Win/M1rifle/M1 Carbine + Sub-Contractors

eclancy · 04-14-2007, 10:30 AM

Gentlemen,
This is a file from 1942 which shows us the M1 Garand Files for production. It also Shows us part of the Winchester M1 .30 cal Carbine Production and Mag's It also shows some of the Sub Contractors for both M1 Rifle and M1 Carbine.
This one was very hard to get off the micofilm. Sorry
If you have time I would like to hear from you guys. Again, I think it is not only to me but to let the other guys give you what they think is important.

Some data has been posted before others have not.
Check my sites if you have the time. TIA for your time and effort in this matter.
Thanks again
Clancy
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M1D-Garand · 04-14-2007, 01:20 PM

I see a lot of sub-contractor here!

Rob

Stock Doc · 04-14-2007, 06:41 PM

Ed you just found why there is a 2S plate I bet. There are two Seymour {if spelled correctly} companies contracts. Now that is neat and a good possibility. Rick B

eclancy · 04-15-2007, 11:05 AM

Stock Doc,
NICE PICK UP.
Thanks again
Clancy

Stock Doc · 04-15-2007, 12:15 PM

Thanks and in one year someone else will say they discovered it

hahahahahaha. Or they new about it for years as we always hear

. Rick B

Full MeTal Jack · 04-15-2007, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stock Doc

Ed you just found why there is a 2S plate I bet. There are two Seymour {if spelled correctly} companies contracts. Now that is neat and a good possibility. Rick B

Rick, what plate? Where?
thanks

Stock Doc · 04-15-2007, 01:05 PM

They found a 2S on the underside of Butt plates and always stated it was a Winchester part. Rick Hamby and I did allot of research and found this plate on the GHS period and EMcF. We have also found the not all Winchesters came with a 2S marked plate but since it is in books now folks are always taking off the plates when found on Springfield rifles and putting them on all WRA rifles. It is one of the biggest mistakes known to date that people do.
I always get a kick out of hearing people say "My rifle was 100% except the Butt plate It was a 2S WRA so I took it off"" or I hear" the Rifle was 100% correct except the 2S plate wasn't on it so I put it there to make it correct. It really is a big mistake when folks change these rifles without keeping the parts that were on them until they find out if something it wrong.

Yes WRA used the 2S plate but it was POSITIVELY used on Springfield rifles. The sub Contractor sold to more then just Winchester I guarantee

. Hope this helps. Rick

04-14-2007, 10:30 AM	#1
eclancy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: N. Catasauqua, Pa Posts: 1,348	Win/M1rifle/M1 Carbine + Sub-Contractors Gentlemen, This is a file from 1942 which shows us the M1 Garand Files for production. It also Shows us part of the Winchester M1 .30 cal Carbine Production and Mag's It also shows some of the Sub Contractors for both M1 Rifle and M1 Carbine. This one was very hard to get off the micofilm. Sorry If you have time I would like to hear from you guys. Again, I think it is not only to me but to let the other guys give you what they think is important. Some data has been posted before others have not. Check my sites if you have the time. TIA for your time and effort in this matter. Thanks again Clancy NRA Life Endowment NRA Training Counselor NRA Instructor FSS 90% / BW X Speed Div by 1000 = PF Stone Soda Can Hammer THA 63 __________________ http://www.garandm1rifle.com http://www.users.fast.net/~eclancy

04-14-2007, 01:20 PM	#2
M1D-Garand Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 394	I see a lot of sub-contractor here! Rob __________________ Time Will Not Dim The Glory Of Their Deeds Gen. John J. Pershing

04-14-2007, 06:41 PM	#3
Stock Doc Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Middle Ohio I see water Posts: 969	Ed you just found why there is a 2S plate I bet. There are two Seymour {if spelled correctly} companies contracts. Now that is neat and a good possibility. Rick B __________________ If I cant fix it,, It must REALLY be broken! Last edited by Stock Doc; 04-15-2007 at 12:21 PM.

04-15-2007, 11:05 AM	#4
eclancy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: N. Catasauqua, Pa Posts: 1,348	Stock Doc, NICE PICK UP. Thanks again Clancy __________________ http://www.garandm1rifle.com http://www.users.fast.net/~eclancy

04-15-2007, 12:15 PM	#5
Stock Doc Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Middle Ohio I see water Posts: 969	Thanks and in one year someone else will say they discovered it hahahahahaha. Or they new about it for years as we always hear . Rick B __________________ If I cant fix it,, It must REALLY be broken!

04-15-2007, 01:05 PM	#7
Stock Doc Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Middle Ohio I see water Posts: 969	They found a 2S on the underside of Butt plates and always stated it was a Winchester part. Rick Hamby and I did allot of research and found this plate on the GHS period and EMcF. We have also found the not all Winchesters came with a 2S marked plate but since it is in books now folks are always taking off the plates when found on Springfield rifles and putting them on all WRA rifles. It is one of the biggest mistakes known to date that people do. I always get a kick out of hearing people say "My rifle was 100% except the Butt plate It was a 2S WRA so I took it off"" or I hear" the Rifle was 100% correct except the 2S plate wasn't on it so I put it there to make it correct. It really is a big mistake when folks change these rifles without keeping the parts that were on them until they find out if something it wrong. Yes WRA used the 2S plate but it was POSITIVELY used on Springfield rifles. The sub Contractor sold to more then just Winchester I guarantee . Hope this helps. Rick __________________ If I cant fix it,, It must REALLY be broken!