. Very cheap, and you not only get a rifle that's been checked over by a qualified gunsmith, but they stand behind them 100% if something goes wrong or isn't right when you buy it. (very rare, but does happen)
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If the dealer told you the carbine was a rockola and it's clearly marked Quality...he blatantly lied to you and is guilty of mis-representation.
I don't quite understand your reference to "the bolt fell out". That is not a good thing. Actually, it is next to impossible for a fully functional bolt to 'fall out'. Round bolt or flat bolt makes no difference. The round bolt was designed to be used in the M2 Carbine but often ended up in M1's as well. Round bolts are stronger for full-auto fire of the M2.
Replacing the barrel does not necessarily mean an expensive trip to a gunsmith...it can be done but takes some good basic skills. It would require you to rent, borrow, or trip to a smith for headspace check. It's not the easiest of tasks but it is do-able. A new replacement barrel is spendy but you may find good used barrels for much more reasonable money.
If the pawn shop owner is the same one who told you the carbine was a Rockola; I'd stay clear of him...at best you may want to research your next planned purchase, from him, extremely well.
Learn about the M1 Garand before you purchase one. A little knowledge will save you from being hog-washed; a lot of knowledge will save you grief.
I was taking the scope and mount off to put on one of my other rifles, and as I always do is pull the bolt back to double check to see if the Carbine was empty. When I pulled the bolt back to check the bolt (which is a flat style) popped up just enough to where I had to lock the bolt open and use my thumb push it back down to close the bolt. After I took off the scope and mount I took another look at it and pulled the bolt open. This time locking the bolt open and removing the magazine. I then turned the Carbine over and the bolt fell out on my lap. I am hoping that something inside came lose and I can fix it. I am going to field strip it and give it a good cleaning and see what went wrong. I am most likly going to go thru the field manual and slowly take it down and order at least 2 of the parts that I might need to have extra on hand. I look at it as this is an old rifle and from the looks of it has not had any TLC. This is the first Carbine I have purchased and will probably pick up another at some point in time. Yes I may have been ripped off in a way but it has not been the first time and probably won't be the last in life. Take it for what it is and go back to square one and do what you have to do to fix the problem. One thing fir sure is that it is a lesson and with that you learn. I figure this way I will learn just a little more by taking it apart and putting it back together again. Thanks for the input. BTW: I took off the scope mount and scope and found the scope to be an older Weaver. I mounted it on my Marlin Model 25. And still pretty accurate.
He has not only lied to you, the buyer, but chances are he's filled out his book incorrectly and will be in violation of BATFE rules. My guess is that he's pretty good at not following the rules..
As far as the CMP, they told you the truth, but you should have looked into a bit more.. Membership of a club can be as simple as the Garand Collectors Association for $25 a year, through the mail.. Many who buy at the CMP are members of clubs on this order.. Very cheap, and you not only get a rifle that's been checked over by a qualified gunsmith, but they stand behind them 100% if something goes wrong or isn't right when you buy it. (very rare, but does happen)
Thanks for the info on CMP sponsered clubs. When I first started looking at CMP I was looking for a local shooting club, but could never get in contact with them. I looked up the Garand Coolectors Association last night, and it was a cool site. Thanks for the info on this.
Thanks for the info on CMP sponsered clubs. When I first started looking at CMP I was looking for a local shooting club, but could never get in contact with them. I looked up the Garand Coolectors Association last night, and it was a cool site. Thanks for the info on this.
And you get a pretty cool quarterly magazine, too!!
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