Big 5 Garand?

Iron_Colonel · 06-30-2009, 10:50 PM

I saw an M1 Garand for sale at Big 5 in Lacey for $799. I didn't look at it to see what kind it was, or where it came from but I did notice it there. I was looking for Mosins, and their over priced Yugo 24/47 Mausers. Hard to tell how good it was without gauges. Might check them out closer this weekend and report back. I don't have any gauges, but could report back any relevant information if any of the employees know anything about it (which I would guess probably not) or I find out by manufacturer or serials.

texnmidwest · 07-01-2009, 07:22 AM

Would be interesting to see what the story is on it. I know the carbines I see in Duhnam's are junk. We don't have Big 5 around here.

JimBob · 07-01-2009, 11:11 AM

Reports on these so far has been there pretty much junkers.Believed to be Century Arms.Way overpriced for condition is the general consensus.

rondog · 07-01-2009, 02:55 PM

Yeah, from what I've heard, you don't want one. Expensive wallhangers. And that info came from a Big 5 manager. You'd be better off driving to the CMP store and buying one in person.

saahole · 07-01-2009, 04:02 PM

i just got back from looking at one here in cali., they only have one. its a springfield #590xxxx looked in real ruff shape. stock looked liked it was soaked in oil at one time but maybe could be cleaned up. finish on gas cylinder was way worn. the barrel finish looked very dark. the reciever looked only ok. i just may go back with some gauges and see more. 799 is a little steep though.

ArkansasHunter · 07-01-2009, 04:15 PM

Heads Zup...I just called Gander Mountain in Texarkana, Tx. One of the boss's there bought a HUGE collection of M1-Garands from an estate. That there selling at this store.

I saw 3 of them fathers day and these looked new, Thought I'd let yall know...A.H

rondog · 07-01-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

Heads Zup...I just called Gander Mountain in Texarkana, Tx. One of the boss's there bought a HUGE collection of M1-Garands from an estate. That there selling at this store.

I saw 3 of them fathers day and these looked new, Thought I'd let yall know...A.H

You ARE going to bring us photos of your new M1, right?

ArkansasHunter · 07-01-2009, 09:36 PM

ME !!! No I'm not buying one. I'm jest pass'in it along. That's all. Jest pass'in it along ! LOL

texnmidwest · 07-01-2009, 10:24 PM

I just missed a Garand at the Gander up here. An employee bought the darn thing!!! 539 for a field grade CMP springfield garand.

Iron_Colonel · 07-01-2009, 11:22 PM

Yea the one looked pretty rough I saw too. I know CMP is the place to get them, thats where my first came from. I just with there was one closer to WA. Driving would be expensive. I could ride my motorcycle, and it would cost half as much. And I wouldn't have a problem strapping it to the handle bars, it just covers up the speedo

texnmidwest · 07-01-2009, 11:37 PM

Just order one through mail order IC! It takes a while to ship but you will get a nice rifle. I have one Garand and One Carbine on order along with 5 cans of garand ammo.

Iron_Colonel · 07-02-2009, 12:35 AM

Yea, I was looking at some 03s, but we'll see. A little tight right now on funds. Haven't been to a the last couple local gun shows in hopes to save up a little money. And after August, I won't have any more loan payments, so I'll be able to save up some more there too. I'd like to do something soon. Also might have a line on a Remington M91 Mosin too at the next gun show middle of this month.

saahole · 07-03-2009, 04:40 PM

i just checked the one here near me again. springfield receiver. muzzle was at 2, i could not check the throat erosion. and could not check for proper head space either.
but i did take a empty shell with some copper tape at the end that would lengthen the shell about .009 inches and the bolt would not come even close to closing. alot of the receiver was caked with goop, but operated smoothly. the stock was just plane dirty with no real damage or major dents/ splinters.
i guess i would call this one a service grade.
the manager said they are all suposed to be able to be fired.

call me the dumb a$$ i bought the thang. being in los angeles you just dont see these , i just had to it. the way i figure it, it was only 200 more than the cmp service grade and not much of a wait. yes i know i could do alot with $200, but what the hey?

