Rock ola found! - Page 2

tristan · 01-26-2008, 05:48 PM

Thank you for the great pictures and the great story. Your FIL looks like he's riding high, God bless him. The JL-B marking in the stock slingwell means that the stock was made by the Jamestown Lounge Co. for IBM. The BA markings was applied when the carbine went through a post-WW2 rebuild at the Benicia Arsenal in California.

chan57 · 01-27-2008, 06:26 AM

thanks for the info tristan, talking with the guys at work about getting the barrel markings and reciever markings to showup better, they suggested i just use some chalk to highlite the engravings. sounds like the easiest way. ill give it a try next sat. and post those pics also.

Dookiebutt · 01-27-2008, 08:06 AM

Don't use chalk. It is abrasive. Get a white grease pencil from the hardware store. Trim it so that fresh, soft material is exposed. Apply it and wipe off the excess. It comes off easy with bore cleaner or CLP.

chan57 · 01-27-2008, 08:50 AM

ahh, ok will do thx

hmm, after taking a nap and rereading the info tristan gave me about the stock i guess the next questions would be do i replace the stock or leave it as it is? will this effect the value? and does the stock make the gun or does the barrel and reciever?
It seems from everything i have read or found on the net is that after the m1's where taken back up, they where refitted for civilian use and just put back together from a parts bin, so to find one that has been refitted with all the parts the same is very rare, i.e. reciever,stock,barrel........am i correct in this line of thought? thx

tristan · 01-27-2008, 02:30 PM

The "restore or not" argument will soldier on past the end of time in some quarters. My recommendation would be not to replace anything on the rifle. You have a nice NRA sales carbine with the original shipping box and a known ownership history. It's a solid collectible in its own right as is and the fact that it's a Rock-Ola simply adds to the value. I don't think that swapping parts out for the "correct" Rock-Ola ones will do much either for the value of the carbine or for your wallet.

chan57 · 01-28-2008, 04:14 PM

Okay, thx tristan, will keep the rifle as is. Should make a great family heir loom.

jimb2 · 01-28-2008, 07:53 PM

I agree with Tristan on that one. It is a solid collectable as is. And if I were you, I would keep a documentation of ownership with the carbine. It adds to the value.

flarjs1 · 04-03-2008, 09:54 PM

I can't believe this but i have a Rock Ola with 6077xxx serial number.
My M1 was handed down from my dad to me and I will pass it on to my son in a year or so.

I do not have any P's,AAP or other markings just Rock Ola and it doesn't have a bayonet holder on the barrel.

My dad did a little sanding on the wood but other than that it is original and in great shape.

I believe we both have keepers.

Bob

Capt'n Mil Coll · 04-03-2008, 10:26 PM

The Rock-Ola action got put on an IBM stock probably during arsenal rebuild. Still a very nice Carbine. I would go shoot it this spring.

rondog · 04-03-2008, 11:38 PM

Beautiful! There's no reason to NOT shoot that is there? I wouldn't shoot it a lot, but I couldn't stand to just look at it either. Now, shooting an all-original Colt 1911 from WWI wouldn't be wise.

GlockMeister · 04-04-2008, 12:04 AM

Very nice looking rifle Chan. What a gift. Definitely keep it to pass on to your kids. Very nice. Happy for you. What a generous thing for your father in law to do. Why not take him with you the first time you go shooting it. Take some pictures of that also. He'd love it. With that said, has he ever shot it? Or did he get it and just keep it in the safe?

chan57 · 04-04-2008, 01:47 PM

thx for the kind words folks. and you can bet i will take him to the range in a few weeks. just not sure about that 30+yr old ammo, brass still looks very good, anyone think this ammo is any good? oh and yes he says he shot it alot back in the late sixtys.

Mooseman684 · 04-04-2008, 01:58 PM

as long as the ammo was dry stored, it will shoot just fine !!!
Rich

jimb2 · 04-07-2008, 07:15 PM

No reason that the ammo should be bad if it appears to be in good condition. The shelf life of that stuff is unknown, but you can safely bet that it is 75 years or more. I've shot plenty of 1943-44 ammo without any problem.

