ATF pays a visit

DaveTinNY · 06-04-2002, 06:34 AM

So I moved to NY a few months ago from CT and applied for a new C&R license for my NY address. One day I received a surprise call from an ATF inspector to come and take a look at my paperwork and arms so we scheduled for the inspection (of my big collection of two WWII Garands)... This caught me by surprise as I never expected to have an inspection in person but it happened.
Anyway she came up from Brooklyn. All went well and the agent was very nice (and pretty cute too) and I was very naive to the whole process as it was my first inspection but at least I passed with flying colors.
The most important thing is to have your paperwork in order; basically a binder or notebook of your rifle "Dispositions and Depositions"... basically two sheets of paper that have rifle manufacturers, models, serial numbers, calibers and dates of purchases or sales.
What stuck her was the fact that I knew the Garand serial numbers by memory. She must have thought I was a strange bird but explained to her that the Garands were carried by guys during WWII or later that I consider to be heroes and I want to know everything about the rifle... and shoot it too. :-)
Dave T

Stock Doc · 06-04-2002, 07:52 AM

Sounds almost like there going to check more now. With the large amount of Military weapons being sold and the hobby going full tilt the last few years they might do this more often to C&R holders . Glad to hear you had no problems. Rick B

ltcboy · 06-04-2002, 09:06 AM

That had to feak you out at first-- I sent mine in about three weeks ago and I haven't heard anything.

Full MeTal Jack · 06-04-2002, 09:55 PM

Same here, I sent mine in about two weeks ago. Will that cute agent come to vist me in Texas? Been looking at adds in shotgun news and not all wholesalers honor the C&R. Bummer!!!! looking to buy the unissed Persian Mauser and one of those Mosins in like new condition. Guess I got to do some research on that.
The folding $20 bill gave me shivers up and down my spine. See pictures of the actual catastrophe at Glen Beck's home page. cya.

NRAJOE · 06-05-2002, 11:26 AM

I've had a c&r for a year and a half and as yet I have not had the pleasure to meet one of our ATF inspectors. IF I ever do I probably won't get a cute one either.

Chris · 06-05-2002, 12:42 PM

Well I remember, when my father first had a suprse inspection for his FFL, wow wow, we came home in the family car from the store, and we were like ok, who is that...Scared the mess out of everyone.

She was nice, exceptional person, even offered her a soda, she was like I must pay you for it, I said no mam, she still left 50 cents on the desk.

That was almost 10 years ago. Never had a bad word to say about her, Ever had a prob, she knew the answer, she is great.

ltcboy · 06-05-2002, 08:16 PM

Does the ATF interview you for the C&R lisence?? I thiught they didnt.

DaveTinNY · 06-07-2002, 06:03 AM

No interview fo the C&R... Just fill out the ATF form, submit it to your local CLEO (Chief Law Enforcement Officer) for a background check and signature and then you mail it in to the ATF in Texas. About 1 to 3 months later you'll get you license - if your record is clean.
Good luck!
Dave T

DFBonnett · 06-07-2002, 06:31 PM

I actually did have an ATF interview when I applied for a C&R years ago. No big deal. One of the agents was brand new and I guess it was for training purposes.

06-04-2002, 06:34 AM	#1
DaveTinNY Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast NY Posts: 75 Trader Rating: (0)	ATF pays a visit So I moved to NY a few months ago from CT and applied for a new C&R license for my NY address. One day I received a surprise call from an ATF inspector to come and take a look at my paperwork and arms so we scheduled for the inspection (of my big collection of two WWII Garands)... This caught me by surprise as I never expected to have an inspection in person but it happened. Anyway she came up from Brooklyn. All went well and the agent was very nice (and pretty cute too) and I was very naive to the whole process as it was my first inspection but at least I passed with flying colors. The most important thing is to have your paperwork in order; basically a binder or notebook of your rifle "Dispositions and Depositions"... basically two sheets of paper that have rifle manufacturers, models, serial numbers, calibers and dates of purchases or sales. What stuck her was the fact that I knew the Garand serial numbers by memory. She must have thought I was a strange bird but explained to her that the Garands were carried by guys during WWII or later that I consider to be heroes and I want to know everything about the rifle... and shoot it too. :-) Dave T __________________ Platoon Sgt. Daniel H. Tremper KIA, hedgerow fighting, 7 JUL 1944 Vire, France

06-04-2002, 07:52 AM	#2
Stock Doc Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Middle Ohio I see water Posts: 838 Trader Rating: (0)	Sounds almost like there going to check more now. With the large amount of Military weapons being sold and the hobby going full tilt the last few years they might do this more often to C&R holders . Glad to hear you had no problems. Rick B __________________ If I cant fix it,, It must REALLY be broken! Last edited by Stock Doc; 06-04-2002 at 07:57 AM.

06-04-2002, 09:06 AM	#3
ltcboy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chicagoland area Posts: 496 Trader Rating: (0)	That had to feak you out at first-- I sent mine in about three weeks ago and I haven't heard anything. __________________ Up Bin Laden's ***!

06-04-2002, 09:55 PM	#4
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,412 Trader Rating: (0)	Same here, I sent mine in about two weeks ago. Will that cute agent come to vist me in Texas? Been looking at adds in shotgun news and not all wholesalers honor the C&R. Bummer!!!! looking to buy the unissed Persian Mauser and one of those Mosins in like new condition. Guess I got to do some research on that. The folding $20 bill gave me shivers up and down my spine. See pictures of the actual catastrophe at Glen Beck's home page. cya. __________________ [IMG]http://img287.echo.cx/img287/63/9130110x100a4vb.jpg

06-05-2002, 11:26 AM	#5
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 18,992 Trader Rating: (0)	I've had a c&r for a year and a half and as yet I have not had the pleasure to meet one of our ATF inspectors. IF I ever do I probably won't get a cute one either. __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

06-05-2002, 12:42 PM	#6
Chris HMFIC Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,834,103 Trader Rating: (0)	Well I remember, when my father first had a suprse inspection for his FFL, wow wow, we came home in the family car from the store, and we were like ok, who is that...Scared the mess out of everyone. She was nice, exceptional person, even offered her a soda, she was like I must pay you for it, I said no mam, she still left 50 cents on the desk. That was almost 10 years ago. Never had a bad word to say about her, Ever had a prob, she knew the answer, she is great. __________________ Rules \| Contributing Members I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it. --Thomas Jefferson No one has the right to deny my personal safety Need a reminder, why this site is so great?

06-05-2002, 08:16 PM	#7
ltcboy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chicagoland area Posts: 496 Trader Rating: (0)	Does the ATF interview you for the C&R lisence?? I thiught they didnt. __________________ Up Bin Laden's ***!

06-07-2002, 06:03 AM	#8
DaveTinNY Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast NY Posts: 75 Trader Rating: (0)	No interview fo the C&R... Just fill out the ATF form, submit it to your local CLEO (Chief Law Enforcement Officer) for a background check and signature and then you mail it in to the ATF in Texas. About 1 to 3 months later you'll get you license - if your record is clean. Good luck! Dave T __________________ Platoon Sgt. Daniel H. Tremper KIA, hedgerow fighting, 7 JUL 1944 Vire, France

06-07-2002, 06:31 PM	#9
DFBonnett Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0)	I actually did have an ATF interview when I applied for a C&R years ago. No big deal. One of the agents was brand new and I guess it was for training purposes.