CMP order for tools???

GlockMeister · 06-27-2009, 01:39 AM

I'm posting this here because the M1 Garand and CMP coincide with one another.

Anyhow, I was wondering if anyone can tell if to even order tools, a muzzle gauge and gas plug wrench, if a person has to have joined CMP (like what you have to do to order a rifle) just to get those items or if you only have to join if you want a firearm?

Any help will be appreciated.

FWIW, I placed an order and it was declined on my credit card. When I called my credit card company to ask why it was declined, they said it was actually approved but the problem was, there is/was no dollar amount charged. Which I'd add I was able to confirm at the credit cards website and viewing my transactions.

On CMPs website for my order it says this:

"Thank you for your on-line order. Your credit card has not been charged at this time. Your order will be reviewed by CMP staff prior to final processing and credit card charging".

So again, if anyone can help me out and let me know I'd appreciate it...

gunnerdave · 06-27-2009, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlockMeister

I'm posting this here because the M1 Garand and CMP coincide with one another.

Anyhow, I was wondering if anyone can tell if to even order tools, a muzzle gauge and gas plug wrench, if a person has to have joined CMP (like what you have to do to order a rifle) just to get those items or if you only have to join if you want a firearm?

Any help will be appreciated.

FWIW, I placed an order and it was declined on my credit card. When I called my credit card company to ask why it was declined, they said it was actually approved but the problem was, there is/was no dollar amount charged. Which I'd add I was able to confirm at the credit cards website and viewing my transactions.

On CMPs website for my order it says this:

"Thank you for your on-line order. Your credit card has not been charged at this time. Your order will be reviewed by CMP staff prior to final processing and credit card charging".

So again, if anyone can help me out and let me know I'd appreciate it...

Apparently, your order has been accepted, and is in the long line for processing. Your credit card won't be charged until a few days before your order ships. Your order status is most likely labelled "open" or "Processing" if you check the Pending orders link on the e-store. A few days after it switches to final Processing (Which isn't displayed) , your credit card will be hit. My order for the gas plug wrench went to processing quickly but the ammo order said open for almost 3 months.If there's a problem, Customer Service will e-mail you. They are the BEST.

As the sales page says, be patient. The run on rifles, & ammo panic-buying/hoarding has overwhelmed the sales staff.

I ordered 480 rounds of HXP ammo & a gas plug wrench (seperate orders) on 28 Feb & got it just over 90 days later. The wrench got here a day earlier, as it was flown in with the Fedex overnight (Sapce A maybe?). Might take a while, but you'll eventually get your tools. The gas plug wrench fits nicely, & the one I got is solid brass.

PS

The ammo is HXP 69 and it's the nicest-looking of the 4 orders I've gotten over the last 3 years. Not one round lost to corrosion, unlike the HXP 68 I got that had about 40 rounds too corroded to shoot without cleaning it up. IIRC, 10 or 12 rounds are pretty badly corroded.

HTH

Dave

GlockMeister · 06-27-2009, 02:46 AM

Thanks gunneredave. I sent them an email saying I was a little confused and explained why.

That was before I thought of asking the question I did here of course. I thought, well maybe someone here can tell me and I'll know sooner? lol

Thanks for replying to my question.

But to confirm, I don't have to be a member to get ammo either then? Just to get a rifle/s?

gunnerdave · 06-27-2009, 02:50 AM

I think you have to meet all the requirements to order ammo and rifles. The Garand Collectors' Association will fill the requirement for club affiliaition. If you have a CCW as well, you should have no problem even with ordering rifles/ammo:

Eligibility Requirements

GlockMeister · 06-27-2009, 03:06 AM

No, don't have a CCW GD. Live in Illinois. lol But too bad my FOID card didn't require and live fire training.

I'll have to find one other thing besides the membership to the GCA to qualify. That's going to be a tough one.

No CCW, never competed in any competition, no current or past military service, no current or past law enforcement service, no distinguished, instructor or coach status, no FFL or C&R, no completion of a hunter safety course and no certification from a range or club official or law enforcement officer witnessing shooting activity.