01-27-2008, 06:26 AM	#22
chan57 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: houston,tx Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0)	thanks for the info tristan, talking with the guys at work about getting the barrel markings and reciever markings to showup better, they suggested i just use some chalk to highlite the engravings. sounds like the easiest way. ill give it a try next sat. and post those pics also. Last edited by chan57; 01-27-2008 at 06:27 AM. Reason: typos

01-27-2008, 08:50 AM	#24
chan57 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: houston,tx Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0)	ahh, ok will do thx hmm, after taking a nap and rereading the info tristan gave me about the stock i guess the next questions would be do i replace the stock or leave it as it is? will this effect the value? and does the stock make the gun or does the barrel and reciever? It seems from everything i have read or found on the net is that after the m1's where taken back up, they where refitted for civilian use and just put back together from a parts bin, so to find one that has been refitted with all the parts the same is very rare, i.e. reciever,stock,barrel........am i correct in this line of thought? thx Last edited by chan57; 01-27-2008 at 01:18 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

01-28-2008, 07:53 PM	#27
jimb2 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 494 Trader Rating: (0)	I agree with Tristan on that one. It is a solid collectable as is. And if I were you, I would keep a documentation of ownership with the carbine. It adds to the value. __________________ I am a nobody. Nobody is perfect. Therefore, I am perfect...

04-03-2008, 09:54 PM	#28
flarjs1 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South West Florida Posts: 1 Trader Rating: (0)	M1 I can't believe this but i have a Rock Ola with 6077xxx serial number. My M1 was handed down from my dad to me and I will pass it on to my son in a year or so. I do not have any P's,AAP or other markings just Rock Ola and it doesn't have a bayonet holder on the barrel. My dad did a little sanding on the wood but other than that it is original and in great shape. I believe we both have keepers. Bob

04-03-2008, 10:26 PM	#29
Capt'n Mil Coll Military Rifle Collector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right behind you. -NRA Member- Posts: 2,016 Trader Rating: (0)	The Rock-Ola action got put on an IBM stock probably during arsenal rebuild. Still a very nice Carbine. I would go shoot it this spring. Last edited by Capt'n Mil Coll; 04-03-2008 at 10:29 PM.

01-26-2008, 05:48 PM	#21
tristan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0)	Thank you for the great pictures and the great story. Your FIL looks like he's riding high, God bless him. The JL-B marking in the stock slingwell means that the stock was made by the Jamestown Lounge Co. for IBM. The BA markings was applied when the carbine went through a post-WW2 rebuild at the Benicia Arsenal in California.

01-27-2008, 08:06 AM	#23
Dookiebutt Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,007 Trader Rating: (0)	Don't use chalk. It is abrasive. Get a white grease pencil from the hardware store. Trim it so that fresh, soft material is exposed. Apply it and wipe off the excess. It comes off easy with bore cleaner or CLP.

01-27-2008, 02:30 PM	#25
tristan Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0)	The "restore or not" argument will soldier on past the end of time in some quarters. My recommendation would be not to replace anything on the rifle. You have a nice NRA sales carbine with the original shipping box and a known ownership history. It's a solid collectible in its own right as is and the fact that it's a Rock-Ola simply adds to the value. I don't think that swapping parts out for the "correct" Rock-Ola ones will do much either for the value of the carbine or for your wallet.

01-28-2008, 04:14 PM	#26
chan57 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: houston,tx Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0)	Okay, thx tristan, will keep the rifle as is. Should make a great family heir loom.

04-03-2008, 11:38 PM	#30
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 1,224 Trader Rating: (0)	Beautiful! There's no reason to NOT shoot that is there? I wouldn't shoot it a lot, but I couldn't stand to just look at it either. Now, shooting an all-original Colt 1911 from WWI wouldn't be wise. __________________ What she doesn't know about, doesn't piss her off.....

04-04-2008, 12:04 AM	#31
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 4,883 Trader Rating: (0)	Very nice looking rifle Chan. What a gift. Definitely keep it to pass on to your kids. Very nice. Happy for you. What a generous thing for your father in law to do. Why not take him with you the first time you go shooting it. Take some pictures of that also. He'd love it. With that said, has he ever shot it? Or did he get it and just keep it in the safe? __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

04-04-2008, 01:47 PM	#32
chan57 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: houston,tx Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0)	thx for the kind words folks. and you can bet i will take him to the range in a few weeks. just not sure about that 30+yr old ammo, brass still looks very good, anyone think this ammo is any good? oh and yes he says he shot it alot back in the late sixtys. Last edited by chan57; 04-04-2008 at 01:51 PM.

04-04-2008, 01:58 PM	#33
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,191 Trader Rating: (0)	as long as the ammo was dry stored, it will shoot just fine !!! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

04-07-2008, 07:15 PM	#34
jimb2 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 494 Trader Rating: (0)	No reason that the ammo should be bad if it appears to be in good condition. The shelf life of that stuff is unknown, but you can safely bet that it is 75 years or more. I've shot plenty of 1943-44 ammo without any problem. __________________ I am a nobody. Nobody is perfect. Therefore, I am perfect...