Drawings of Clip Loading Machine

eclancy · 07-30-2007, 11:03 AM

Gentlemen,
The Topic speaks for itself. These are for taking a 5 rd stripper clip and then loading it into a M1 Garand Clip. Mr. John C. Garand had put in for a Patent Office on Aug. 3, 1942. If you wish email me and I can post more.
I hope you find these data of interest.
Without input from you guys no one learns anything Try to put in some info/question and we can learn more of the M1's History

Could use some help with hits to my sites.
Thanks again
Clancy
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Burke · 07-30-2007, 11:30 AM

That is a cool piece of history, do you know if that particular device was ever manufactured? I know the date is right in the middle of the Great War but it would be interesting to see how far that design went.

Your Signature picture is really touching...and so true about America today..

PS. I just checked out your eclancy site..man some really cool Letters there..
I know about the Johnson rifle and its side mount mag...The Garand was by far obviously the better choice..

eclancy · 08-01-2007, 11:03 AM

Burke,
Thanks for your comeback. I have two books out called the Garand Papers. These cover the M1 Garand fom 1920 to 1939 and are just like the one's on my sites.
Glad you like it
Clancy

Burke · 08-01-2007, 12:11 PM

Eclancy those drawings including the "unnacceptable butt plate " drawings are great.

I am in need of a Garand...I was thinking about doing the Citizen Marksmanship Program to get one..I know they have rifles from $300-700.00

Do you know of the dates of these CMP rifles? Are they Vintage surplus or Surplussed inventory>?
I love WWII history and have many books concerning the 69th Inf. and it's advances and accomplishments in Europe.

My dream (I have made it my son's dream also) is to go to remote battlefields in Europe and do some metal detecting...I have a friend in Leicster, England who traveled with a group of University archaeologists near Germany to look for ancient artifacts..They discovered nothing but WWII material...and that gave me chills of excitement.
He said the Professor told them to leave it where they found it out of respect for the fallen soldiers...he said he piped up and said "The Krauts didn't respect my Great Grandfather when they killed him..so this is for him." he pulled buckles and buttons and fragments of shells out of the ground and they were using what he called a "detector from the quid shops"

My detector was 250 bucks so I bet I could find quite a treasure of goodies out there..

I currently have a SAIGA .410 on layaway but after that my gun buying days are over except for the WW2 collection.. It's not really complete and its not a showcase of the best of WWII but the Garand would be the Showpiece of it.

Besides an Arisaka and a Schmidt Rubin the Garand is my most desired WW2 era firearm..My Grandfather used it in WW2 as a 69th infantry soldier in Europe.
So owning what he shot during the Great War would be a great thing for me as an Appreciative American..and Grandson

M1D-Garand · 08-02-2007, 05:33 AM

@Burke,

I think you will find it difficult to do some "metal detecting" in some parts of europe.
There are some laws over here that protect some sites for safety reasons (not exploded ammo) or for reasons that they protect the stuff in the ground from robbing it or destroying (not intentionally) of burrial places of not yet discoverd soldiers.
Also will it probably difficult to get your detector to Europe by plane!!

Rob

BFRANKlin · 08-03-2007, 11:51 PM

That device looks more complicated than the rifle. If any were made, where are they now, and can any be bought? Having a natural aptitude for mechanical drawing myself, I find that most interesting and can see how it works. My device looks and works like fumble-fingers. But after a few tries, it started working OK.

And Burke, you will love a Garand. It will make all of your other guns seem insignificant. I found my most excellent machine at a tiny Souther Ohio gun show that had an awesome abundance of various M1 Garands from National Matches to "Tanker" types (in .30'06) and none of them looked like new Springfields, Fultons, etc. The boxes looked old but in good condition and with proper papers. (This was even before Springfield started making new ones.) Mine was 1941 issue reimport, but with no import marks, all SA parts, new barrel and decent stock. I love it! Mr. Clancy gave me a little history. He's a smart and knowledgable man.

