lets talk garand lubrication

7mmag6 · 03-23-2005, 12:11 AM

at the last garand match, one of my fellow shooters saw the lubriplate ( white assembly lube ) on my garand op-rod and told me I was out of my mind for using heavy grease on a garand, of course Im no expert, and the guy is a well known gun snob, he also told me to lightly lube the gas vent piston, not sure of the proper nomenclature I said ok, but this does not seem right to me, it seems the assembly should be dry to me. Is lubriplate ok for the op rod and should the gas valve be dry

Gyrene · 03-23-2005, 12:36 AM

7mmag6 - Lubriplate was chosen, by Springfield Armory, Springfield, Massachussets (the United States Government Armory), as the correct grease for the M1 Garand, and it usually comes in the little plastic bottles(?) that fit into the buttstock with the cleaning kit, and oiler. Lubriplate was kind of superseded by the gun grease that you can find in the same little plastic bottles(?), for the M-14, except instead of being whitish yellow, it looks more like axle grease (axle grease will work, too!). For normal temperatures (20 Degrees F. to 130 Degrees F.), the Lubriplate or the gun grease are exactly what you should use.

If you do not have Lubriplate, or the other (Government specified) gun grease, then there are several greases that are available through gun stores (Hoppes #9 Gun Grease comes to mind), that will work.

The M1 Garand system is a machine, and machines need to be lubed with grease. Oil is for cleaning and coating the metal surfaces to prevent rust, and except for -10 Degrees F. to about +10 Degrees F. it will not provide adequate lubrication for the machine.

DO NOT LUBE THE GAS CYLINDER, PERIOD!!! It is OK to wipe out the Gas Cylinder, and other parts of that system with a very lightly oiled cleaning patch for long term storage, but when you plan to shoot it you must then wipe it dry, before shooting.

As you say the guy who told you about the heavy grease is a "Snob", and he should probably have been put in his place. I recommend being a gentleman (I know you are a gentleman), and basically ignoring his comments. If you have to say anything, then remember that:
Lubriplate was chosen, by Springfield Armory, Springfield, Massachussets (the United States Government Armory), as the correct grease for the M1 Garand. You also have had the advice of Gyrene and I am sure you will get the same advice from anyone who has been around M1 Garands while in the service.

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7mmag6 · 03-23-2005, 12:54 AM

you da man gyrene you da man!!!!!!

TULAver · 03-23-2005, 02:40 PM

What did they/should you use in -20 degree conditions?

Thrawn · 03-23-2005, 03:00 PM

Penguin spit.:right:

NRAJOE · 03-23-2005, 04:03 PM

Or penguin ooze?

Thrawn · 03-23-2005, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NRAJOE

Or penguin ooze?

Weeeellllll, I was'nt gonna go that far.:insane:

gunssb · 03-23-2005, 07:28 PM

you guys are sick. Gun snobs suck - bump into them once in a while at our range. They come with their M1As with all trademarked shirts, tactical gloves, cool shades and range bags, never talk and look disparagingly at my mosin

Gyrene · 03-23-2005, 07:43 PM

TULAver - In answer to your question, "What did they/should you use in -20 degree conditions?" Dry powdered graphite works very well down to -48 Degrees F. My guess is that if we had weather colder than that in North Korea, it would have worked just as well as it did at -48 Degrees F.

gunssb - I would make a guess, that any of your Mosin's shots are comparable to any of their M1A shots. I'll go further, if they haven't had their M1A very long, and if it is the same as it was when it came from the Springfield Armory (Commercial) in Geneseo, Illinois, your Mosin will out shoot the M1A. I haven't seen one (that has been purchased in the past 2 1/2 years) that could fire more than about 45 to 60 rounds, without having to be taken apart to lube it. Most stop functioning somewhere before 35 to 40 rounds. If their M1A is one of the short M1A's (Bush rifle, Scout rifle, or SOCOM), your Mosin will always outshoot them. If you are shooting out to 1,000 yards, then the M1A's are again at a disadvantage.

The latest from the Latvian's, who use the M-14's that Clinton shipped to them to get them out of the USA, is that they would much prefer to have either AK-47/74's or FN-FAL's, and they like the M1 Garands, too. Apparently the M-14's are not working out for them. I would like to know when we can get them back!

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gunssb · 03-25-2005, 08:55 AM

Gyrene you guessed right

The M1A SOCOM guys spend more time babying the gun than actually shooting it. I'm waiting for my CMP Garand :right:

lefty o · 03-26-2005, 01:29 PM

i definately agree with the use of lubriplate on the garand. everything that has wear marks gets a light coat of lubriplate, the gas cylinder is to remain dry, and one drop of light oil down the firing pin.

jerry · 06-15-2005, 06:05 AM

Heard Lubriplate is the good stuff too.
I get the tubes from Graco pump rebuild kits at work. I cleaned my garand up and hit the recommended area's with LP. Felt wonderfull. Even sounded different. Yes, the tubes of LP fit i the stock :right:

Big Dog · 06-15-2005, 07:33 AM

My buddy and I have been using those little tubs of 'Garand Grease' for years - great stuff! It's also good to grease the bearings in desk fans - we use it here at work for that!
You know what will really PO those M1A snobs - outshoot them with a Yugo SKS! Ooh . . . they can't stand that . . . :joker:

PAPA G · 06-15-2005, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Dog

You know what will really PO those M1A snobs - outshoot them with a Yugo SKS! Ooh . . . they can't stand that . . . :joker:

whooooa tell me more!!!

