M1 Garand Problem

mdolson3 · 10-06-2009, 08:02 PM

Hello,
I took my M1 to an outdoor range Sunday morning. I fired about 15 rounds, and then it blew apart when I fired the next round, and I am not sure why. I used military rounds that I had acquired years ago.
I bought the gun in 1974, and have only fired about 100 rounds since. I live in Phoenix, Arizona, and I have it stored in a gun cabinet in my garage. That very day I moved my gun cabinet inside our house.
There could be multiple reasons this happened: the rounds I have are bad, the AZ heat dried out the wood, or there is something wrong internally. Again, I am not sure.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks

killsnapz · 10-06-2009, 08:09 PM

Man sorry for your bad luck. That stock looks like it was in nice shape too. I can only think of one thing that could cause that. There had to be a hairline crack in that stock. Possiblly the dry heat? You can still buy a new stock at least and get her back into shooting agian.

Michael

GlockMeister · 10-06-2009, 08:13 PM

First off, I have no clue, just guessing based on where it came apart? But, is the op rod bent or did it get bent?

Clogged gas port causing pressure? Again, I have no clue, completely guessing. But until someone chimes in that does know, things you could check?

Or a weak spot in the stock and it just split from the bang?

Defintely have it inspected before spending the cash on a new stock or before shooting it again...

Dookiebutt · 10-06-2009, 09:36 PM

What ammo were you using?

M14man · 10-06-2009, 10:10 PM

If there was no split, separation, or primer rupture;that is the cartridge case looks normal, then I would say the stock was too dry from sitting years in that heat. You basically dried it out in a 'heat oven' over the years.

rl69 · 10-06-2009, 10:11 PM

all i can say is sorry that was one nice looking rifle but like glock said get you a new stock have it looked at by a smith

texnmidwest · 10-06-2009, 10:25 PM

My best guess is that the dry air where you lived dried out the wood to where it were too brittle. Just my guess of course. I am very sad for you. BUT, the rifle should be OK and nothing seems to have happened that a new stock won't fix!

Ericc · 10-06-2009, 11:26 PM

What does the last cartridge casing look like? Did it eject? Is it intact? The answer to these questions will tell us what happened.

SightNSqueeze · 10-07-2009, 12:01 AM

If there isn't anything out of the ordinary with the moving parts, which is not obvious from the pics, and if the spent cases are O.K., then it must be a dry stock. There are plenty of newly made and like-new stocks out there. Just keep the stock hardware and get a new stock.

Orlando · 10-07-2009, 07:34 AM

Need more info.
What ammo, headstamp? Korean PS? What does the case look like?
Any damage to rifle other than stock?
Please post more pics

mdolson3 · 10-09-2009, 05:22 PM

Thanks for everyone's input, I appreciate it. I am going to have it checked out by a gunsmith, and then look into buying a gunsmith. Does anyone live in the PHX area and know a good gunsmith? Also, does anyone know where I can purchase M1 stocks? I would love to be able to get one close to the same shade of color. Can I pick out which stock I can buy?
Thanks again

Orlando · 10-09-2009, 07:38 PM

How about some info on the ammo you used

JimBob · 10-09-2009, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdolson3

Thanks for everyone's input, I appreciate it. I am going to have it checked out by a gunsmith, and then look into buying a gunsmith. Does anyone live in the PHX area and know a good gunsmith? Also, does anyone know where I can purchase M1 stocks? I would love to be able to get one close to the same shade of color. Can I pick out which stock I can buy?
Thanks again

You might try here for a stock Collectible firearms, military rifle stock, parts and militaria, M1 Garand stocks M1 rifle, 1903 Springfield. They are in Chandler.They might even be able to help you out finding a Garand knowledgeable smith.

gbear-48 · 10-10-2009, 06:51 AM

CMP sells newly made Garand stocks.
www.thecmp.org

Click on E-Store , then Parts , Commercial.

mdolson3 · 10-16-2009, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orlando

How about some info on the ammo you used

30-06 military rounds

Thanks again for your help everyone. I'll look into those places for M1 stocks.