07-30-2007, 11:03 AM	#1
eclancy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: N. Catasauqua, Pa Posts: 1,338	Drawings of Clip Loading Machine Gentlemen, The Topic speaks for itself. These are for taking a 5 rd stripper clip and then loading it into a M1 Garand Clip. Mr. John C. Garand had put in for a Patent Office on Aug. 3, 1942. If you wish email me and I can post more. I hope you find these data of interest. Without input from you guys no one learns anything Try to put in some info/question and we can learn more of the M1's History Could use some help with hits to my sites. Thanks again Clancy Looking for Sponsors NRA Life Endowment NRA Training Counselor NRA Instructor FSS 90% / BW X Speed Div by 1000 = PF __________________ http://www.garandm1rifle.com http://www.users.fast.net/~eclancy

07-30-2007, 11:30 AM	#2
Burke Ahh..Cordite. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gun City, Arizona Posts: 515 Images: 23	That is a cool piece of history, do you know if that particular device was ever manufactured? I know the date is right in the middle of the Great War but it would be interesting to see how far that design went. Your Signature picture is really touching...and so true about America today.. PS. I just checked out your eclancy site..man some really cool Letters there.. I know about the Johnson rifle and its side mount mag...The Garand was by far obviously the better choice.. Last edited by Burke; 07-30-2007 at 11:35 AM. Reason: tardation

08-01-2007, 11:03 AM	#3
eclancy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: N. Catasauqua, Pa Posts: 1,338	Burke, Thanks for your comeback. I have two books out called the Garand Papers. These cover the M1 Garand fom 1920 to 1939 and are just like the one's on my sites. Glad you like it Clancy __________________ http://www.garandm1rifle.com http://www.users.fast.net/~eclancy

08-02-2007, 05:33 AM	#5
M1D-Garand Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 369	@Burke, I think you will find it difficult to do some "metal detecting" in some parts of europe. There are some laws over here that protect some sites for safety reasons (not exploded ammo) or for reasons that they protect the stuff in the ground from robbing it or destroying (not intentionally) of burrial places of not yet discoverd soldiers. Also will it probably difficult to get your detector to Europe by plane!! Rob __________________ 8 Bangs and a Pling

08-01-2007, 12:11 PM	#4
Burke Ahh..Cordite. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gun City, Arizona Posts: 515 Images: 23	Eclancy those drawings including the "unnacceptable butt plate " drawings are great. I am in need of a Garand...I was thinking about doing the Citizen Marksmanship Program to get one..I know they have rifles from $300-700.00 Do you know of the dates of these CMP rifles? Are they Vintage surplus or Surplussed inventory>? I love WWII history and have many books concerning the 69th Inf. and it's advances and accomplishments in Europe. My dream (I have made it my son's dream also) is to go to remote battlefields in Europe and do some metal detecting...I have a friend in Leicster, England who traveled with a group of University archaeologists near Germany to look for ancient artifacts..They discovered nothing but WWII material...and that gave me chills of excitement. He said the Professor told them to leave it where they found it out of respect for the fallen soldiers...he said he piped up and said "The Krauts didn't respect my Great Grandfather when they killed him..so this is for him." he pulled buckles and buttons and fragments of shells out of the ground and they were using what he called a "detector from the quid shops" My detector was 250 bucks so I bet I could find quite a treasure of goodies out there.. I currently have a SAIGA .410 on layaway but after that my gun buying days are over except for the WW2 collection.. It's not really complete and its not a showcase of the best of WWII but the Garand would be the Showpiece of it. Besides an Arisaka and a Schmidt Rubin the Garand is my most desired WW2 era firearm..My Grandfather used it in WW2 as a 69th infantry soldier in Europe. So owning what he shot during the Great War would be a great thing for me as an Appreciative American..and Grandson

08-03-2007, 11:51 PM	#6
BFRANKlin Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southern Ohio Posts: 258	That device looks more complicated than the rifle. If any were made, where are they now, and can any be bought? Having a natural aptitude for mechanical drawing myself, I find that most interesting and can see how it works. My device looks and works like fumble-fingers. But after a few tries, it started working OK. And Burke, you will love a Garand. It will make all of your other guns seem insignificant. I found my most excellent machine at a tiny Souther Ohio gun show that had an awesome abundance of various M1 Garands from National Matches to "Tanker" types (in .30'06) and none of them looked like new Springfields, Fultons, etc. The boxes looked old but in good condition and with proper papers. (This was even before Springfield started making new ones.) Mine was 1941 issue reimport, but with no import marks, all SA parts, new barrel and decent stock. I love it! Mr. Clancy gave me a little history. He's a smart and knowledgable man.