Post War Furniture Question (particularly IHC)

x_course · 10-30-2002, 04:39 PM

I have never found out much good information on Post War Furniture variations, especially for IHC Rifles. I have Scott Duff's Post War book, but even he has stated that much of the information is now outdated. I'm anxiously awaiting his revision. Well, as I wrote, there doesn't seem to be very much good information that I'm aware of on Postwar Furniture. I guess that might be because the differences in parts variations might be so small as compared to barrel dates, stocks, bolts, trigger group parts, etc. Buttplates for Post War rifles seems to be the only furniture part that seems to be relatively well nailed down as far as I can tell. I'm curious particularly as to what type of lower band is to be expected on a Post War Rifle, particularly IHC (I have one or two that I may consider restoring). The only thing that I know is that it's going to be a flat profile lower band, but I've seen at least two types (to my knowledge) of flat profile lower bands. I have one type which is made of pieces and is brazed together. Another type I have is one which has been cast as one part. I remember reading in The Duff books about experiments to utilize casting as a production method on various part for the M1 Rifle, but that's about all I remember. Were the cast lower bands used on original post war rifles, or did they appear later as replacement only parts? What about Stock Ferrules? Duff only mentions that the style with the largest hole is appropriate for Post War Rifles. I have this unbelieveable ability to mostly get ferrules with no hole in them, aside from one single example that has a hole, so, I have no idea what is meant by large. Does anyone have a rough measurement of what hole size would be considered "large" for a postwar ferrule?

Anxiouxly Awaiting Duff's Post War Revision...

Danny

NRAJOE · 10-30-2002, 05:04 PM

x_course, PM stockdoc if someone doesn't get to you soon.

leemozoid · 10-30-2002, 07:53 PM

Ok. IHC. The single most complicated and interesting manufacturer. IHC stock metal consists of a stamped stock ferrule with the larger hole and the swivel screw staking should be domed. The hole diameter should be just slightly smaller than a pencil eraser. The lower band is the brazed flat profile, and the buttplate should have a round headed plunger with a distinctive checkering like WRA. The wood will show signs of sanding and a beautiful shade of red. IHC wood was contracted for manufacture with Overton. The metal will be parked, not in the white or blued. Whew. I'm tired of typing. What else would you like to know.

x_course · 10-30-2002, 09:00 PM

leemozoid,
Thanks for the info. You answered the one that I most wanted to know about, the cast vs. brazed lower band usage topic. I don't know why there is the lack of info. on the Post War Rifles as compared to the WWII ones. Would it more likely be lack of interest, or the production changes and lack of recorded information and the fact that there were two outside contractors producing rifles during the 50s vs. one in WWII?

Thanks,

Danny

ltcboy · 11-06-2002, 11:56 PM

Isnt this whats makes collecting fun???

10-30-2002, 04:39 PM	#1
x_course Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0)	Post War Furniture Question (particularly IHC) I have never found out much good information on Post War Furniture variations, especially for IHC Rifles. I have Scott Duff's Post War book, but even he has stated that much of the information is now outdated. I'm anxiously awaiting his revision. Well, as I wrote, there doesn't seem to be very much good information that I'm aware of on Postwar Furniture. I guess that might be because the differences in parts variations might be so small as compared to barrel dates, stocks, bolts, trigger group parts, etc. Buttplates for Post War rifles seems to be the only furniture part that seems to be relatively well nailed down as far as I can tell. I'm curious particularly as to what type of lower band is to be expected on a Post War Rifle, particularly IHC (I have one or two that I may consider restoring). The only thing that I know is that it's going to be a flat profile lower band, but I've seen at least two types (to my knowledge) of flat profile lower bands. I have one type which is made of pieces and is brazed together. Another type I have is one which has been cast as one part. I remember reading in The Duff books about experiments to utilize casting as a production method on various part for the M1 Rifle, but that's about all I remember. Were the cast lower bands used on original post war rifles, or did they appear later as replacement only parts? What about Stock Ferrules? Duff only mentions that the style with the largest hole is appropriate for Post War Rifles. I have this unbelieveable ability to mostly get ferrules with no hole in them, aside from one single example that has a hole, so, I have no idea what is meant by large. Does anyone have a rough measurement of what hole size would be considered "large" for a postwar ferrule? Anxiouxly Awaiting Duff's Post War Revision... Danny

10-30-2002, 05:04 PM	#2
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,014 Trader Rating: (0)	x_course, PM stockdoc if someone doesn't get to you soon. __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

10-30-2002, 07:53 PM	#3
leemozoid Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SW Missouri Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (0)	Ok. IHC. The single most complicated and interesting manufacturer. IHC stock metal consists of a stamped stock ferrule with the larger hole and the swivel screw staking should be domed. The hole diameter should be just slightly smaller than a pencil eraser. The lower band is the brazed flat profile, and the buttplate should have a round headed plunger with a distinctive checkering like WRA. The wood will show signs of sanding and a beautiful shade of red. IHC wood was contracted for manufacture with Overton. The metal will be parked, not in the white or blued. Whew. I'm tired of typing. What else would you like to know. __________________ Character is doing what is right when no one is looking. Former Rep. J.C. Watts (Oklahoma)

10-30-2002, 09:00 PM	#4
x_course Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0)	thanks leemozoid, Thanks for the info. You answered the one that I most wanted to know about, the cast vs. brazed lower band usage topic. I don't know why there is the lack of info. on the Post War Rifles as compared to the WWII ones. Would it more likely be lack of interest, or the production changes and lack of recorded information and the fact that there were two outside contractors producing rifles during the 50s vs. one in WWII? Thanks, Danny

11-06-2002, 11:56 PM	#5
ltcboy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chicagoland area Posts: 496 Trader Rating: (0)	Isnt this whats makes collecting fun??? __________________ Up Bin Laden's ***!