Orlando · 10-16-2009, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdolson3

30-06 military rounds

Thanks again for your help everyone. I'll look into those places for M1 stocks.

Aaah , what military rds? Whats the headstamp?

10-06-2009, 08:02 PM	#1
mdolson3 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3	M1 Garand Problem Hello, I took my M1 to an outdoor range Sunday morning. I fired about 15 rounds, and then it blew apart when I fired the next round, and I am not sure why. I used military rounds that I had acquired years ago. I bought the gun in 1974, and have only fired about 100 rounds since. I live in Phoenix, Arizona, and I have it stored in a gun cabinet in my garage. That very day I moved my gun cabinet inside our house. There could be multiple reasons this happened: the rounds I have are bad, the AZ heat dried out the wood, or there is something wrong internally. Again, I am not sure. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks Attached Thumbnails

10-06-2009, 08:13 PM	#3
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,676	First off, I have no clue, just guessing based on where it came apart? But, is the op rod bent or did it get bent? Clogged gas port causing pressure? Again, I have no clue, completely guessing. But until someone chimes in that does know, things you could check? Or a weak spot in the stock and it just split from the bang? Defintely have it inspected before spending the cash on a new stock or before shooting it again... __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke"

10-06-2009, 09:36 PM	#4
Dookiebutt Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: America's North Coast Posts: 2,042	What ammo were you using? __________________ The nerds will never understand the awesomeness of it.

10-06-2009, 10:11 PM	#6
rl69 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: brookeland tex Posts: 1,292 Images: 4	all i can say is sorry that was one nice looking rifle but like glock said get you a new stock have it looked at by a smith __________________ get your facts first and then you can distort them as much as you please IN GOD WE TRUST

10-06-2009, 10:25 PM	#7
texnmidwest Some People's kids.... Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 6,977	My best guess is that the dry air where you lived dried out the wood to where it were too brittle. Just my guess of course. I am very sad for you. BUT, the rifle should be OK and nothing seems to have happened that a new stock won't fix! __________________ never pass up a bathroom, never waste a ** , and never trust a fart.

10-06-2009, 08:09 PM	#2
killsnapz Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Norwalk CT Posts: 211	Man sorry for your bad luck. That stock looks like it was in nice shape too. I can only think of one thing that could cause that. There had to be a hairline crack in that stock. Possiblly the dry heat? You can still buy a new stock at least and get her back into shooting agian. Michael

10-06-2009, 10:10 PM	#5
M14man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FLA Posts: 1,162 Images: 10	If there was no split, separation, or primer rupture;that is the cartridge case looks normal, then I would say the stock was too dry from sitting years in that heat. You basically dried it out in a 'heat oven' over the years.

10-06-2009, 11:26 PM	#8
Ericc Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 20	What does the last cartridge casing look like? Did it eject? Is it intact? The answer to these questions will tell us what happened.

10-07-2009, 12:01 AM	#9
SightNSqueeze Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Intercoastal Sea Islands, SC, USA Posts: 2,725	If there isn't anything out of the ordinary with the moving parts, which is not obvious from the pics, and if the spent cases are O.K., then it must be a dry stock. There are plenty of newly made and like-new stocks out there. Just keep the stock hardware and get a new stock. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Was "Your" Voice Heard Today? NRA-ILA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

10-07-2009, 07:34 AM	#10
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,176	Need more info. What ammo, headstamp? Korean PS? What does the case look like? Any damage to rifle other than stock? Please post more pics

10-09-2009, 05:22 PM	#11
mdolson3 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3	Thanks for everyone's input, I appreciate it. I am going to have it checked out by a gunsmith, and then look into buying a gunsmith. Does anyone live in the PHX area and know a good gunsmith? Also, does anyone know where I can purchase M1 stocks? I would love to be able to get one close to the same shade of color. Can I pick out which stock I can buy? Thanks again

10-09-2009, 07:38 PM	#12
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,176	How about some info on the ammo you used

10-10-2009, 06:51 AM	#14
gbear-48 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 104	CMP sells newly made Garand stocks. www.thecmp.org Click on E-Store , then Parts , Commercial.