Iron_Colonel · 07-04-2009, 01:33 AM

Well where are the pics to prove it!?

saahole · 07-04-2009, 02:30 AM

10 day wait in kali

texnmidwest · 07-04-2009, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saahole

i just checked the one here near me again. springfield receiver. muzzle was at 2, i could not check the throat erosion. and could not check for proper head space either.
but i did take a empty shell with some copper tape at the end that would lengthen the shell about .009 inches and the bolt would not come even close to closing. alot of the receiver was caked with goop, but operated smoothly. the stock was just plane dirty with no real damage or major dents/ splinters.
i guess i would call this one a service grade.
the manager said they are all suposed to be able to be fired.

call me the dumb a$$ i bought the thang. being in los angeles you just dont see these , i just had to it. the way i figure it, it was only 200 more than the cmp service grade and not much of a wait. yes i know i could do alot with $200, but what the hey?

Congrats!!! No need to feel bad about buying a rifle! Muzzle wear and condition does not sound too bad to me. ME of a 2 is right in line with the wear of a field or even service grade rifle. On the rifles I have seen the TE should not be much more than the ME. So my guess is there is plenty of shooting life left in that barrel. May be there is an import stamp on the barrel. Not a big deal for a shooter. Only thing else is you may need to change some springs. Easily done. Plus, that is a great way to learn about the M1!

nathangdad · 07-04-2009, 07:52 AM

but the price seems a bit on the low side for a quality gun.

If nothing else, take a good look through the bore.

However, one the plus side it could be one of those deals we all seek but seldom if ever really find.

Orlando · 07-04-2009, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nathangdad

but the price seems a bit on the low side for a quality gun.

If nothing else, take a good look through the bore.

However, one the plus side it could be one of those deals we all seek but seldom if ever really find.

Low side?

Orlando · 07-04-2009, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saahole

and could not check for proper head space either.
but i did take a empty shell with some copper tape at the end that would lengthen the shell about .009 inches and the bolt would not come even close to closing. alot of the receiver was caked with goop,

I would not rely on this method to check headspace, especially if it was a fired case

saahole · 07-04-2009, 12:39 PM

for sure i won't rely on that method for head space. but tearing it down to check was out of the question in a big five store. i may find out the in the future that shimming up a shell case to make a makeshift gauge is a stupid idea, but thats all i could think of to do.

06-30-2009, 10:50 PM	#1
Iron_Colonel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Washington St. Posts: 3,275	Big 5 Garand? I saw an M1 Garand for sale at Big 5 in Lacey for $799. I didn't look at it to see what kind it was, or where it came from but I did notice it there. I was looking for Mosins, and their over priced Yugo 24/47 Mausers. Hard to tell how good it was without gauges. Might check them out closer this weekend and report back. I don't have any gauges, but could report back any relevant information if any of the employees know anything about it (which I would guess probably not) or I find out by manufacturer or serials. __________________ Mosin Nagant evangelist on a mission to convert YOU!

07-01-2009, 07:22 AM	#2
texnmidwest Some People's kids.... Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 6,975	Would be interesting to see what the story is on it. I know the carbines I see in Duhnam's are junk. We don't have Big 5 around here. __________________ never pass up a bathroom, never waste a ** , and never trust a fart.

07-01-2009, 02:55 PM	#4
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 3,296	Yeah, from what I've heard, you don't want one. Expensive wallhangers. And that info came from a Big 5 manager. You'd be better off driving to the CMP store and buying one in person. __________________ I child-proofed my house, but they still keep getting in!

