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Old 08-24-2010, 07:58 PM   #21
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That CMP sale was probably for the corrosive AP ammo.

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Using a gun for self-defense is a major Offense in some countries.

People who have done this in a home in the UK have apparently faced sentences of years in major prisons, and this is difficult for me to comprehend.
The UK seems to have prohibited sales of sharp knives.

A number of people at Surplusrifle and Gunboards are British and can better explain it. The problem of Allowing You to Defend Yourself in Your Home from a perceived threat has been influenced by the Police Commisioners, based on comments of UK citizens.

It appears to be a crime to use a knife, if in self-defense, in your home etc.
You are the aggressor, because the UK does not believe in self-defense against an aggressor if you have any weapon in your hands.

Please show that I'm wrong about these impressions, as they were from comments on global firearms websites.

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Old 08-25-2010, 04:03 PM   #22
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Why do you have to go through a course and obtain a license to reload?

Also, if you don't mind me asking, what are the laws like if you were to use a firearm in self defense in Germany?

Germany has rules and laws about everything and is famously bureaucratic, really makes one appreciate being an American. I had to wait three years and spend $700 dollars just to register my firearms (that I had previously brought into Germany as a servicemember).

Reloading falls into the "explosives" category and so requires licensing. Hunting, shooting, reloading, everything here requires schooling. The hunter's course, for example, is 12 weeks long, and has a grueling test. I have a sport shooter's license, but was lucky and got it before the big "crackdown" on US army over here. Self-defense? Tricky, you must be a hunter or sport shooter, and basically you must have someone kill you first (!). It's very complicated about shooting someone in self defense, but it happens (rarely). You cannot own firearms solely for self-defense. The police may inspect your house at any time to ensure that you have your weapons secured properly (pistols seperated from rifles/shotguns, ammo seperated from all). If you don't, they confiscate everything. What some in America consider as "weapons safes" are required here, and must weigh 500 lbs or be bolted to the wall.

Happy you live in America?!?!? You should be!
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Old 08-25-2010, 09:39 PM   #23
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CMP is one good place but many ranges will not allow surplus ammo. Federal makes some new stuff for the M1 Garand. AE3006M1. Great ammo and its new. The bullet will not attract a magnet either. Thats another show stopper at some ranges also. Get the 200 round case on special at Cheaper Than Dirt or Midway.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:15 PM   #24
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Quote:       Originally Posted by Laufer View Post
That CMP sale was probably for the corrosive AP ammo.
It was actually for HXP ammo made from 67-68.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:21 PM   #25
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:49 PM   #26
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Well if you happen to be in Minnesota some time you can come to my place and get some. I bought non corrosive cmp ammo.
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Old 08-27-2010, 03:54 AM   #27
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Laufer,
You are right about Britain, firearms and firearms incidents are no joke. It's way more restrictive than Germany, too, and Germany is bad enough. I think some other Euro countries are even worse, but can't say that with any authority. I think in Britain, like Germany, you must prove you have some need for a firearm, such as a shooting club, or a hunter, but it's expensive and very time-consuming. Even so, there's still a loon or two, such as that incident in Britain recently where a man went on a rampage, and not too long ago, a similar incident here in Germany. The incident in Germany was due to a parent who posessed firearms legally leaving them unsecure and his son going on a rampage with them. The mayor of the city where the incident occurred asked all residents to turn in their firearms afterwards (this also included Americans possessing firearms legally!), and unbelievably, many people did so!
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Old 08-27-2010, 09:38 PM   #28
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M2MikeGolf:

That psycho kid killed people in Erfurt, from what I read a while back.

One day there might be (if not already) a much larger number of illegal handguns used in more crimes in the UK.

After several popular UK families with children are murdered in their homes within a short period, maybe Police Commissioners and Members of Parliament will question their (mentally) academic detachment from reality.
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