But to be honest, that last one, about an LEO witnessing my shooting activity, I might be able to get as aI have been shooting with an LEO a while back and I could probably get him to witness it?

GlockMeister · 06-27-2009, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunnerdave

I think you have to meet all the requirements to order ammo and rifles. The Garand Collectors' Association will fill the requirement for club affiliaition. If you have a CCW as well, you should have no problem even with ordering rifles/ammo:

Eligibility Requirements

Was wondering if you think tools falls under the parts category? Based on this statement on the eligibility link/page that is?

Note: Club membership IS required for purchase of rifles, parts, and ammunition.

Orlando · 06-27-2009, 07:26 AM

Its on the web site. Club membership and firearms activity is required for firearms purchase. Membership required for ammo, tools etc

Quote:

"Note: Club membership IS required for purchase of rifles, parts, and ammunition.
Club membership is NOT required for instructional publications or videos or CMP memorabilia."

saahole · 06-27-2009, 01:21 PM

be prepared to wait for those tools. my barrel and barrel vise took 3 months.
but they finally came through. imho their prices are fantastic, but that is canceled by the long wait. i saved 50 bucks on the barrel and could not find a better barrel vice for the m-1, so wait i did.

add: did not have to join or submit any documentation to purchase.

rondog · 06-27-2009, 02:11 PM

An order is an order. They've been getting TONS of mail and orders every day, and they don't know what's in your envelope until someone can get around to opening and sorting it. So you can't expect a tool order to be processed much quicker than a rifle order. Sure, once it's opened, read and sorted, it should go into a shorter queue than rifle and ammo orders, but it's still gonna take awhile.

If you just want a tool, might be better to order it elsewhere. Which reminds me, I need one too....

JimBob · 06-27-2009, 05:50 PM

GlockMeister-If i'm not mistaken you can use your FOID card as proof of firearms familiarity,I would e-mail them and ask if it's acceptable.The Illinois State Rifle Assoc.is an acceptable CMP affiliated organization.I have found that unless the savings is great that it's a lot quicker to order the tools and books etc.somewhere else.I'm not going to wait 6 months on a tool or book.

Orlando · 06-27-2009, 05:53 PM

You can "slightly" speed the process up by ordering ,tools, ammo, etc online on E-Store. Firearms have to be mail ordered

rondog · 06-27-2009, 06:55 PM

E-mail, bah. Pick up the phone!

Orlando · 06-27-2009, 07:25 PM

They have asked not to use phone as it will slow things down worse than they already are. E-Store your order

Ben Hartley · 06-27-2009, 07:37 PM

The instructions at the CMP website

Ordering Information

read as follows:

Ordering by phone:
Customers who have previously provided proof of eligibility may order ammunition, parts, and some other items by phone. If you prefer to order by phone, please call us at 256-835-8455 Monday-Friday between 9AM and 2PM CST. Credit card information required for telephone orders.

There is also a request in force that one not call. (Dunno 'bout you, but the status of my order for ammo dating back to mid-April is hardly an earth-shattering emergency. [grin])

HTH

Ben Hartley

Orlando · 06-27-2009, 07:42 PM

Duh, no kidding.
You can call , never said you couldnt. They asked to keep calls to a minimum so they can keep staff working on other things. Do as you want , just trying to be helpful and keep the machine moving

GlockMeister · 06-27-2009, 10:52 PM

Well I've seen another muzzle gauge on gunbroker. I just don't know how good it is compared to the CMP one. If it's just as good, trust me, I'll just order it. As for the gas plug, I don't need it but figured as long as I'm ordering the gauge I might as well get it.

As for my FOID card, it said your FOID card can be used, but only if live fire training was done as a requirement of getting it. And in Illinois, it isn't required and I never did it so I don't believe I can use my FOID.

And I saw this "Note: Club membership IS required for purchase of rifles, parts, and ammunition". Again, do the tools fall under the parts category?

gandog56 · 06-27-2009, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlockMeister

No, don't have a CCW GD. Live in Illinois. lol But too bad my FOID card didn't require and live fire training.

