M1 Ball Ammo, NOT M2

christcorp · 10-14-2009, 12:17 PM

I came acrtoss 2 bandoleers of Frankford Arsenal 1928 M1 Ball 30 cal ammo. Originally designed for the 1903 springfield. It's in 5 round stripper clips. 2 clips to a pouch. 6 pouches to a bandoleer. Total of 60 rounds in each bandoleer. Just wondering if anyone has a suggestion for it's use or value if I was to sell it. With a 1928 date, I probably wouldn't shoot it. It's probably safe If I wanted to, (Corrosive doesn't bother me); but it seems more valuable to a collector than a shooter. Any thoughts????

killsnapz · 10-14-2009, 05:41 PM

If you are not a collector then I would sell it especially if you do not have a 1903 Springfield to go along with it. Just my opinion though. I have a box of 20 1944 dated M2 ammo that was given to me by the person I bought my Garand from. I have no intention of shooting it even though it is in perfect condition just because I am a collector of antiques and I like things like this.

Michael

christcorp · 10-14-2009, 09:05 PM

Definitely thinking about selling it. Might just wait around until the next gun show and see what it will bring. mike...

jason1965 · 10-14-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by christcorp

Definitely thinking about selling it. Might just wait around until the next gun show and see what it will bring. mike...

Check out this site,it will give you some idea of what your ammo might be worth:

http://www.popernack.com/shop/shop.php?aID=10&xID=63

LarBar · 10-14-2009, 11:31 PM

There must be somethin of us, that don't wanna shoot the old stuff!
Just like I dont like playin my old Beatles albums. Oh GOD dont bring me back there.

I have some old ammo just as albums. I cant figure why I dont shoot the both!
OK for you B fans, I was at disco demolition at Cominsky park. Down with Disco.

As for the ammo, I say shoot it or loose it. OH crap, Im one of us!
Anybody hear need some AP BEATLES

LarBar

christcorp · 10-16-2009, 11:48 AM

Well, based on the site's price of $175 for a bandoleer of 1928 peters. And $125 for a bandoleer of some 1927 WRA; I would say that my mint condition Bandoleer of 1928 Frankford Armory (WHICH DOES INCLUDE THE LOT NUMBER CARD); should be worth in the $150-$175 range.

Now, I guess I should see about advertising it. FWIW: If anyone on the Forums is interested, I consider the forums sort of like family. It would be a much better price than advertised. I might print the pages on the website, and bring them along to the next gun show. Might find a buyer there. But they sure do like to crank up the prices on what they sell. Not a big fan of the gun shows as a buyer.

Thanks again for all the info.

oldjarhead · 10-16-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by christcorp

Well, based on the site's price of $175 for a bandoleer of 1928 peters. And $125 for a bandoleer of some 1927 WRA; I would say that my mint condition Bandoleer of 1928 Frankford Armory (WHICH DOES INCLUDE THE LOT NUMBER CARD); should be worth in the $150-$175 range.
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I'd be a little leery about the prices quoted on that web-site. They are way overpriced on most of their items so using them as a value guide may be delusional.

christcorp · 10-16-2009, 01:06 PM

I wouldn't even think of going near those prices. But it's nice to know that it's worth more than say $30. I don't think I've ever sold anything at "Full" price in my life. To be honest, I'd probably look at about half that web site's price if the person was close enough not to have to ship it. If I take it to a gun show, I'll see what the highest is they'll offer. However, most gun shows are total rip offs. And hey; if worse comes to worse, the brass looks to be in excellent shape. This was stored very well. No corrosion or anything. It's been here in the DRY/Arid rocky mountain region for almost ever. If worse comes to worse, I can always shoot it.

GlennM · 10-16-2009, 04:40 PM

Interesting website... thanks for the link. Reminded me I have 2 old boxes of 10mm German rimfire (hand-wound wax crimp) from 188X that I need to dig out and list on gunbroker.

jason1965 · 10-16-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by oldjarhead

I'd be a little leery about the prices quoted on that web-site. They are way overpriced on most of their items so using them as a value guide may be delusional.

I think that their prices are just right.I have bought a lot from them,and the condition of their items is better than what you can see on the site.
Just remember the three C's of collecting: Condition,Condition,and of course,Condition.
They are great at shipping and customer service,and that goes a long way with me.

oldjarhead · 10-16-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by christcorp

I wouldn't even think of going near those prices. But it's nice to know that it's worth more than say $30. I don't think I've ever sold anything at "Full" price in my life. To be honest, I'd probably look at about half that web site's price if the person was close enough not to have to ship it. If I take it to a gun show, I'll see what the highest is they'll offer. However, most gun shows are total rip offs. And hey; if worse comes to worse, the brass looks to be in excellent shape. This was stored very well. No corrosion or anything. It's been here in the DRY/Arid rocky mountain region for almost ever. If worse comes to worse, I can always shoot it.

Why not Google ammunition collector and see if you can lash up with the real deal. You may even find a buyer.
I agree with you about gunshows being somewhat sketchy.

Although condition is important; it is not everything. I'll stand by my previous statement.

JimBob · 10-16-2009, 07:54 PM

A realistic price on your ammunition is in the $70 to $90 price range.Where collectible ammunition is concerned condition matters.The closer to mint the higher the price.Damaged packaging and corroded rounds are shunned by knowledgable cartridge collectors unless the rarity of the item makes it an exception.There is a lot of the U.S.bandoleered ammo out there.The ammo on Popernacks sight has been there awhile but their prices overall are pretty much inline with a lot of other online merchants.I have dealt with them and the material was as advertised and the service was honest.A vendor at a gun show isn't going to pay retail for something he is going to turn around and resell.He also may have to inventory it for months before he gets it sold.The last few shows I have been to there were more sellers walking around the floor than buyers.

