How to get a (new) receiver???

M1D-Garand · 03-09-2007, 01:43 AM

Hi Guy's,

Someone on a dutch forum asked me to ask around here how to get a new (used) receiver.
He own's a Garand but noticed a crack in the receiver.

I don't know how that could happen (asked him but got no reply yet but I think he used hot reloads) but he want's to replace that cracked receiver.
As it is not a common rifle as it is in the US it is hard to come by such parts here in the Netherlands/Europe.
I like to know from any of you if there is a place he could buy a used receiver to replace the other one.
This receiver should be an original (not welded together) receiver. Brand/make is not a subject as long as it is a non commercially made receiver.
The seller should be able to send to this side of the big pond.
I know that takes a lot of paperwork but it's his problem so if it cost him so be it!

Thanks for looking and the help,

Rob

Otter · 03-09-2007, 06:40 AM

Depending on who made the original receiver, if they are still in business, they can replace the receiver, putting the serial number from the old one on the new one. That makes the receiver a repair or replacement with the same number, not requiring a "Sale."
I had a Colt 1911A1 receiver replaced, this way. If the company is no longer in business, or no longer in the firearm business like International Harvester, I would try a company like Caspian who is currantly making M1 receivers, ask if they can put that serial number on a new receiver. Any other receiver would require a firearm transaction.

M1D-Garand · 03-09-2007, 07:15 AM

Yup,

That's what I thought.
This receiver is a SA-receiver

So... He has to make a Firearm transaction but which gunstore has receiver only for sale???
(If they have a webstore or emailaddress that would make it easier!)

Rob

Otter · 03-09-2007, 06:29 PM

Springfield Armory may be able to help, contact them, you may be able to send them the receiver and have that number put on a new receiver, (for the cost of the new receiver.) If they put that number on the new receiver, it should be a repair or replacment and not require a sale.

lefty o · 03-09-2007, 07:17 PM

the springfield armory that originaly made M1's, and the current commercial springfield are not the same company. since you are in europe, i might try contacting berreta and see if they can be of help- they did at 1 time make M1's. otherwise its a surplus market search.

M1D-Garand · 03-10-2007, 12:06 PM

@ lefty: I will suggest that to the guy, Thanks!

Looking at the pictures placed in an other thread here a couple of weeks a go I still wonder why those f**king goverments want to destroy these old ladys so bad!

I got word about how this crack happend: The former owner had the barrel replaced because it did burst!!!!
Probably a bullettip got stuck and he fired a new round with that result.
So I wonder If he knew about that crack!!??

Another thing I was thinking about is: Welding that crack and heat-treat it again. It did work for the welded receivers to make them complete again so it should be possible to do it with a crack shouldn't it??
I mean: if a good armorer knows what he is doing it could work!
But...That should only be a last hope attempt!

Rob

Mooseman684 · 03-10-2007, 12:20 PM

Welding is an option than can be considered, IF you can find someone competent that knows welding and Metallurgy. The reciever would have to be annealed first, then the crack ground out in a slight V, then preheated and heli-arced or Tig welded then ground/machined smooth, then heated to the right temperature, quenched, and then drawn to temper in an oven for the proper length of time for the number steel used in the receiver..Finally it will have to be scaled, polished, and reparkerized...Then reassembled !
Rich
( P.S. Lookup Riverbank Armory on the web, they did have SA Receivers for about 300.00 !)
Rich

Full MeTal Jack · 03-10-2007, 08:00 PM

Rob, not to be contrary, but what happened to all those Italian Garand Receivers that all the parts came to the USA?

M1D-Garand · 03-11-2007, 05:15 AM

@FMJ,

I think they were destroyed

@ moosman,

Thanks for that address I'll put that through!

Rob

Full MeTal Jack · 03-11-2007, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M1D-Garand

@FMJ,
I think they were destroyed

Ahh!

What's wrong with THOSE People?