I'll have to find one other thing besides the membership to the GCA to qualify. That's going to be a tough one.

No CCW, never competed in any competition, no current or past military service, no current or past law enforcement service, no distinguished, instructor or coach status, no FFL or C&R, no completion of a hunter safety course and no certification from a range or club official or law enforcement officer witnessing shooting activity.

But to be honest, that last one, about an LEO witnessing my shooting activity, I might be able to get as aI have been shooting with an LEO a while back and I could probably get him to witness it?

I joined the Illinois State Rifle Association and got my C&R to be qualified.

gunnerdave · 06-28-2009, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GlockMeister

Well I've seen another muzzle gauge on gunbroker. I just don't know how good it is compared to the CMP one. If it's just as good, trust me, I'll just order it. As for the gas plug, I don't need it but figured as long as I'm ordering the gauge I might as well get it.

As for my FOID card, it said your FOID card can be used, but only if live fire training was done as a requirement of getting it. And in Illinois, it isn't required and I never did it so I don't believe I can use my FOID.

And I saw this "Note: Club membership IS required for purchase of rifles, parts, and ammunition". Again, do the tools fall under the parts category?

No.

From the CMP E- Store New User Instructions:

"Purchase of CMP training materials, publications, videos, books, tools, equipment & accessories, targets and memorabilia is open to the general public as well as members of CMP affiliated organizations".

HTH

Dave

GlockMeister · 06-28-2009, 01:34 AM

That's what I wanted and was hoping to hear GunnerDave. Thanks again.

rondog · 06-28-2009, 02:17 AM

I don't have a FOID card, not needed here in CO, but they accepted my CWP, and it didn't "require live fire training" either.

06-27-2009, 01:39 AM	#1
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,578	CMP order for tools??? I'm posting this here because the M1 Garand and CMP coincide with one another. Anyhow, I was wondering if anyone can tell if to even order tools, a muzzle gauge and gas plug wrench, if a person has to have joined CMP (like what you have to do to order a rifle) just to get those items or if you only have to join if you want a firearm? Any help will be appreciated. FWIW, I placed an order and it was declined on my credit card. When I called my credit card company to ask why it was declined, they said it was actually approved but the problem was, there is/was no dollar amount charged. Which I'd add I was able to confirm at the credit cards website and viewing my transactions. On CMPs website for my order it says this: "Thank you for your on-line order. Your credit card has not been charged at this time. Your order will be reviewed by CMP staff prior to final processing and credit card charging". So again, if anyone can help me out and let me know I'd appreciate it... __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke"

06-27-2009, 02:46 AM	#3
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,578	Thanks gunneredave. I sent them an email saying I was a little confused and explained why. That was before I thought of asking the question I did here of course. I thought, well maybe someone here can tell me and I'll know sooner? lol Thanks for replying to my question. But to confirm, I don't have to be a member to get ammo either then? Just to get a rifle/s? __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke"

06-27-2009, 02:50 AM	#4
gunnerdave Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 653	I think you have to meet all the requirements to order ammo and rifles. The Garand Collectors' Association will fill the requirement for club affiliaition. If you have a CCW as well, you should have no problem even with ordering rifles/ammo: Eligibility Requirements __________________ Show me where Josef Stalin is buried & I'll show you a communist plot.

06-27-2009, 03:06 AM	#5
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,578	No, don't have a CCW GD. Live in Illinois. lol But too bad my FOID card didn't require and live fire training. I'll have to find one other thing besides the membership to the GCA to qualify. That's going to be a tough one. No CCW, never competed in any competition, no current or past military service, no current or past law enforcement service, no distinguished, instructor or coach status, no FFL or C&R, no completion of a hunter safety course and no certification from a range or club official or law enforcement officer witnessing shooting activity. But to be honest, that last one, about an LEO witnessing my shooting activity, I might be able to get as aI have been shooting with an LEO a while back and I could probably get him to witness it? __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke"

