universal arms mi 30 carbine

offroader1994 · 12-11-2007, 08:06 AM

i was wondering if anyone knew where i might be able to get a scope mount for this carbine? it has the holes driled and tapped in the side of the receiver and plastic cap to cover and protect the threads. if someone knows where i might find the specs for the mount i have a friend that works at a machine shop. thanks for any info.

M14man · 12-11-2007, 11:47 AM

The Universal had a 2 piece mount. The first attaches below the stockline. The second piece than is attached to it via two large screws. This allows the upper to be removed if desired. You have the specs to the CTC of the base holes, but making a good mount will not be easy since they are grooved and mated to prevent slide. Here are 2 pics from my archives. Pictures taken years ago...

oldjarhead · 12-11-2007, 01:23 PM

OR1994, Try one of these outfits. The first two would be the best bet but maybe the other two can give you an idea where to look. All have reasonable prices and good service, I've used them all.

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TomF · 01-06-2008, 05:28 PM

Numerich link: 545020B Side Scope Mount W/ 1'' Rings

TxCowboy62 · 08-17-2009, 02:43 PM

I have a Universal Arms 30 Cal. carbine,that belonged to my mother.I have been trying to find scope mounts and rings for this rifle.Had a weaver scope and mounts on it that my dad installed,when shell is ejected it hits the scope.Can not keep scope sighted in.Found Weaver set (545020B) wondering if this going to be same problem

chiefrcd · 08-17-2009, 09:58 PM

This slips into the rear sight dovetail. No alterations, no holes to drill.

M1 .30 CALIBER CARBINE SCOPE MOUNT W/ 1" WEAVER RINGS - eBay (item 390080107300 end time Sep-08-09 17:53:22 PDT)

TxCowboy62 · 08-18-2009, 12:26 PM

What kind of comments have you received from those that purchased this scope mount? The one that I have has the mount on top as this one does and eject shells hit the scope

chiefrcd · 08-18-2009, 09:31 PM

I use a red dot reflex sight, shells eject up and to the right, no issues for me, but that is a good point, it just might hit a scope.

Taurus Fan · 08-19-2009, 02:27 AM

Putting a scope on an M1 Carbine is like trying to polish a turd.

oldjarhead · 08-21-2009, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taurus Fan

Putting a scope on an M1 Carbine is like trying to polish a turd.

Would you quantify that statement?
No different than scoping any other long arm or pistol.
People scope M1 Garands, Mosins, Ariskas, 03's, Mausers, and other milsurp; so what makes the carbine any different?

jimb2 · 08-22-2009, 09:11 PM

TF doesn't like carbines and seems to feel that anything done to improve accuracy is a waste of effort. He also doesn't give any consideration to those of us who may have less than youthful eyesight!

M14man · 08-22-2009, 10:23 PM

I like my 9 power scope on my Universal carbine....it allows me to see my misses....

ironhead7544 · 08-23-2009, 08:33 AM

Theres a scout type mount for the M1 carbine. Replaces the upper handguard. You have to use a forward mounted scope but thats really better for the carbine. Check with the maker of the mount to be sure it will fit the Universal as it it a bit different from the military carbine.

oldjarhead · 08-23-2009, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimb2

TF doesn't like carbines and seems to feel that anything done to improve accuracy is a waste of effort. He also doesn't give any consideration to those of us who may have less than youthful eyesight!

Yeah, I'm trying to put off scoping my guns armed with peep sights but I think I'm losing the battle...it's amazing how the 300 yard line gets farther away the older one gets.

oldjarhead · 08-23-2009, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M14man

I like my 9 power scope on my Universal carbine....it allows me to see my misses....

Awww, Geez...you had to go and show a picture.
Now I want to put a scope on my carbine conversion.
That really looks good...
Now that you can see the target do you get any better misses?

M14man · 08-23-2009, 09:55 AM

The misses are really contingent on how it nestled in the stock after last cleaning. I can get 2" groups at 50 yds if it's in right, to 6" groups if it is not. The 9X really allows me to see the shots, and if it's plinking and not trying for groups, really is nice.

TheDisinherited · 08-25-2009, 01:01 AM

I don't think it's at all fair to describe the M1 Carbine as a "turd." It's a nice weapon, well made, extremely well balanced, functional and reliable. My old man handloads really accurate .30 Carbine rounds, and he can shoot really close groups with them... (I've still got nowhere near his marksmanship skills... drives me crazy). Even a "crude" weapon like an SKS or Mosin-Nagant can be really accurate if you use good ammo. I think it's fine to put a scope on an M1 Carbine, if it suits what you're planning to do with it. I'm still young, but I have not-so-great eyesight... so I understand what you old timers are talkin about

oldjarhead · 08-25-2009, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDisinherited

I don't think it's at all fair to describe the M1 Carbine as a "turd." It's a nice weapon, well made, extremely well balanced, functional and reliable. My old man handloads really accurate .30 Carbine rounds, and he can shoot really close groups with them... (I've still got nowhere near his marksmanship skills... drives me crazy). Even a "crude" weapon like an SKS or Mosin-Nagant can be really accurate if you use good ammo. I think it's fine to put a scope on an M1 Carbine, if it suits what you're planning to do with it. I'm still young, but I have not-so-great eyesight... so I understand what you old timers are talkin about

Who you callin' old timers?
LOL

chiefrcd · 08-25-2009, 10:37 AM

Did he refer to us senior citizens, as " old timers"....