Good luck finding one M1D

gunnutjohn · 04-05-2007, 10:39 AM

does anybody know where an m1-d barrel might be acquired ? i`m thinking that the stock barrel on my m1 might be replaced with it, thereby giving me the option of shooting with a scope!!

Full MeTal Jack · 04-06-2007, 07:56 PM

gunnut
I'm assuming here. You can buy a M1D scope adapter for your barrel. Now for the scope rings. Not sure if they make them in 1".
Good luck on your search.
Instead of M1D barrel, how about installing a Krieger barrel.

Stock Doc · 04-07-2007, 12:03 PM

I have seen mounts like these below used without drilling the rifle. Hope this helps. Rick B

eBay: S & K no drill no tap scope mount M1 Garand (item 330105295671 end time May-01-07 16

53 PDT)

GunBroker.com Item 69540411 [Ends Apr-19-07 07:14:43 PM] Scout scope Mount kit for US M1 Garand Rifle

Sarge · 04-11-2007, 01:25 AM

Why don't you look at the gun shows in Germany. There is always a large dealer on the upper level, south side, at Stutgart that has used Garand receivers. I've bought several from him over the years. I'm sure he is at other shows also. There is a large show in northern Germany also.
Another good place would be the militaria shows at Arlon u. Ciney Belguim.
No good reason at all to buy one in the US and go thru the form 6 u. shipping hassel!
Sarge

leon · 04-21-2007, 08:10 AM

don't ever bet your life on it.

L:ee

M1D-Garand · 04-22-2007, 04:39 AM

@ Sarge,

The guy did buy a receiver in germany he told me yesterday!!
I don't know what he is going to do with the old one but I told him I was Interested for displaying purps.

Rob

03-09-2007, 01:43 AM	#1
M1D-Garand Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 369	How to get a (new) receiver??? Hi Guy's, Someone on a dutch forum asked me to ask around here how to get a new (used) receiver. He own's a Garand but noticed a crack in the receiver. I don't know how that could happen (asked him but got no reply yet but I think he used hot reloads) but he want's to replace that cracked receiver. As it is not a common rifle as it is in the US it is hard to come by such parts here in the Netherlands/Europe. I like to know from any of you if there is a place he could buy a used receiver to replace the other one. This receiver should be an original (not welded together) receiver. Brand/make is not a subject as long as it is a non commercially made receiver. The seller should be able to send to this side of the big pond. I know that takes a lot of paperwork but it's his problem so if it cost him so be it! Thanks for looking and the help, Rob __________________ 8 Bangs and a Pling

03-09-2007, 06:40 AM	#2
Otter Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 949 Images: 6	Depending on who made the original receiver, if they are still in business, they can replace the receiver, putting the serial number from the old one on the new one. That makes the receiver a repair or replacement with the same number, not requiring a "Sale." I had a Colt 1911A1 receiver replaced, this way. If the company is no longer in business, or no longer in the firearm business like International Harvester, I would try a company like Caspian who is currantly making M1 receivers, ask if they can put that serial number on a new receiver. Any other receiver would require a firearm transaction. __________________ Life is too important to be taken seriously.

03-09-2007, 07:15 AM	#3
M1D-Garand Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 369	Yup, That's what I thought. This receiver is a SA-receiver So... He has to make a Firearm transaction but which gunstore has receiver only for sale??? (If they have a webstore or emailaddress that would make it easier!) Rob __________________ 8 Bangs and a Pling Last edited by M1D-Garand; 03-09-2007 at 07:19 AM.

03-09-2007, 06:29 PM	#4
Otter Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 949 Images: 6	Springfield Armory may be able to help, contact them, you may be able to send them the receiver and have that number put on a new receiver, (for the cost of the new receiver.) If they put that number on the new receiver, it should be a repair or replacment and not require a sale. __________________ Life is too important to be taken seriously.