GlennM · 10-18-2009, 03:17 AM

You're dead-on. I was offered $5 a box for the old German 10MM rimfire ammo at a gunshow by a dealer several yeas ago. One of the packages has NEVER been opened and is still in the original string-wrapped package. The other is full, but the string was cut and the top has been opened. Betcha next month's salary that it's worth more than $5 a container.

twinson · 11-11-2009, 01:03 PM

M1 ball was round nosed not SP.

Ben Hartley · 11-11-2009, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by twinson

M1 ball was round nosed not SP.

Um... no.

The original 1903 .30-caliber loading had a 220 grain RN bullet.

Standard .30-caliber model 1906: 150-grain flat base spitzer with MV of 2700 fps;
Caliber .30 ball cartrdge M1: 172-grain boattail sptizer with MV of 2640 fps;
Caliber .30 ball cartidge M1: 152-grain flat base spitzer with MV of 2805 fps.

source: Hatcher, Major General Julian S., Hatcher's Book of the Garand, pg. 125.

Ben Hartley

10-14-2009, 12:17 PM	#1
christcorp Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 37	M1 Ball Ammo, NOT M2 I came acrtoss 2 bandoleers of Frankford Arsenal 1928 M1 Ball 30 cal ammo. Originally designed for the 1903 springfield. It's in 5 round stripper clips. 2 clips to a pouch. 6 pouches to a bandoleer. Total of 60 rounds in each bandoleer. Just wondering if anyone has a suggestion for it's use or value if I was to sell it. With a 1928 date, I probably wouldn't shoot it. It's probably safe If I wanted to, (Corrosive doesn't bother me); but it seems more valuable to a collector than a shooter. Any thoughts????

10-16-2009, 04:40 PM	#9
GlennM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 356 Blog Entries: 1	Interesting website... thanks for the link. Reminded me I have 2 old boxes of 10mm German rimfire (hand-wound wax crimp) from 188X that I need to dig out and list on gunbroker. __________________ *The Cataclysm Scroll* is now available! www.gmillercompanies.com

10-18-2009, 03:17 AM	#13
GlennM Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 356 Blog Entries: 1	You're dead-on. I was offered $5 a box for the old German 10MM rimfire ammo at a gunshow by a dealer several yeas ago. One of the packages has NEVER been opened and is still in the original string-wrapped package. The other is full, but the string was cut and the top has been opened. Betcha next month's salary that it's worth more than $5 a container. __________________ *The Cataclysm Scroll* is now available! www.gmillercompanies.com

11-11-2009, 01:03 PM	#14
twinson Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 19	1903 M1 ball M1 ball was round nosed not SP.

10-14-2009, 05:41 PM	#2
killsnapz Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Norwalk CT Posts: 211	If you are not a collector then I would sell it especially if you do not have a 1903 Springfield to go along with it. Just my opinion though. I have a box of 20 1944 dated M2 ammo that was given to me by the person I bought my Garand from. I have no intention of shooting it even though it is in perfect condition just because I am a collector of antiques and I like things like this. Michael

10-14-2009, 09:05 PM	#3
christcorp Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 37	Definitely thinking about selling it. Might just wait around until the next gun show and see what it will bring. mike...

10-14-2009, 11:31 PM	#5
LarBar Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: northern IL Posts: 80	There must be somethin of us, that don't wanna shoot the old stuff! Just like I dont like playin my old Beatles albums. Oh GOD dont bring me back there. I have some old ammo just as albums. I cant figure why I dont shoot the both! OK for you B fans, I was at disco demolition at Cominsky park. Down with Disco. As for the ammo, I say shoot it or loose it. OH crap, Im one of us! Anybody hear need some AP BEATLES LarBar

10-16-2009, 11:48 AM	#6
christcorp Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 37	Well, based on the site's price of $175 for a bandoleer of 1928 peters. And $125 for a bandoleer of some 1927 WRA; I would say that my mint condition Bandoleer of 1928 Frankford Armory (WHICH DOES INCLUDE THE LOT NUMBER CARD); should be worth in the $150-$175 range. Now, I guess I should see about advertising it. FWIW: If anyone on the Forums is interested, I consider the forums sort of like family. It would be a much better price than advertised. I might print the pages on the website, and bring them along to the next gun show. Might find a buyer there. But they sure do like to crank up the prices on what they sell. Not a big fan of the gun shows as a buyer. Thanks again for all the info.

10-16-2009, 01:06 PM	#8
christcorp Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 37	I wouldn't even think of going near those prices. But it's nice to know that it's worth more than say $30. I don't think I've ever sold anything at "Full" price in my life. To be honest, I'd probably look at about half that web site's price if the person was close enough not to have to ship it. If I take it to a gun show, I'll see what the highest is they'll offer. However, most gun shows are total rip offs. And hey; if worse comes to worse, the brass looks to be in excellent shape. This was stored very well. No corrosion or anything. It's been here in the DRY/Arid rocky mountain region for almost ever. If worse comes to worse, I can always shoot it.

10-16-2009, 07:54 PM	#12
JimBob Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: East Central Illinois Posts: 725	A realistic price on your ammunition is in the $70 to $90 price range.Where collectible ammunition is concerned condition matters.The closer to mint the higher the price.Damaged packaging and corroded rounds are shunned by knowledgable cartridge collectors unless the rarity of the item makes it an exception.There is a lot of the U.S.bandoleered ammo out there.The ammo on Popernacks sight has been there awhile but their prices overall are pretty much inline with a lot of other online merchants.I have dealt with them and the material was as advertised and the service was honest.A vendor at a gun show isn't going to pay retail for something he is going to turn around and resell.He also may have to inventory it for months before he gets it sold.The last few shows I have been to there were more sellers walking around the floor than buyers.