I'm starting to feel like Gabby Hayes..........you durn tootin' partner.

oldjarhead · 08-26-2009, 03:35 AM

LOL
Geez, Did we scare him off?
Man, I haven't thought about Gabby for years.

12-11-2007, 08:06 AM	#1
offroader1994 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: east Tn. Posts: 83	universal arms mi 30 carbine i was wondering if anyone knew where i might be able to get a scope mount for this carbine? it has the holes driled and tapped in the side of the receiver and plastic cap to cover and protect the threads. if someone knows where i might find the specs for the mount i have a friend that works at a machine shop. thanks for any info.

08-17-2009, 02:43 PM	#5
TxCowboy62 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2	Scope mount and rings I have a Universal Arms 30 Cal. carbine,that belonged to my mother.I have been trying to find scope mounts and rings for this rifle.Had a weaver scope and mounts on it that my dad installed,when shell is ejected it hits the scope.Can not keep scope sighted in.Found Weaver set (545020B) wondering if this going to be same problem

08-17-2009, 09:58 PM	#6
chiefrcd Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 41	This slips into the rear sight dovetail. No alterations, no holes to drill. M1 .30 CALIBER CARBINE SCOPE MOUNT W/ 1" WEAVER RINGS - eBay (item 390080107300 end time Sep-08-09 17:53:22 PDT) __________________ Have Gun ~ Will Carry S-Safety M-Motivation A-Awareness R-Responsibility T-Training

08-18-2009, 09:31 PM	#8
chiefrcd Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 41	I use a red dot reflex sight, shells eject up and to the right, no issues for me, but that is a good point, it just might hit a scope. __________________ Have Gun ~ Will Carry S-Safety M-Motivation A-Awareness R-Responsibility T-Training Last edited by chiefrcd; 08-18-2009 at 09:32 PM. Reason: @

08-22-2009, 09:11 PM	#11
jimb2 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 703	TF doesn't like carbines and seems to feel that anything done to improve accuracy is a waste of effort. He also doesn't give any consideration to those of us who may have less than youthful eyesight! __________________ Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't out to get you!

12-11-2007, 11:47 AM	#2
M14man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FLA Posts: 1,162 Images: 10	The Universal had a 2 piece mount. The first attaches below the stockline. The second piece than is attached to it via two large screws. This allows the upper to be removed if desired. You have the specs to the CTC of the base holes, but making a good mount will not be easy since they are grooved and mated to prevent slide. Here are 2 pics from my archives. Pictures taken years ago...

12-11-2007, 01:23 PM	#3
oldjarhead Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MO Posts: 1,914	OR1994, Try one of these outfits. The first two would be the best bet but maybe the other two can give you an idea where to look. All have reasonable prices and good service, I've used them all. Welcome to Numrich Gun Parts Corp Dixie Gun Works muzzleloading, blackpowder and rare antique gun supplies Northridge International (M1, M1 Carbine Parts) Fulton Armory Home Page

01-06-2008, 05:28 PM	#4
TomF Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2	Numerich link: 545020B Side Scope Mount W/ 1'' Rings

08-18-2009, 12:26 PM	#7
TxCowboy62 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2	What kind of comments have you received from those that purchased this scope mount? The one that I have has the mount on top as this one does and eject shells hit the scope

08-19-2009, 02:27 AM	#9
Taurus Fan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: COBRA COMMAND HEADQUARTERS Posts: 1,540	Putting a scope on an M1 Carbine is like trying to polish a turd.

08-22-2009, 10:23 PM	#12
M14man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FLA Posts: 1,162 Images: 10	I like my 9 power scope on my Universal carbine....it allows me to see my misses....

08-23-2009, 08:33 AM	#13
ironhead7544 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 252	Theres a scout type mount for the M1 carbine. Replaces the upper handguard. You have to use a forward mounted scope but thats really better for the carbine. Check with the maker of the mount to be sure it will fit the Universal as it it a bit different from the military carbine.

08-23-2009, 09:55 AM	#16
M14man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FLA Posts: 1,162 Images: 10	The misses are really contingent on how it nestled in the stock after last cleaning. I can get 2" groups at 50 yds if it's in right, to 6" groups if it is not. The 9X really allows me to see the shots, and if it's plinking and not trying for groups, really is nice.

08-25-2009, 01:01 AM	#17
TheDisinherited Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: The South Posts: 6	I don't think it's at all fair to describe the M1 Carbine as a "turd." It's a nice weapon, well made, extremely well balanced, functional and reliable. My old man handloads really accurate .30 Carbine rounds, and he can shoot really close groups with them... (I've still got nowhere near his marksmanship skills... drives me crazy). Even a "crude" weapon like an SKS or Mosin-Nagant can be really accurate if you use good ammo. I think it's fine to put a scope on an M1 Carbine, if it suits what you're planning to do with it. I'm still young, but I have not-so-great eyesight... so I understand what you old timers are talkin about

08-25-2009, 10:37 AM	#19
chiefrcd Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 41	Did he refer to us senior citizens, as " old timers".... I'm starting to feel like Gabby Hayes..........you durn tootin' partner. __________________ Have Gun ~ Will Carry S-Safety M-Motivation A-Awareness R-Responsibility T-Training

08-26-2009, 03:35 AM	#20
oldjarhead Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MO Posts: 1,914	LOL Geez, Did we scare him off? Man, I haven't thought about Gabby for years. __________________ No war has ever been won by a politician!