03-10-2007, 12:06 PM	#6
M1D-Garand Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 369	@ lefty: I will suggest that to the guy, Thanks! Looking at the pictures placed in an other thread here a couple of weeks a go I still wonder why those f**king goverments want to destroy these old ladys so bad! I got word about how this crack happend: The former owner had the barrel replaced because it did burst!!!! Probably a bullettip got stuck and he fired a new round with that result. So I wonder If he knew about that crack!!?? Another thing I was thinking about is: Welding that crack and heat-treat it again. It did work for the welded receivers to make them complete again so it should be possible to do it with a crack shouldn't it?? I mean: if a good armorer knows what he is doing it could work! But...That should only be a last hope attempt! Rob __________________ 8 Bangs and a Pling

03-09-2007, 07:17 PM	#5
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,785	the springfield armory that originaly made M1's, and the current commercial springfield are not the same company. since you are in europe, i might try contacting berreta and see if they can be of help- they did at 1 time make M1's. otherwise its a surplus market search.

03-10-2007, 12:20 PM	#7
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,638 Images: 2	Welding is an option than can be considered, IF you can find someone competent that knows welding and Metallurgy. The reciever would have to be annealed first, then the crack ground out in a slight V, then preheated and heli-arced or Tig welded then ground/machined smooth, then heated to the right temperature, quenched, and then drawn to temper in an oven for the proper length of time for the number steel used in the receiver..Finally it will have to be scaled, polished, and reparkerized...Then reassembled ! Rich ( P.S. Lookup Riverbank Armory on the web, they did have SA Receivers for about 300.00 !) Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

03-10-2007, 08:00 PM	#8
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,422 Images: 1	Rob, not to be contrary, but what happened to all those Italian Garand Receivers that all the parts came to the USA? __________________ [IMG]http://img287.echo.cx/img287/63/9130110x100a4vb.jpg

03-11-2007, 05:15 AM	#9
M1D-Garand Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 369	@FMJ, I think they were destroyed @ moosman, Thanks for that address I'll put that through! Rob __________________ 8 Bangs and a Pling Last edited by M1D-Garand; 03-11-2007 at 05:19 AM.

04-05-2007, 10:39 AM	#11
gunnutjohn Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3	does anybody know where an m1-d barrel might be acquired ? i`m thinking that the stock barrel on my m1 might be replaced with it, thereby giving me the option of shooting with a scope!!

04-06-2007, 07:56 PM	#12
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,422 Images: 1	gunnut I'm assuming here. You can buy a M1D scope adapter for your barrel. Now for the scope rings. Not sure if they make them in 1". Good luck on your search. Instead of M1D barrel, how about installing a Krieger barrel. __________________ [IMG]http://img287.echo.cx/img287/63/9130110x100a4vb.jpg

04-07-2007, 12:03 PM	#13
Stock Doc Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Middle Ohio I see water Posts: 838	I have seen mounts like these below used without drilling the rifle. Hope this helps. Rick B eBay: S & K no drill no tap scope mount M1 Garand (item 330105295671 end time May-01-07 1653 PDT) GunBroker.com Item 69540411 [Ends Apr-19-07 07:14:43 PM] Scout scope Mount kit for US M1 Garand Rifle __________________ If I cant fix it,, It must REALLY be broken!

04-11-2007, 01:25 AM	#14
Sarge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 217	Why don't you look at the gun shows in Germany. There is always a large dealer on the upper level, south side, at Stutgart that has used Garand receivers. I've bought several from him over the years. I'm sure he is at other shows also. There is a large show in northern Germany also. Another good place would be the militaria shows at Arlon u. Ciney Belguim. No good reason at all to buy one in the US and go thru the form 6 u. shipping hassel! Sarge

04-21-2007, 08:10 AM	#15
leon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6	don't ever bet your life on it. L:ee

04-22-2007, 04:39 AM	#16
M1D-Garand Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 369	@ Sarge, The guy did buy a receiver in germany he told me yesterday!! I don't know what he is going to do with the old one but I told him I was Interested for displaying purps. Rob __________________ 8 Bangs and a Pling