06-27-2009, 01:21 PM	#8
saahole Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 55	be prepared to wait for those tools. my barrel and barrel vise took 3 months. but they finally came through. imho their prices are fantastic, but that is canceled by the long wait. i saved 50 bucks on the barrel and could not find a better barrel vice for the m-1, so wait i did. add: did not have to join or submit any documentation to purchase. Last edited by saahole; 06-27-2009 at 01:22 PM. Reason: add

06-27-2009, 07:26 AM	#7
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,162	Its on the web site. Club membership and firearms activity is required for firearms purchase. Membership required for ammo, tools etc Quote: "Note: Club membership IS required for purchase of rifles, parts, and ammunition. Club membership is NOT required for instructional publications or videos or CMP memorabilia."

06-27-2009, 02:11 PM	#9
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 3,220	An order is an order. They've been getting TONS of mail and orders every day, and they don't know what's in your envelope until someone can get around to opening and sorting it. So you can't expect a tool order to be processed much quicker than a rifle order. Sure, once it's opened, read and sorted, it should go into a shorter queue than rifle and ammo orders, but it's still gonna take awhile. If you just want a tool, might be better to order it elsewhere. Which reminds me, I need one too.... __________________ I child-proofed my house, but they still keep getting in!

06-27-2009, 05:50 PM	#10
JimBob Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: East Central Illinois Posts: 720	GlockMeister-If i'm not mistaken you can use your FOID card as proof of firearms familiarity,I would e-mail them and ask if it's acceptable.The Illinois State Rifle Assoc.is an acceptable CMP affiliated organization.I have found that unless the savings is great that it's a lot quicker to order the tools and books etc.somewhere else.I'm not going to wait 6 months on a tool or book.

06-27-2009, 05:53 PM	#11
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,162	You can "slightly" speed the process up by ordering ,tools, ammo, etc online on E-Store. Firearms have to be mail ordered

06-27-2009, 06:55 PM	#12
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 3,220	E-mail, bah. Pick up the phone! __________________ I child-proofed my house, but they still keep getting in!

06-27-2009, 07:25 PM	#13
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,162	They have asked not to use phone as it will slow things down worse than they already are. E-Store your order

06-27-2009, 07:37 PM	#14
Ben Hartley Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Jaffrey, New Hampshire Posts: 180	CMP Phone Orders The instructions at the CMP website Ordering Information read as follows: *Ordering by phone:* Customers who have previously provided proof of eligibility may order ammunition, parts, and some other items by phone. If you prefer to order by phone, please call us at 256-835-8455 Monday-Friday between 9AM and 2PM CST. Credit card information required for telephone orders. There is also a request in force that one not call. (Dunno 'bout you, but the status of my order for ammo dating back to mid-April is hardly an earth-shattering emergency. [grin]) HTH Ben Hartley Last edited by Ben Hartley; 06-27-2009 at 07:43 PM. Reason: corrected spelling

06-27-2009, 07:42 PM	#15
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,162	Duh, no kidding. You can call , never said you couldnt. They asked to keep calls to a minimum so they can keep staff working on other things. Do as you want , just trying to be helpful and keep the machine moving

06-27-2009, 10:52 PM	#16
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,578	Well I've seen another muzzle gauge on gunbroker. I just don't know how good it is compared to the CMP one. If it's just as good, trust me, I'll just order it. As for the gas plug, I don't need it but figured as long as I'm ordering the gauge I might as well get it. As for my FOID card, it said your FOID card can be used, but only if live fire training was done as a requirement of getting it. And in Illinois, it isn't required and I never did it so I don't believe I can use my FOID. And I saw this "Note: Club membership IS required for purchase of rifles, parts, and ammunition". Again, do the tools fall under the parts category? __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke"

06-28-2009, 01:34 AM	#19
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,578	That's what I wanted and was hoping to hear GunnerDave. Thanks again. __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke"

06-28-2009, 02:17 AM	#20
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 3,220	I don't have a FOID card, not needed here in CO, but they accepted my CWP, and it didn't "require live fire training" either. __________________ I child-proofed my house, but they still keep getting in!