03-23-2005, 12:11 AM	#1
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	lets talk garand lubrication at the last garand match, one of my fellow shooters saw the lubriplate ( white assembly lube ) on my garand op-rod and told me I was out of my mind for using heavy grease on a garand, of course Im no expert, and the guy is a well known gun snob, he also told me to lightly lube the gas vent piston, not sure of the proper nomenclature I said ok, but this does not seem right to me, it seems the assembly should be dry to me. Is lubriplate ok for the op rod and should the gas valve be dry __________________ This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine

03-23-2005, 12:36 AM	#2
Gyrene Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 886	7mmag6 - Lubriplate was chosen, by Springfield Armory, Springfield, Massachussets (the United States Government Armory), as the correct grease for the M1 Garand, and it usually comes in the little plastic bottles(?) that fit into the buttstock with the cleaning kit, and oiler. Lubriplate was kind of superseded by the gun grease that you can find in the same little plastic bottles(?), for the M-14, except instead of being whitish yellow, it looks more like axle grease (axle grease will work, too!). For normal temperatures (20 Degrees F. to 130 Degrees F.), the Lubriplate or the gun grease are exactly what you should use. If you do not have Lubriplate, or the other (Government specified) gun grease, then there are several greases that are available through gun stores (Hoppes #9 Gun Grease comes to mind), that will work. The M1 Garand system is a machine, and machines need to be lubed with grease. Oil is for cleaning and coating the metal surfaces to prevent rust, and except for -10 Degrees F. to about +10 Degrees F. it will not provide adequate lubrication for the machine. DO NOT LUBE THE GAS CYLINDER, PERIOD!!! It is OK to wipe out the Gas Cylinder, and other parts of that system with a very lightly oiled cleaning patch for long term storage, but when you plan to shoot it you must then wipe it dry, before shooting. As you say the guy who told you about the heavy grease is a "Snob", and he should probably have been put in his place. I recommend being a gentleman (I know you are a gentleman), and basically ignoring his comments. If you have to say anything, then remember that: Lubriplate was chosen, by Springfield Armory, Springfield, Massachussets (the United States Government Armory), as the correct grease for the M1 Garand. You also have had the advice of Gyrene and I am sure you will get the same advice from anyone who has been around M1 Garands while in the service. ` Last edited by Gyrene; 03-23-2005 at 12:45 AM.

03-23-2005, 12:54 AM	#3
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	you da man gyrene you da man!!!!!! __________________ This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine

03-23-2005, 02:40 PM	#4
TULAver Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 372	What did they/should you use in -20 degree conditions? __________________ It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that any people you meet from time to time are merely the product of a deranged imagination.

03-23-2005, 04:03 PM	#6
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,043 Images: 3	Or penguin ooze? __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

03-23-2005, 03:00 PM	#5
Thrawn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Okeefenokee Posts: 1,618 Images: 6	Penguin spit.:right:

03-23-2005, 07:28 PM	#8
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833	you guys are sick. Gun snobs suck - bump into them once in a while at our range. They come with their M1As with all trademarked shirts, tactical gloves, cool shades and range bags, never talk and look disparagingly at my mosin Last edited by gunssb; 03-23-2005 at 07:31 PM.

03-23-2005, 07:43 PM	#9
Gyrene Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 886	TULAver - In answer to your question, "What did they/should you use in -20 degree conditions?" Dry powdered graphite works very well down to -48 Degrees F. My guess is that if we had weather colder than that in North Korea, it would have worked just as well as it did at -48 Degrees F. gunssb - I would make a guess, that any of your Mosin's shots are comparable to any of their M1A shots. I'll go further, if they haven't had their M1A very long, and if it is the same as it was when it came from the Springfield Armory (Commercial) in Geneseo, Illinois, your Mosin will out shoot the M1A. I haven't seen one (that has been purchased in the past 2 1/2 years) that could fire more than about 45 to 60 rounds, without having to be taken apart to lube it. Most stop functioning somewhere before 35 to 40 rounds. If their M1A is one of the short M1A's (Bush rifle, Scout rifle, or SOCOM), your Mosin will always outshoot them. If you are shooting out to 1,000 yards, then the M1A's are again at a disadvantage. The latest from the Latvian's, who use the M-14's that Clinton shipped to them to get them out of the USA, is that they would much prefer to have either AK-47/74's or FN-FAL's, and they like the M1 Garands, too. Apparently the M-14's are not working out for them. I would like to know when we can get them back! ` Last edited by Gyrene; 03-23-2005 at 07:49 PM.

03-25-2005, 08:55 AM	#10
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833	Gyrene you guessed right The M1A SOCOM guys spend more time babying the gun than actually shooting it. I'm waiting for my CMP Garand :right:

03-26-2005, 01:29 PM	#11
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,785	i definately agree with the use of lubriplate on the garand. everything that has wear marks gets a light coat of lubriplate, the gas cylinder is to remain dry, and one drop of light oil down the firing pin.

06-15-2005, 06:05 AM	#12
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,870 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	Heard Lubriplate is the good stuff too. I get the tubes from Graco pump rebuild kits at work. I cleaned my garand up and hit the recommended area's with LP. Felt wonderfull. Even sounded different. Yes, the tubes of LP fit i the stock :right: __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck

06-15-2005, 07:33 AM	#13
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,205	My buddy and I have been using those little tubs of 'Garand Grease' for years - great stuff! It's also good to grease the bearings in desk fans - we use it here at work for that! You know what will really PO those M1A snobs - outshoot them with a Yugo SKS! Ooh . . . they can't stand that . . . :joker: __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.