07-01-2009, 04:15 PM	#6
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas. Posts: 17,200	Heads Zup...I just called Gander Mountain in Texarkana, Tx. One of the boss's there bought a HUGE collection of M1-Garands from an estate. That there selling at this store. I saw 3 of them fathers day and these looked new, Thought I'd let yall know...A.H __________________ IN GOD WE TRUST NRA MEMBER

07-01-2009, 09:36 PM	#8
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas. Posts: 17,200	ME !!! No I'm not buying one. I'm jest pass'in it along. That's all. Jest pass'in it along ! LOL __________________ IN GOD WE TRUST NRA MEMBER

07-01-2009, 11:11 AM	#3
JimBob Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: East Central Illinois Posts: 725	Reports on these so far has been there pretty much junkers.Believed to be Century Arms.Way overpriced for condition is the general consensus.

07-01-2009, 04:02 PM	#5
saahole Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 55	i just got back from looking at one here in cali., they only have one. its a springfield #590xxxx looked in real ruff shape. stock looked liked it was soaked in oil at one time but maybe could be cleaned up. finish on gas cylinder was way worn. the barrel finish looked very dark. the reciever looked only ok. i just may go back with some gauges and see more. 799 is a little steep though.

07-01-2009, 10:24 PM	#9
texnmidwest Some People's kids.... Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 6,975	I just missed a Garand at the Gander up here. An employee bought the darn thing!!! 539 for a field grade CMP springfield garand. __________________ never pass up a bathroom, never waste a ** , and never trust a fart.

07-01-2009, 11:22 PM	#10
Iron_Colonel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Washington St. Posts: 3,275	Yea the one looked pretty rough I saw too. I know CMP is the place to get them, thats where my first came from. I just with there was one closer to WA. Driving would be expensive. I could ride my motorcycle, and it would cost half as much. And I wouldn't have a problem strapping it to the handle bars, it just covers up the speedo __________________ Mosin Nagant evangelist on a mission to convert YOU!

07-01-2009, 11:37 PM	#11
texnmidwest Some People's kids.... Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 6,975	Just order one through mail order IC! It takes a while to ship but you will get a nice rifle. I have one Garand and One Carbine on order along with 5 cans of garand ammo. __________________ never pass up a bathroom, never waste a ** , and never trust a fart.

07-02-2009, 12:35 AM	#12
Iron_Colonel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Washington St. Posts: 3,275	Yea, I was looking at some 03s, but we'll see. A little tight right now on funds. Haven't been to a the last couple local gun shows in hopes to save up a little money. And after August, I won't have any more loan payments, so I'll be able to save up some more there too. I'd like to do something soon. Also might have a line on a Remington M91 Mosin too at the next gun show middle of this month. __________________ Mosin Nagant evangelist on a mission to convert YOU!

07-03-2009, 04:40 PM	#13
saahole Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 55	i just checked the one here near me again. springfield receiver. muzzle was at 2, i could not check the throat erosion. and could not check for proper head space either. but i did take a empty shell with some copper tape at the end that would lengthen the shell about .009 inches and the bolt would not come even close to closing. alot of the receiver was caked with goop, but operated smoothly. the stock was just plane dirty with no real damage or major dents/ splinters. i guess i would call this one a service grade. the manager said they are all suposed to be able to be fired. call me the dumb a$$ i bought the thang. being in los angeles you just dont see these , i just had to it. the way i figure it, it was only 200 more than the cmp service grade and not much of a wait. yes i know i could do alot with $200, but what the hey?

07-04-2009, 01:33 AM	#14
Iron_Colonel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Washington St. Posts: 3,275	Well where are the pics to prove it!? __________________ Mosin Nagant evangelist on a mission to convert YOU!

07-04-2009, 02:30 AM	#15
saahole Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 55	10 day wait in kali

07-04-2009, 07:52 AM	#17
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 5,164	Interesting, but the price seems a bit on the low side for a quality gun. If nothing else, take a good look through the bore. However, one the plus side it could be one of those deals we all seek but seldom if ever really find.

07-04-2009, 12:39 PM	#20
saahole Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 55	for sure i won't rely on that method for head space. but tearing it down to check was out of the question in a big five store. i may find out the in the future that shimming up a shell case to make a makeshift gauge is a stupid idea, but thats all i could think of to do.